Reply With QuoteDammit I just watched it again and deleted it. What did you notice?Originally Posted by Andrew Mayer
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Dammit I just watched it again and deleted it. What did you notice?
What are you saying? That he deftly swipes Jesse's pack of cigarettes right off him without anyone (including the audience) noticing? There appears to be nothing in his hand.
It seemed to me that the closeup on Hank's glasses after Gus walks away was a pretty definitive indication that Gus saw enough to at least give credence to his gut feeling.
What?
Huell is a screwup. His every appearance centers on him being huge and completely ineffective. No way he's capable of pickpocketing a pack of cigarettes.
And replacing them with another.
Yeah that's what Bahimiron said when we were going through this thread--that the big guy was shown time and time again to be nothing but a fuckup. I don't buy that he could make that switch in that short amount of time.
I honestly don't know who did it though. I mean...Walt appears to have been holed up in his house waiting to die and Gus did seem to threaten that he'd take another route...I NEED TO KNOW, BREAKING BAD! WHO POISONED THE KID?
He's happy to teach you about California's gold, though.
What?
I've got 7 days until I'm potentially proven wrong, but nothing in this series has lead me to believe that they would pull that kind of bait and switch. Usually, situations like this are fairly straight forward, and when the characters discover the truth (Walt and Jesse showdown) so has the audience.
There aren't many red herrings, and hopefully no red herrings that would be as silly as Walt or some other player being poisoner.
If it wasn't Gus, which it most likely was, it was an accident. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.
The only thing leading me to believe it was an accident (gee, what timing, the plot needed something like this to get Jesse/Walt back together just at this particular moment) is that Jesse wasn't detained, and there were no cops around when he: told his girlfriend the kid was probably poisoned, then left for a while, and then returned sometime later to no fanfare. Nobody so much as raised a suspicious eyebrow at him when he returned.
If it were indeed ricin, I just can't believe they'd be so nonchalant about it.
I agree with you. I've kind of thus far been assuming that what we know is the truth, but it just seems so implausible based on what we know about Gus' character. It's an incredibly risky move that hinges completely on Jesse making certain connections that hardly hold up to reason, and it gives Walt a huge opportunity to flip the tables (as he did). Either Breaking Bad if pulling a fast one on us, or this is some uncharacteristically shitty writing. I prefer to believe the former, but you're correct that there isn't much precedent for the show to do that to us.
Well, I don't believe for a second that Walt poisoned the kid-- first off, harming a child is contrary to his character, but more importantly, Walt is way too self absorbed to work machinations on Jessie. Walt has demonstrated time and time again that he's the star of the Walt Show, and he's given little thought to the other players unless they're in a position to threaten the Walt Show. Jessie is not exactly an afterthought at this point, but right now, Walt is focusing on bigger issues that he hasn't even factored Jessie into.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricin
That seems to support the "oral is less deadly and treatable" idea
In the scene where walt is spinning the gun on the patio table - the first 2 times it points at walt but the third time it points at a plant. That plant is toxic and can be what got the kid sick.
Hmm... I wondered about the plant thing.
But again, at what point does Walt get the chance to deliver the poison to its intended target?
And he'd still have to get the ricin away from Jesse at some point. Or know that it was taken.
If Walt's taking advice from that gun, he would've shot himself twice already.
I'm not a botanist, but how much of that plant would have to be force-fed to the kid to make him that sick that fast? I can't imagine Walt's keeping a truly poisonous plant around the house.
The scene is kinda like when slyar goes to the 4 corners and twice the coin lands on colorado but she moves it with her foot back to new Mexico.
I am sure walt can use his chemistry wizardry to extract the toxins from the plant. And then arrange Saul to swap cigarette packs with Jessie. Why was saul so anxious to get in touch with Jessie if he's skipping town otherwise.
I just think they need to make walt worse than Gus or else he will not truly be breaking bad.
None of it makes sense. But I think what would make the least amount of sense is that Gus' camera's picked up a suspicious cigarette being exchanged, deduced that it was poisoned, and decided to set Walt up by poisoning the kid and hoping that Jesse would blame Walt. If that's what the writers really want us to to believe, that's crazy.
Personally, I think the Magical Invisible Baby did it.
Anyone notice that before the whole hospital scene, Skylar asked the guard for a cigarette? I dunno if that was supposed to hint at anything (and no, not that Skylar was involved,) but I thought it was an interesting touch.
Unfortunately, pretty much all roads lead to stupid. I think the best outcome writing wise, is to basically not try to explain it any further than has already been done and move on. I also happen to think the writing in the series so far backs that up.
I'm thinking the plant = fertilizer = bomb.
Based on past episodes, it probably means she's pregnant, har.
Was this before or after Peter stopped him from killing Claire?
Was I the only one that saw this? In the multiples cuts between Gus in the car park and Walk on the roof... closeup on Walt, then slight pan up to the shiny glasses on his head. Gus saw the glare off the glasses, that was enough to scare him off.
Well, you said Hank.
Eh, I don't think so.
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