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    Why aren't we talking about China?

    Massive disaster over there. Nearly 10k thought to be dead, many more injured. I'm surprised it isn't a topic yet.

    How does relief work to China? Do they open the borders for full international assistance, accept donations? I'm honestly not sure, but it sure sounds like they could use some help.

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    And, what, Myanmar is just shit outta luck when it comes to discussions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Sharp View Post
    How does relief work to China? Do they open the borders for full international assistance, accept donations? I'm honestly not sure, but it sure sounds like they could use some help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Sharp View Post
    Massive disaster over there. Nearly 10k thought to be dead, many more injured. I'm surprised it isn't a topic yet.

    How does relief work to China? Do they open the borders for full international assistance, accept donations? I'm honestly not sure, but it sure sounds like they could use some help.
    China generally handles such things internally, like the US does. I suppose they may accept some help, but the news reports I've read say the area affected is already closed off by the authorities, limiting media access.

    Also, Myanmar is a bigger disaster, at least based on what we know right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeon221 View Post
    And, what, Myanmar is just shit outta luck when it comes to discussions?
    Nope. Start a thread on it, too. Usually we have a thread for every major disaster of this sort, or even smaller local ones, if they affect people on the board.

    But mainly I was curious about China's policies on these things, since they do tend to handle things internally.

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    Considering the Bush Administration's response to Hurricane Katrina, maybe we should revise our policies on accepting foreign aid in times of natural disasters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt View Post
    Considering the Bush Administration's response to Hurricane Katrina, maybe we should revise our policies on accepting foreign aid in times of natural disasters.
    So, let me get this straight: your contribution to a thread about the earthquake in China is to turn this into a political debate about a completely different disaster, even though this thread wasn't created in P&R?

    Way to live up to your reputation, Dirt.

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    My point is that all nations need to do their best for their citizens. Barring their ability to do so, they should allow others to help. China needs help. America also needs help in these situations. It's only the arrogance of the people in charge that prevents these things from happening. A pox on both those houses. And a damnation on those who rule Myanmar.

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    Okay, Mercutio. Aren't you supposed to die now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt View Post
    Considering the Bush Administration's response to Hurricane Katrina, maybe we should revise our policies on accepting foreign aid in times of natural disasters.
    Haha yeah, Russia. Wait what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarkus View Post
    So, let me get this straight: your contribution to a thread about the earthquake in China is to turn this into a political debate about a completely different disaster, even though this thread wasn't created in P&R?

    Way to live up to your reputation, Dirt.
    Are you kidding? Do I not rate a troll message for being the first to pop in with a whiny post about a disaster in another nation? What are you, racist?! Geez, you people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeon221 View Post
    Are you kidding? Do I not rate a troll message for being the first to pop in with a whiny post about a disaster in another nation? What are you, racist?! Geez, you people.
    Sorry Aeon, I completely missed your trolling.

    :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarkus View Post
    Sorry Aeon, I completely missed your trolling.

    :-)
    I hate smilies. They make me angry. AND I LIKE PIE WHEN I'M ANGRY!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeon221 View Post
    I hate smilies. They make me angry. AND I LIKE PIE WHEN I'M ANGRY!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt View Post
    Considering the Bush Administration's response to Hurricane Katrina, maybe we should revise our policies on accepting foreign aid in times of natural disasters.
    See Robert, this is why no one was talking about China.

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    All those... foreigners over there in Not America make real Americans nervous. If a bunch of them die in disasters and what-not, all the better. But it's not polite to notice it happening.



    This post brought to you by Citizens For A God-Fearing America, and your local council of bigots.

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    holy christ, that is ridiculous. What a horrible horrible tragedy.

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    Shit happens! It's a lot better than the last major earthquake in china, the Tangshan one, that's like a quarter million dead in a city of a million.

    I sent money, but not much I can do.

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    Where did you send money, idrisz? You mean to China? How does one send money to China? To whom did you actually send it?

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    WoW gold farmers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Sharp View Post
    Where did you send money, idrisz? You mean to China? How does one send money to China? To whom did you actually send it?
    www.redcross.org.cn, I can read chinese, I have accounts in China, I send via RMB around $100.

    Yes I'm poor.

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    Five-star ratings! Or quake/don't quake.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jon_Danger View Post
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    I see earthquakes are still stuck in the 7-9 scale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unicorn McGriddle View Post
    I see earthquakes are still stuck in the 7-9 scale.
    That's a good LOL for a disaster thread. Not many people could pull that off.

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    Thank god. I've had about my fill of Humorless Lesbian threads for the week, and it's only Tuesday.

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    This is a pretty big disaster. I wonder if it might expose some of the corruption on Chinese government: globeandmail article.

    The death toll in Monday's earthquake in Sichuan province is still soaring. More than 40,000 people are dead, missing or buried in the rubble, according to the latest count. And with dangerous cracks appearing in several hydro dams and reservoirs around the earthquake zone, another disaster could be looming.
    The man, who gave his surname as Ren, is a 32-year-old steel worker who has worked for a decade in the local construction industry. He said he always knew that the Juyuan school was a disaster in waiting. Local officials, he said, had pocketed money that was budgeted for the school, while a private construction company had saved money by cutting corners on the project.

    After the temblor, when he picked up a chunk of concrete from the flattened school, he was appalled by the evidence of shoddy construction. "It crumbled very easily," he said.

    To boost its profits, the company used iron instead of steel in many parts of the construction of the building, Mr. Ren said. It cut back on the size and number of steel braces in the cement foundation slabs. And it used cheap materials to make the concrete walls, weakening the entire structure.
    Several hundred students died in the collapse of Juyuan school on Monday.
    This is not at all an isolated case.

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    There's also an accountability problem. Who is going to report this, and to whom? The government over there has faced charges of corruption at all levels. I have no idea how valid those charges are, but if they are correct, this isn't a solvable problem, really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Sharp View Post
    There's also an accountability problem. Who is going to report this, and to whom? The government over there has faced charges of corruption at all levels. I have no idea how valid those charges are, but if they are correct, this isn't a solvable problem, really.
    Yeah, my initial reaction was that if this guy knew all these buildings were unsafe, he should report it. Then I remembered the story about the guy who raised a stink about industrial pollution in a major lake and was hauled off to prison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unicorn McGriddle View Post
    I see earthquakes are still stuck in the 7-9 scale.
    apparently the following aftershocks were all around 4.5

    what is that ziff davis? a C- ?

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    Unpaid opinions are so mean!

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    China has begun accepting assistance from Japan, Russia and Taiwan. This along with the horrible winter this past year and I think the Commies are losing their mandate from heaven.

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