Thread: All good demons go to... um... sequel? - Diablo 3 Announced.

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    Spoiler: latest screenshots

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichVR View Post
    How about this, I'm supposed to go on a cruise with the wife a week from Tuesday. But fuck that shit. I told her to get somebody else to go. I'm going to play Diablo 3 until my fingers bleed and my ass skin bonds with my office chair.
    Fuckin' A

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    Quote Originally Posted by amandachen View Post
    Spoiler: latest screenshots
    "The fire from the sky still falls."

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    So, how about them authenticators, huh?

    More seriously, I am glad the topic was broached as I hadn't heard about them previously and promptly signed up. You may now return to giddy anticipation mode.

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    Thanks for clarifying your source, Telefrog. I wasn't trying to cast doubt on your hacker warning when I asked you that, I just wanted to know how one becomes knowledgeable about the future plans of hackers.

    I was surprised to discover that the physical authenticators are only $6.50 when I was downloading the iOS version. How do the physical ones work? That's either really cheap for a physical device that calls home to grab a new authentication key as needed, or some part of Blizzard's security algorithms reside on that little thing's logic chip, just waiting to be cracked open. IMO. And not a very informed one, at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke M View Post
    Thanks for clarifying your source, Telefrog. I wasn't trying to cast doubt on your hacker warning when I asked you that, I just wanted to know how one becomes knowledgeable about the future plans of hackers.

    I was surprised to discover that the physical authenticators are only $6.50 when I was downloading the iOS version. How do the physical ones work? That's either really cheap for a physical device that calls home to grab a new authentication key as needed, or some part of Blizzard's security algorithms reside on that little thing's logic chip, just waiting to be cracked open. IMO. And not a very informed one, at that.
    The device doesn't call home. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SecurID

    The system is essentially uncrackable unless you lose your token (obvious) or RSA servers are compromised and leaks the seeds (which actually happened once in 2011 due to poor security on their part). Presumably that's been rectified by now.

    Also, I'm excited. I actually bought a new desktop computer for this, and I haven't used a desktop seriously since 2003.
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    All I know is that I am going to be fucking miserable at work on Wednesday. Why? Because I'm going to be up to who knows what time playing Diablo 3 the night before! No hell, no way, am I missing the lifting of the gates at 3 a.m. Not after an 11-year wait. Not after the original Diablo sucked me into the world of MMO gaming like a whirlwind, letting me actually dungeon crawl with friends, and changed my gaming life forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nomaar View Post
    All I know is that I am going to be fucking miserable at work on Wednesday. Why? Because I'm going to be up to who knows what time playing Diablo 3 the night before! No hell, no way, am I missing the lifting of the gates at 3 a.m. Not after an 11-year wait. Not after the original Diablo sucked me into the world of MMO gaming like a whirlwind, letting me actually dungeon crawl with friends, and changed my gaming life forever.
    I had that same thought. My solution was to take off Wednesday as well. ;)

    Of course, now Thursday is the day I'm going to be hurting back at the office...

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    Yeah - so it goes live at 7pm for me. And I have the rest of the week off and the kids have been despatched off to their mother.

    Thats commitment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armando Penblade View Post
    How about this?

    If I can play a melee wizard, even if it's fuck-all awful, the game is great. Otherwise, it's at best good :)
    Check out this video, especially around 10:55 where they talk about builds for a petless witch doctor and a melee sorc for character building options.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzhoG...eature=related

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    When I tried the installer just now it downloaded a bunch of updated setup files.

    The fire still falls, though. :-(

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    Why Wedesday? Doesn't it launch at 12:01am PDT on Tuesday the 15th?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phred View Post
    Check out this video, especially around 10:55 where they talk about builds for a petless witch doctor and a melee sorc for character building options.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzhoG...eature=related
    AFAIK, the removal of the ability to re-select "Basic Attack" after putting another ability in its place effectively removes melee Wizard and Demon Hunter builds from the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pogo View Post
    Why Wedesday? Doesn't it launch at 12:01am PDT on Tuesday the 15th?
    Yeah, it does. I got my days mixed up -- I will be a zombie at work on Tuesday:(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armando Penblade View Post
    AFAIK, the removal of the ability to re-select "Basic Attack" after putting another ability in its place effectively removes melee Wizard and Demon Hunter builds from the game.
    http://us.battle.net/d3/en/class/wiz...spectral-blade
    http://us.battle.net/d3/en/class/wiz...e/magic-weapon

    I believe you're right about demon hunters.

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    The spectral weapon is a ranged attack. While Magic Weapon does imbue your weapon with extra damage and properties, since other skills are based upon weapon damage, I think it's now being treated as a sort of re-activatable buff to other skills. Since replacing your attack command with any other skill removes your access to it permanently, there isn't really any way to just hit stuff with your sword/dagger/teddy bear past the early game. I am particularly confident on this because you can't even bind the Magic Weapon skill to a mouse button in the skill calculator.

    AKA, "true" melee wizard is also dead, although you can still theoretically load up on defensive enchantments, walk into a crowd of monsters, and start spamming Frost Nova.

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    Edit: Edited to note that you can force melee attacks by spending all of our mana and attempting to cast a spell that costs some, so I suppose melee wizards could just lob un-optimized spells till they're out of mana and just hold down the button to keep swinging while mana regens? I dunno, just seems like a really silly omission that wouldn't require a lot of work on their part to correct. Just put "Basic Attack" back into the list of selectables, at least in Manual mode.

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    I thought you could select the basic attack by turning on the advanced mode or whatever the option was that let you put any skill in any slot.

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    Yes, but to do it you have to assign the LMB skill to the RMB, and the LMB skill instead of being left empty will default back to melee attack.

    If you want weapons to matter go play Torchlight 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armando Penblade View Post
    The spectral weapon is a ranged attack.
    Spectral Blade hits an arc in front of you. It's range is about the same as the Barbarians Cleave. I'll grant that you aren't swinging a blade though. There are a few melee range-attacks, but swinging a weapon through the game isn't practical for the wizard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichVR View Post
    How about this, I'm supposed to go on a cruise with the wife a week from Tuesday. But fuck that shit. I told her to get somebody else to go. I'm going to play Diablo 3 until my fingers bleed and my ass skin bonds with my office chair.
    I'll go with her. Where to?

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    Right. Spectral blade is not a ranged attack.

    What are you talking about? Weapons matter bigtime in D3. Every skill's damage is based upon your weapon.

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    Were melee wizards really just spamming basic attack? I thought they always focused heavily on using spectral blade, along with other point blank abilities and defensive buffs?

    Something like this.

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    I'm still trying to figure out why you'd ever want to swing a weapon in a game when you have up to 6 slots that can use any combination of 125 skills, personally.

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    Obviously because skills are boring.

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    I think Armando is a closet Barbarian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stusser View Post
    Right. Spectral blade is not a ranged attack.

    What are you talking about? Weapons matter bigtime in D3. Every skill's damage is based upon your weapon.
    No, they're a stat stick.

    When people say they want melee weapons, they like the theme that goes along with certain weapons, including animations, attack speeds, and sounds.

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    Nah. The javazon was the most famous D2 wacko build, and it used charged strike for single-targets and lightning fury for multiples. Neither one used the javelin's animation, attack speed, or sound.

    The javazon was interesting because it was a competitive amazon build in melee range, not because everybody loved the javelin's weapon animations.

    Similarly, the melee sorceress used the dream runeword for passive holy shock aura, that worked with lightning mastery to zap anything that got in melee range, in combination with the passion runeword, which granted the paladin's zeal. It wasn't about the weapon the sorceress was using, although at least the melee sorceress swung her weapons, so you could see the animations happen.
    Last edited by stusser; 05-13-2012 at 09:24 PM.

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    No reviews until release?

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    Yup, much like Starcraft II they're not giving early copies or early access to anyone

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