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    Another win for the war on drugs

    http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/m...0fugitive.html

    Don't we have higher priorities than locking up people who would be housewives if not for this lame prohibition?

    In other news the US appears to have a harsh senseless drug policy in comparison to our enlightened European neighbors.

    http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English...1.0.2085984437

    Oh wait those aren't our European neighbors, those are our evil terrorist enemies.

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    ...I think I saw her somewhere. >.<

    I'm personally all for using it only to lock up people who pose a threat to society that you can't get on other charges. But I can understand locking her up again because she fled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VictoriaWong View Post
    ...I think I saw her somewhere. >.<

    I'm personally all for using it only to lock up people who pose a threat to society that you can't get on other charges. But I can understand locking her up again because she fled.
    Prison is to keep unsafe people out of the population and sometimes rehabilitation. She was not a danger. This is a waste of money.

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    I'm going to guess its a somewhat of a red herring of death. With Iran's strict laws and Islamic watch... it's probably a great way for the government and fanatical Clerics to crack down on those affiliated with illicit behavior.

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    "She escaped by walking away early the morning of Feb. 26, 1976, using a pass that allowed her to work at a clinic, Marlan said. Around 7:30 a.m., an hour after she left the prison grounds, the clinic called and said she did not show up for work."

    This seems a little contradictory:
    "Marlan said it was not uncommon for the prisoners at the minimum security prison to be allowed to walk outside to go to a job or to do work on the grounds.

    Lefevre was on the Michigan Department of Corrections' most wanted list and was considered dangerous and possibly armed."

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    Insane.

    She is now the poster child for the insanity of our drug laws.

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    Setting aside that she obviously was able to rehabilitate herself for a moment, she was convicted of being a drug dealer. And not for pot either, heroin. I don't think many of you would defend a heroin dealer arrested today.

    That said, she clearly isn't a problem and some sort of deal needs to be struck in these circumstances. I don't have a problem with her sentence being adjusted or her receiving a pardon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rimbo View Post
    Insane.

    She is now the poster child for the insanity of our drug laws.
    Why? What's insane about imprisoning a significant drug dealer as the police say she was?

    This has little to do with her crime and more to do with the fact that she apparently successfully rehabilitated herself after escaping and how the law doesn't recognize that to perhaps the extent it should.

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    Meanwhile, our dumbfuck law enforcement agencies and pharmaceutical company lobbying fronts (and by the latter, I mean doctor's groups) continue to throw up lameass reasons for continuing to support a ban on medical marijuana.

    http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll...=2008804290377

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheriff Mike Bouchard
    This is the only nose under the tent that has resonance with citizens because everyone wants to help relieve the pain and suffering of individuals, including those of us in law enforcement. But this is a guise to advance the process of legalization.
    Blow me, Mikey. LEAP has found their way out from under the prohibitionist brainwashing you law enforcement drones suffer beneath, wake up and smell reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stupid former Dr
    The ballot proposal is unnecessary because we already have legal medical marijuana in pill form.
    Yes, because an anti-nausea pill that requires you INGEST IT is a great idea. And because THC is the ONLY ingredient in marijuana which contributes to its medicinal qualities.

    Almost everyone who's taken Marinol and smoked marijuana can testify that the former is not remotely as effective as the latter, despite all the supposed superiority of a lab-developed chemical derivitive compared to what's merely a common weed. And yet the efficacy of the common weed is espoused by everyone who's not in the pockets of big pharma or deluded by the criminal-industrial complex.

    Humm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machfive View Post
    Yes, because an anti-nausea pill that requires you INGEST IT is a great idea. And because THC is the ONLY ingredient in marijuana which contributes to its medicinal qualities.

    Almost everyone who's taken Marinol and smoked marijuana can testify that the former is not remotely as effective as the latter, despite all the supposed superiority of a lab-developed chemical derivitive compared to what's merely a common weed. And yet the efficacy of the common weed is espoused by everyone who's not in the pockets of big pharma or deluded by the criminal-industrial complex.

    Humm.
    Don't they have a suppository form of it? I have both oral and anal versions (yeesh that sounds gross) of my anti-nausea meds based on whether I'm about to vomit or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grifman View Post
    Why? What's insane about imprisoning a significant drug dealer as the police say she was?
    Well, if you think drugs should be legal in the first place... everything.

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    Off topic, I know.

    Quote Originally Posted by Machfive View Post
    Yes, because an anti-nausea pill that requires you INGEST IT is a great idea. And because THC is the ONLY ingredient in marijuana which contributes to its medicinal qualities.
    My friend has suffered from Hyperemesis for six months of her pregnancy and smokes marajauna to keep food down and nausea away. I honestly don't know what this does to the baby, but from what she told me the stress from Hyperemesis is worse for a fetus than smoking...


    Quote Originally Posted by jpinard View Post
    Don't they have a suppository form of it? I have both oral and anal versions (yeesh that sounds gross) of my anti-nausea meds based on whether I'm about to vomit or not.
    I didn't know they offered a suppository form of any anti-nausea medicine. My friend pointed out the problem of ingesting pills to keep down food when she couldn't even keep the pills down. Prior to smoking during pregnancy she spent a night in the hospital about every three days.


    As far as this woman being put away I am torn. I do not agree with heroine use or its sale. A few of my high school classmates have been struggling with opiates for the past 10 years, since we graduated. I only see these classmates once in a while when at the store, but their addiction has certainly ruined promising futures. Mrs. Walsh sold a horrible drug and should pay a debt to society. Considering that she appears to be rehabilitated, probation and court ordered community service might be a more fitting punishment....That is, unless she still sells/uses drugs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarkus View Post
    I don't think many of you would defend a heroin dealer arrested today.
    I would, do you know one? Give them my card.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flowers View Post
    I would, do you know one? Give them my card.
    Don't you have an ambulance to chase or something?

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    If the USA were ever to legalize marijuana, the gang fight in Tijuana last week will look like a skirmish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt View Post
    If the USA were ever to legalize marijuana, the gang fight in Tijuana last week will look like a skirmish.
    I beg to differ. While the government tends to blame Mexico for importing a lot of Marijuana, Canada and US residents do produce a lot on their own. Forbes ran a good article call Inside Dope a few years back and my favorite is this story. Also don't the gangs in Mexico grow in the US?

    I highly doubt we will see an end to the prohibition of marijuana, but we may see the decriminalization(issuing fines like in Vermont), or even a more wide spread medical marijuana.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpinard View Post
    Don't they have a suppository form of it? I have both oral and anal versions (yeesh that sounds gross) of my anti-nausea meds based on whether I'm about to vomit or not.
    Yes it does. No offense. I freak out when anything or anyone gets within a couple of inches of the ole nether eye. Props to you for, uh, having the stones to go where this man would never go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BostonBum0 View Post
    I beg to differ. While the government tends to blame Mexico for importing a lot of Marijuana, Canada and US residents do produce a lot on their own. Forbes ran a good article call Inside Dope a few years back and my favorite is this story. Also don't the gangs in Mexico grow in the US?

    I highly doubt we will see an end to the prohibition of marijuana, but we may see the decriminalization(issuing fines like in Vermont), or even a more wide spread medical marijuana.
    Yeah, you're right. There have been quite a few high profile bust of people who buy houses solely for the purpose of growing a house full of marijuana plants in Rowland Heights, CA. Interestingly, they're all Chinese or Koreans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brendan View Post
    Don't you have an ambulance to chase or something?
    Nope, I wait at the hospital, they come to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flowers View Post
    Nope, I wait at the hospital, they come to me.
    Do you like to imagine, as you wait at the hospital, that the ambulance siren is actually a high pitched woman endlessly intoning your name?

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    Personally, I'm fine with throwing ex-heroin dealers back in jail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeon221 View Post
    Yes it does. No offense. I freak out when anything or anyone gets within a couple of inches of the ole nether eye. Props to you for, uh, having the stones to go where this man would never go.
    heh, when you're that sick, you'd be surprised what measures you'd take. Phenergan is the anti-nausea I take. It comes in IV, Pill, and Suppository form and works extremely well.

    BostonBum0 - be interesting to know if that woman really checked out all her options before jumping on the Marijuana bandwagon.

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    It's not just about anti-nausea though. Not only does marijuana reduce or eliminate nausea, it has the side effect of increasing appetite. None of the other drugs out there can claim that they can make you WANT to eat.

    Eliminating nausea is not the same thing as making food look desirable after you've spent the last few days puking in a toilet.

    That makes marijuana a fucking miracle drug, and it's a fucking joke that our government and our medical industry doesn't give it some serious fucking respect.

    And let it be said for the record that I have smoked weed no more than FOUR times in my entire life, and the last time was over 6 or 7 years ago. In case anyone would like to try and mitigate the argument by claiming I'm some pothead trying to legalize pot for my own benefit.

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