Reply With QuoteI just started watching this today, and have been breezing through episodes. It's astonishingly well done.
My guess: Son of a Nazi war criminal. You heard it here first.
This would provide an explanation for the ties back to German manufacturing...maybe.
I just started watching this today, and have been breezing through episodes. It's astonishingly well done.
The last two episodes have been amazing. The season was definitely an "eh" for me, and I'm a huge fan of the series, but the past two episodes, what with Jesse's speech and this new one with the Walt/Hank scene, as well as the revealing of Gus' background, really have reinforced how awesome the show really is.
And the reason we don't know why his background is important yet is because we don't know why it's important yet. It has yet to be revealed, and just because we can't think of osmething right now as to why it's important, doesn't mean it won't be sometime in the last season, or even an episode or two down the road.
I'm concerned that his background reveal will lead to Prison Break-esque plot bloat, where a neat concept (getting in to break out) turned into some global conspiracy hacker/shadow government crap.
Keep Breaking Bad in Albuquerque, please.
Given the budget arguments and the details of the renewal, I don't think you need to worry too much about this. Maybe it'll go to a room in another country, but that's about it.Originally Posted by Mike O'Malley
I just hope that the show picks the right time to stop introducing new players. Given where we are in the series, I think we're pretty close to the cutoff point, if we're not already past it. That's why the fact that I can't imagine anybody we currently know being usefully related in any way to Gustavo's Secret Origin worries me a little. Gilligan and the writers have done an exemplary job so far, though, so I doubt it will keep me up nights.
This was the concern I was trying to voice last page regarding the German connection, but better stated. Keep Breaking Bad in Albuquerque!
Keep meth local!
Unlike, say, Prison Break, Vince Gilligan and go actually have an overall arc for their show and a set timeline to finish it; they're not just bullshitting it to prolong the run.
Albuquerque is Breaking Bad, I don't think you need to worry about them moving it at all.
Ohhhh...Gus is a sneaky little bastich, if he's up to what I think he's up to.
Tell the cartels Jesse can cook the blue, send him down to Mexico. Once down there, prep him to kill the cartel's chemists with Walter as a hostage for good behavior. Mike will no doubt be down there as well, but the cartel will be watching him- he's a known dangerous quantity. He can distract them while Jesse does the deed.
Gus knows that Jesse is loyal to Walt, can be trusted to do what he's told, and has killed people (particularly meth chemists) before. While Walter would certainly present to the cartel as a better chemist, he's unpredictable, stubborn, and may not be physically capable. Jesse's a low-cost loss for Gus, he's very replaceable. Walter's too valuable to risk.
The best answer would be for Walt or Jesse to use their ricin down there, though obviously Gus can't plan for that.
Last edited by Mike O'Malley; 09-12-2011 at 09:51 AM.
Hadn't thought about that. I don't think Jesse going to Mexico adds any risk to Walt being killed although Walt certainly does not know any better. Wonder what adding a little ricin to the Mexican meth will do for its customers?
I'm still a bit uncertain about one thing. What does the cartel want from Gus? The cousins wanted revenge, but was that a sanctioned hit or a family affair?
When Gus met with the cartel representative, we were never explicitly told what the cartel wanted- both sides were already on the same page. Do they want Walter's head or the blue meth? If it's Walter, do they know what he looks like? The cousins knew, but they're dead.
If they want the blue, they'll willingly take Jesse if they think he knows how to cook it. If they want Walter, what good is Jesse to them? They've established that they're not interested in negotiation for whatever their demands are. If the latter, why is Gus sending Jesse?
They want Gus' distribution network, and they want a cut of his profits. A big cut. I don't think the cartel gives a shit about Walter. That was a family thing.
Did anyone spot the bug in the vase on the table as Skyler was on the phone to Walt?
It ties in with her converasation with her old boss. "They can wiretap anyone connected with this ( read: me) without a warrant!"
Going to be a wild 4 episodes.
Let's not forget that the operation runs on a pretty tight timeframe. Gus would send Jesse to Mexico because they've already proved that Jesse isn't necessary to keeping the operation that's already running working on schedule. Sending Walt to Mexico would mean risking the production schedule for an uncertain return.
Also, Walt's been kind of a giant bag of dicks lately and he's got a family that they have to explain his absence to. All of that would add up to not wanting to deal with his nonsense if I were in Gus's position.
I like the fact that they're putting pressure on Skylar now. She's easily the weakest link of the whole criminal enterprise and she already has some outstanding criminal activities it looks like they're going to use as leverage. It'll be fun to see where things go (random aside - I thought that Hell on Wheels was supposed to be in frigging January, but it's apparently coming out in November?), though I'm starting to feel increasingly certain that they're going to kill Marie before the end of the season, because why the hell else is she there at this point?
So yeah, this show. I just started watching it . . .
The pilot episode was better than 2/3 of the big budget movies I see. Writing FTW.
H.
Wait'll you meet Tuco. I love me some Tuco.
Tight TIGHT WHOOOOOO
RE: This week's episode -
I love a good pathetic fist fight. As nearly all fist fights are in reality, that's how I like to seem em' on the screen.
Dear Breaking bad,
More of the last 15 minutes and less of everything before.
Muchas gracias!
I will never say that Bryan Cranston is wasting my time when he goes into an emotional monologue. Some are worse than others, tonight's being average, but it's an important part of healing for when life+pride kick his ass.
I think tonight's events might seal the DEAl for Gustavo in one specific way I can tHANK of, with Jessie as the collateral damage once more.
I wish Skylar had said what she later said sooner, to go with her linear rise in intensity, because the scene ended when the reveal dropped. Blah.
Last edited by Pogo; 09-18-2011 at 11:49 PM.
I wish Skylar would drop. Drop dead that is.
I feel they invented that whole thing with her boss just to mirror the early seasons' "get lots of money, lose lots of money, end up at zero".
It makes it very easy now to finish off Gus and nobody would be the wiser since he purposely ingested poison to begin with, assuming anything more needs to be done. Mike, for a guy who nearly killed Walt, I hate to see him go, but I expect he will succumb to his wounds.
With no cartel left, this just leaves black Mike as an issue to deal with and Walt and Jesse can have a nice little empire.
As for Jesse, let this be a lesson that video games (especially Rage) can be a great learning tool.
Yeah, Jesse really did quite well at the shootout... must have been Mike's tutoring, too bad they decided not to show us that part.
My brother and I were trying to count the rounds that Jesse fired. Must have been one of those extended magazines. I think it was at least 14 shots.
Not only did they repeatedly show us his training, they rubbed our faces in it with the Rage product placements over the last few episodes.
Given his video game training, he just pointed the pistol off to the side and pulled the trigger to reload.
I have no idea if this works in Rage, but it worked quite well in the various arcade shooters.
Huh, I remembered the Rage sillyness but not the actual gun training.
Loved the latest episode. Laughed and cringed when they revealed Walter White, Jr's car. I thought the poisoning of the alcohol was done sloppily by Gus - why not use a poison that could be countered with an injection (either preemptively or while in the bathroom)?
Maybe he is scared of needles.
I thought that pill he took was meant to be some kind of antitoxin. It would make sense that it can't nullify the poison completely but gives you a good chance of survival.
Ugh of course. Completely explains why the poison took longer to hit him.
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