Reply With QuoteI'm so glad i got mine when they were first introduced for 219Originally Posted by Kunikos
Newegg's got 'em, but only OEM (heatsink/fan not included, limited warranty) so far.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115040
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 Yorkfield 2.5GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor
$299
Also, apparently Core 2 Duo E8400 should be back in stock by next month (but probably still inflated price).
(News from Techreport)
I'm so glad i got mine when they were first introduced for 219
wootage I've got one of these guys on the way. :D
Dang it I just got my system all in place now after I was debating between the E8400 (which I went with) and the Q6600 and these just came out. Sheesh.
I hate computers.
--- Alan
q9450
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...5039&Tpk=q9450
$380 ouch kind of pricey
somehow I don't think it's $180 performance wise better than a q6600. I think I'll wait until prices and supply stabilize a bit.
^^
Just six days ago I bought a new motherboard, 4GB of RAM, and a quad core 2.4GHz Q6600. Now this comes out. :(
Oh well, I shouldn't need another upgrade for at least a few years...and then I'll most likely pull the trigger yet again mere days before something better is released. I guess that's the norm with PC hardware; there's always something better coming just around the corner.
Hey, that's the perfect PC to hop into WoW with, March!
I think I mentioned in the other thread that I was trying to put together a new system. I like the specs on these new quad cores (especially the Q9450), but every time I start adding things up, I can't help but think "I could buy a PS3 for this price." It doesn't help that I would like to get the 790i or X48 chipset and the only Mobos with that are around $360-400 CDN right now
Heh...I actually just cancelled my WoW subscription last weekend. I haven't logged in for any period longer than 15 minutes or so since September, so I had essentially given Blizzard USD$90 for nothing. :(Hey, that's the perfect PC to hop into WoW with, March!
Sometimes I get the urge to play again, but I don't think I could ever again commit the time to raid for 4-5 hours, five nights per week, not to mention most of the old gang have moved on. About the only thing that would get me to resub at this point is a MGIF reunion when the next xpac is released. You interested?
After GST, I paid just over $500 for my new CPU, mobo, and RAM, but I'm running an older P35 chipset. Did you file your taxes yet? I can't think of a better way to spend your refund. :)I think I mentioned in the other thread that I was trying to put together a new system. I like the specs on these new quad cores (especially the Q9450), but every time I start adding things up, I can't help but think "I could buy a PS3 for this price." It doesn't help that I would like to get the 790i or X48 chipset and the only Mobos with that are around $360-400 CDN right now
Actually I bought my E8400 for $260 at mwave last week and it's $60 cheaper today at Newegg. That blows even more.
I know the PC hardware upgrade thing very well, but come on, it's only been a week!
BTW, I got the rest of my upgrade from Newegg and they were awesome about it. I got a discount for complaining their shipping process was taking too long (that's another story, I'm a long-term Newegg user), and got free shipping because it took a day longer than it should have when it finally went out.
--- Alan
Hell yes! Actually, I'm thinking of resubbing right now with the 2.4 patch (and tormenting former guildies about it). I don't think I would be getting back into raiding, I just don't have the time anymore. But I'm thinking (probably incorrectly) that I could just play a little PvP and do some heroics a couple of nights a week.
My own account was cancelled in November, but thanks to the billing plan I chose, I only just stopped paying them in February.
I definitely could save a ton of cash going for a P35 chipset and not having to deal with DDR3 prices. In fact, I should know better than to go for a high end build after doing this for so long as I always feel like an ass when the prices drop a couple of months later.After GST, I paid just over $500 for my new CPU, mobo, and RAM, but I'm running an older P35 chipset. Did you file your taxes yet? I can't think of a better way to spend your refund. :)
If it makes you feel any better I overclock my Q6600 to 3.4ghz and beyond with a watercooling setup and it makes fuck all difference in just about every game, including Crysis.
In almost every case the 8800U is the limiting factor. I doubt the penryn at 2.4ghz is going to touch the old version at 3.4ghz so really, you are not missing much if anything. Unless you want to overclock, but I can't see much reason to do that currently. Maybe the next generation video card?
I just reclocked my Q6600 to 2.4ghz from 3.4ghz for the same reason recently. The extra 1ghz made very little difference in many instances except where I was already getting a very high framerate.
CPU cache is expensive... that extra 6MB of L2 cache (total of 12MB) is at the same clock-speed as the CPU itself. :)
I'd like to see the benchmarks, obviously, but I think it's well worth it.
Are there no Q9450 benchmarks out yet?
I haven't found any yet. :(
Keep your eyes peeled, noble Qt3ians!!! I crave Q9450 benchmarks since I want to build a Q9xxx system only a couple of weeks from now and I need to know whether it's Q9300 or Q9450 FTW.
Why the fuck AREN'T there any benchmarks out yet anyway?
And don't go telling me how much faster dual-core is right now. I know all that. But I crave that sweet 45nm goodness.
Dual core is now 45nm goodness too you know :)
--- Alan
Like Alan said, the E8x00 line (Wolfdale) is on the 45nm/SSE4 core (Penryn), much like the Q9xx0 line (Yorkfield).
RepoMan, if you're on a tight budget go with the Q9300, but otherwise I'd recommend the Q9450 due to the added 6MB of L2 cache. The only difference between the Q9550 and the Q9450 is 200 MHz (and $200), which is an easy air overclock.
I want benchmarks before I go with the Q9450. Plus it seems like a paper/vapor launch anyhow, at the moment.
The X3350s seem to be available, which is the Xeon version of the Q9450 if I understand it correctly.
I should have benchmarks comparing Q9300, Phenom X4 9850 and Wolfdale E8500 next week. The E8500 is actually faster in most stuff than the Q9300. Part of the problem is that the Q9300 only has half the cache of the Q9450 (eg, each core has only 3MB of L2, not 6MB).
This does seem to adversely affect performance. Even some theraded stuff seems to run slower. Of course, a 500MHz clock speed advantage also has an effect.
How about the Q9450? Competitive with the E8500 at the single-core-performance level?
I can wait for your benchmarks, but only if you post the link here :-)
(And check your PM's!)
review on q9300
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu...uad-q9300.html
Too bad they didn't oc the q6600 to stock q9300 speeds and then compared benchmarks. That way I could tell how much speed increase is due to core optimizations vs just higher stock clock speeds.
Is it even worth asking about how that Phenom chip compares?
I keep hoping that AMD is just going to step up and knock one out of the park, but I don't suppose it will be happening any time soon.
Phenom is the kid riding the short-bus.
Sure seems like it.
I was looking at pricing a new PC at CyberPower and saw that the E6850 is more expensive than the E8400 even though the latter seemed to my uninformed eyes to be better (both were 3.0 ghz and 1333 fsb, but the 8400 had 6mb of l2 cache against 4mb for the 6850). Is this an anomaly or is there some reason that the E6850 is better?
No, the 8400 is better. Penryn is actually slightly faster at the same clock speed than the older Conroe. What you see is an artifact of Intel's pricing (trying to push people to the newer stuff.)
q9450 oem for about $306 shipped:
http://www.microcenter.com/add_produ...UE&488940=TRUE
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