His cancer could go into remission!
Originally Posted by nawida
As unlikely as it would be, I'd almost like to see Walt continue to rise as the shadow boss of the Albuquerque meth cartel, losing his family and friends in the process and ultimately dying of cancer at the top of his criminal empire.
I totally see this season ending with either Jesse or his girl biting the dust. But then wouldn't they tease it? The swimming pool thing is getting very fishy.
I'm sure it's chlorinated.
Originally Posted by nawida
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This show is fucking good. I wouldn't have picked Bob Odenkirk to give such a good performance in what (spoiler) by the end, amounts to a menacing role.
How was it a menacing role? I realize it seems, at first blush, like an attempt at blackmail, but if you rewatch it, he wasn't threatening Walt: he was offering a service, rightly pointing out that Walt and Jesse are basically incompetents with no real criminal connections.
I agree that it was a legitimate offer of business partnership, but it wasn't without an undercurrent of intimidation. I mean, Walt is obviously frightened, and rightly so. Odenkirk just did a better job than I expected of really communicating his position of strength. Especially following the earlier scene.
Yeah, Saul Goodman definitely thinks he has one up on Walt. For one, he knows the ATM murder wasn't Jesse, so the intimidation factor is gone for him at the moment. We also know he has ties to the cartel from his earlier pleading for his life, and I can easily see that coming back to bite Walt in a big way.
I think this season is going to have to end with Walt really committing to doing business with as much nastiness and violence as the competition.
04-27-2009, 01:02 PM
Thinking or hoping for violence?
04-27-2009, 06:50 PM
I dunno, I don't think it's really all that surprising. Breaking Bad is as much a comedy as it is a drama, and Odenkirk is a great comedic actor who can play it straight just enough to pull it off. Another actor like this is this guy:
Originally Posted by JPR
...but I guess he's already working on a show.
Anyway, another phenomenal episode. I don't know how this show keeps getting better, or how it maintains this slow burn suspense. I also think Saul was offering a legit partnership... he only has one up on Walt in that he's offering a service that he knows Walt needs. He found Walt so easily it's insane, which he knows will be a shock to Walt's system, and he furthermore knows that Walt has no choice but to take him up on his offer. Which he will. Like he said, it's not extortion or blackmail, just legal representation.
Re: Saul's connection to the cartel: not sure how that will play out. Yes, we know he's got some kind of connection there, but we also know he's terrified of them, so he's probably not exactly on their retainer. I could certainly see him selling them out to the cartel to save his own skin down the road, though.
04-27-2009, 07:12 PM
Yeah, Joss Whedon said in an old interview that he always tries to cast comedic actors in mostly dramatic roles, and Breaking Bad has done really well for itself by following a similar philosophy.
04-27-2009, 10:40 PM
Bah stupid cable went out on Sunday, so I didn't get a chance to watch this week's episode until today.
Wasn't expecting the Jane recovering addict angle. That should set up some nice tension in the future episodes. And damn she is cute, seriously.
And holy crap did Bob Odenkirk deliver this week. Funny, slimy, clever, the put a dollar in my pocket rolled me. I so need the Constitution wall paper for my office. How he just integrated himself into the organization by confronting Walter at the end was brilliant.
04-28-2009, 12:25 AM
Yeah, I really don't think there was an undercurrent of menace in Odenkirk's final scene. The big thing to remember is as goofy as the guy is, he was insistent on the dollar being placed in his pocket to maintain lawyer-client confidentiality.
My bigger worry if I were Walt: Who are the silent partners in "Saul Bass and Associates?"
04-28-2009, 07:43 AM
My god this show can not get any better. Next week's episode has to suck, just to counterbalance the all kinds of awesome the rest of the seasons been.
05-05-2009, 06:11 PM
Okay, I'm not looking at previous posts in this thread (forgive me) and I promise to leave after getting an answer to this question so you won't have to worry about spoiler alerting in a thread where you shouldn't have to. I've just finished the first three episodes (Netflix dvd) and I'm really on the fence as to whether I should continue. There's a lot here I like, but also some pretty big strikes against it that just made me cringe (the eBay handjob scene, the father beating up the kid in the jeans store, the uncle and the hooker).
So should I give it another go or am I okay to drop it?
"I thought we were going to Cold Stone Creamery."
05-05-2009, 07:58 PM
I don't particularly like the scenes you mention(ebay scene in particular made me roll my eyes).
Originally Posted by XtienMurawski
Breaking Bad is the best show in television.
The two statements are not mutually exclusive. The show grows in leaps and bounds. Anyways, the first season is short, and the second season is thus far visual/storytelling perfection as far as I'm concerned.
05-05-2009, 08:02 PM
I'm inclined to think that if you are so-so about the show after the first 3 episodes that you will never get why people like it so much.
It's still worth watching, but expect to be underwhelmed.
05-05-2009, 08:18 PM
It's full of cringe moments like that, actually, but it's hard to imagine the show being as powerful as it is without them.
05-05-2009, 08:39 PM
And yet it didn't. Breaking Bad is the most amazing show on television. I mean Lost has been perfect this season, but this, this is getting near The Wire status.
Originally Posted by Demon G Sides
05-05-2009, 09:38 PM
Wow another great turn where happiness isn't so happy for Walt...SO what does Walt do now? I cannot wait to find out.
"Come on you bitches, hear me now!" and the shot of the camper with the dead coyote, that was beautiful. Plus great music this week.
05-06-2009, 10:37 AM
Okay, thanks folks. I'll bump the next disc up in my queue.
I'm out. Feel free to spoiler away.
"You're the goddamn Iron Chef."
05-19-2009, 06:02 PM
Wow, this week's was downright hard to watch. Fuck Jesse, just fuck him.
05-19-2009, 07:02 PM
No kidding--letting Walt down, getting his girlfriend back on drugs, starting on the H, etc. And my brother also had to get up and miss the last 10 minutes or so, he was so disgusted with how everything was falling apart.
Originally Posted by extarbags
Next week looks like things just go from bad to worse.
With things coming to a head like this, I don't know how the third season is even possible, especially with the portentous opening scenes from a few of the episodes, hinting at a grim end for at least a couple of people.
05-19-2009, 10:03 PM
This is the most uncomfortable series I have ever watched, but the show is just so beautiful, I can't stop watching. I literally yelled at my tv throughout the whole episode. The love \ hate feelings I have with these characters is just agonizing. Jesse's moral guilt turning him into even more of an addict, Walt's callous desire for power and respect stemming from some past incident. Will the season end in a Walt vs. Jesse blowout?
05-21-2009, 02:40 AM
Just dipping back in...
I just finished watching the second disc (episodes 4-6), and I have to thank you all for encouraging me to stick with it. Wow. Some great stuff here.
This scene in Episode 5, the Talking Pillow discussion...this is one of the great scenes. So much of Episode 5 is so great.
And Bryan Cranston is fucking fantastic. He has this moment in the scene with his college pal Elliott, when Elliott is offering him a job (basically offering him charity)...beautiful.
Again...thank you all.
05-22-2009, 04:27 PM
Just the latest episode. Jesse isn't as despicable as you guys make him to be. Combo's murder really fucked him up. When shit that big happens to you, you're going to be fucked up for a while. His job just made it all worse. So 2 more episodes left, huh? This Sunday, we have a birth, a possible disaster of a deal or goldmine, and the fallout from all the different actions. And then, I'm going to guess that Mexicans turn up in the finale and kill Walt's family. I don't think the show is afraid to go there.
05-24-2009, 10:51 PM
05-25-2009, 12:58 AM
I get what you're saying about Jesse.
Originally Posted by nawida
And that was a very dark last scene in this episode. Poor Jane. She wanted to get clean, but the addiction made her get high that one last time.
(And from a male hetero audience perspective, it sucks that that eye candy is no longer going to be around. Krysten Ritter is teh hawt.)
05-25-2009, 01:11 AM
She never wanted to be clean, she'd miss pissing off her daddy too much. Getting Jesse hooked on heroin makes her vomit choked death that much more fitting.
Originally Posted by Papageno