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    Tonight's first scene brought me to a highly unusual state where all I could do was stare at the screen, quite literally unable to think of anything except the words "what the fuck?" over and over, until the camera pans into the drawing on the wall, and at that moment all my confusion was wiped away, replaced by the most chilling and foreboding dread I have ever experienced as a result of a mere dramatic presentation.

    ... just me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackstar View Post
    ... just me?
    Nope. That scene is going down in history as fucking legendary.

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    WTF definitely followed by oh this is the dream of the season, and then the ah ok moment. Although it didn't have huge emotional impact on me. The chatting kid noticing their cool boots that filled me with dread.

    The biggest dread for me is my fear that this is the show's last season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strollen View Post
    WTF definitely followed by oh this is the dream of the season, and then the ah ok moment. Although it didn't have huge emotional impact on me. The chatting kid noticing their cool boots that filled me with dread.

    The biggest dread for me is my fear that this is the show's last season.
    I don't want to say it here due to people possibly considering it a spoiler but how many seasons it's supposed to be is no secret.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nawid A View Post
    I don't want to say it here due to people possibly considering it a spoiler but how many seasons it's supposed to be is no secret.
    I hadn't heard this at all and it took some strong Google-Fu to find any article which even remotely touches on this: http://www.tvsquad.com/2010/03/17/vi...-season-three/

    Not sure if this is what you're referring to but it seems to me that the planned length of the show is not something that we as the audience should be overly concerned about. Although the point about how Breaking Bad is a kind of show that cannot go on forever and must have a planned end, is interesting.

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    What was up with the !@#$ing crawling? !@#4ing creepy ass !@#$-!@#$ing show!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunch of Kong View Post
    What was up with the !@#$ing crawling? !@#4ing creepy ass !@#$-!@#$ing show!!!
    As soon as I saw the crawling, I knew it had to be a pilgrimage to some sort of religious site. There are pilgrimages historically and contemporary where the pilgrims prostrate themselves and crawl on the ground.

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    What a crazy fucking episode. I need to watch it again to see if I caught every reference there was.


    SPOILER!













    For someone with a better memory than I; what was painted on the wall at the end of the episode? I'm trying to rack my brain thinking of it, but can't quite remember.

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    BTW: I wonder if the one airplane being from Utah is a reference to Aaron Paul finally leaving Big Love as a recurring character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athryn View Post
    As soon as I saw the crawling, I knew it had to be a pilgrimage to some sort of religious site. There are pilgrimages historically and contemporary where the pilgrims prostrate themselves and crawl on the ground.
    I am sorry you missed out on the experience I had--I eventually figured the same thing, but my knowledge of such things is strictly intellectual, and not at all cultural, so for the duration of the scene I felt like I had been unknowingly dosed with a large amount of acid. It's not very unusual for me to experience a very strong emotional response to a TV show, but what was unusual here is that it impacted me exceptionally quickly, without any build-up before hand for me to figure out what was going on fast enough.

    Note that I consider "felt like I had been unknowingly dosed with a large amount of acid" to be a huge compliment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon G Sides View Post
    What a crazy fucking episode. I need to watch it again to see if I caught every reference there was.
    The entire first episode of the third season is up at the AMC site.

    http://www.amctv.com/videos/breaking...id=72293876001

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    The crawling apparently is done by sects that worship Santa Meurte, and is popular with people in drug cartels and other underworld activities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackstar View Post
    I hadn't heard this at all and it took some strong Google-Fu to find any article which even remotely touches on this: http://www.tvsquad.com/2010/03/17/vi...-season-three/

    Not sure if this is what you're referring to but it seems to me that the planned length of the show is not something that we as the audience should be overly concerned about. Although the point about how Breaking Bad is a kind of show that cannot go on forever and must have a planned end, is interesting.
    Breaking Bad is a four-season show. This was stated after the S2 finale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackstar View Post
    I hadn't heard this at all and it took some strong Google-Fu to find any article which even remotely touches on this: http://www.tvsquad.com/2010/03/17/vi...-season-three/

    Not sure if this is what you're referring to but it seems to me that the planned length of the show is not something that we as the audience should be overly concerned about. Although the point about how Breaking Bad is a kind of show that cannot go on forever and must have a planned end, is interesting.
    Thanks for finding that, I was under the impression that this was the final season. (It can't go forever realistically) So hearing that there is one or two more possible seasons is terrific news.

    Loved this quote
    Well, I just, you know, I still, it sounds corny. It sounds like, you know, honest to God, I cannot believe our show is even on the air. I mean, it is so out there and it's so dark, and it's a show about a guy dying of cancer who's cooking crystal meth. I mean, you know, I cannot believe we're even on the air.
    I could see this show on HBO, but on basic cable and AMC, it is just unbelievable.

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    First episode of the third season, and the first one I finally got to watch in glorious hi-def! It had a whacky start, a violent ending and the usual messed up middle. It was great :)

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    I really liked how they used an orange filter whenever the Cousins were on screen. It made the whole world look eerie and alien.

    There's a TV critic for the SF Chronicle that does a breakdown of the show after every episode. He does some really great analysis, if anyone cares to read it. Link is here. I always like to read them after watching because some of his insights make things even cooler. He also has an interview with Vince Gilligan on this season.

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    The eyeball is so creepy. I can just imagine it screaming "J'accuse! J'accuse!" with no mouth.

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    2nd episode is just as great as the first, albeit without the surreal opening, but the final scene had me on the edge of my seat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabroni View Post
    Hahahaha, the pizza scene had me rolling. Awesome stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athryn View Post
    Hahahaha, the pizza scene had me rolling. Awesome stuff.
    Plus the shot the next morning, with the cheese/topping slid halfway down the pizza.

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    Hah, I watched it several times with instant replay myself.

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    I'm dying to find out who those two guys are working for and just how Fast Food Manager Guy managed to work that magic. This show always asks more questions than it answers. :(

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    I can't help but feel jerked around by that "resolution". Mysterious message from character supposedly unrelated to the situation averts violent showdown? What is this, Lost?

    BTW, I love the third comment someone left on my Breaking Bad gamespotting.

    -Tom

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    Gus is a big player, based in the U.S. Naturally, he's in contact with everyone else in the cartel scene, which isn't entirely plausible, but it's a dramatic presentation, so I'm cool with it. Obviously he can't be on the phone to Mexican Home Base all the time, so he was surprised to discover that one of his associates has a grudge against Walter, but he's powerful enough that he can put the word out and say, "This gringo is mine."

    The obvious upcoming conflict is that Walter is now forced to cook for Gus, or else Gus will have no reason to keep him alive.

    Arguably these are spoilers, but I think the situation is pretty clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomChick View Post
    Mysterious message from character supposedly unrelated to the situation
    But, Tom... Gus and the two hitmen are all brown people. Don't you see it?

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    Yeah, that makes sense, but I preferred the idea that Giancarlo Esposito was just a business-oriented drug dealer rather than a bona fide uber-connected mafioso bad-ass.

    Also, I'm bummed at what a fake-out it was that the two hit men with no lines go so deeply undercover that they have to get rid of their clothes, but they're somehow still able to be reached by cell phone. Whatever, Breaking Bad.

    -Tom

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomChick View Post
    Yeah, that makes sense, but I preferred the idea that Giancarlo Esposito was just a business-oriented drug dealer rather than a bona fide uber-connected mafioso bad-ass.
    The way he handles the deal with Walt indicates that Gus is crazy-connected. He's not just a guy who runs a chicken business and dabbles in dope on the side. That was always apparent to me from the minute the character showed up, and it's reasonable that would not be immediately apparent to the average viewer.

    Also, I'm bummed at what a fake-out it was that the two hit men with no lines go so deeply undercover that they have to get rid of their clothes, but they're somehow still able to be reached by cell phone. Whatever, Breaking Bad.
    Totally okay with this as well. For whatever reason, their insertion into the country had to be untraceable. Obviously that was primarily for dramatic effect, but I'm okay with that. However, once they are in-country and clear of the border, they can link up with their accomplices and get a secure phone.

    Why bring a cell phone across the border? They give them out in Cracker Jack at every 7-11 now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackstar View Post
    For whatever reason, their insertion into the country had to be untraceable. Obviously that was primarily for dramatic effect, but I'm okay with that. However, once they are in-country and clear of the border, they can link up with their accomplices and get a secure phone.
    Ha, you just answered your own unasked question! When you say their insertion had to be untraceable "for whatever reason", you then explain that very reason: "for dramatic effect". Nice! :)

    The mystery presented so well in the first episode is that they're going to go so deep undercover that they can't possibly be traced. Burning clothes and even witnesses. Ooh, scary!

    But that was played strictly for dramatic effect and then dropped. And we didn't even get to see this scene: "Hello, Mexican Drug Cartel Overlord? This is Pancho and Ramon. Yeah, we got here fine. The trip was okay. Bad food, uncomfortable seats, and we had to smoke some fools, but at least we didn't have to check any bags. Anyway, we're going to pick up new suits and a chrome-headed axe now, but you can reach us at 555-0666 if there's a change of plans."

    The assassino hermanos go so deep undercover for an episode and a half just to cross the border brutal style? I suppose it gets Walt's brother in law involved since he conveniently decides to order up photos of a burned immigrant smuggling truck for his daily briefing. Whatever, Breaking Bad.

    Which is fine, I guess, for TV. The idea is that we're just being dribbled out stylish bits and pieces as needed for dramatic effect rather than any meaningful narrative arc. All that plot stuff just gets contrived as needed. Maybe I'm fretting too soon without seeing where it's going, but I really didn't care for last season and I'm wondering if I should even bother with this season. I'm even a little bit over Bryan Cranston pretending to be tortured.

    Why does the medium of TV so often compromise the content? Oh, wait, I just answered my own question: it's TV... :(

    -Tom

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    All I can say is that the things that you have pointed out as straining credibility, I find to be 100% plausible. Your imagined conversation especially, yes, that's exactly what they would say! Why wouldn't they? They cross the border with extreme sanitation to hide from police, not from their employers.

    But now that I see you didn't like season 2, I don't know what to say. You may be incapable of experiencing joy.

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