Even the pan you guys are saying is so sloppy and ambiguous is, in actuality, totally unambiguous. Watch it again: the shot starts with Jesse holding up the gun and a door jamb visible on the right of the screen. The camera pans to face Jesse head on, with the consequence that the door jam leaves the frame to the right. The only way that makes sense is if the camera, and not Jesse, moved.
As for why they didn't just show Jesse shooting Gale: the point of the scene isn't Gale's death, it's Jesse's emotional conflict. Leaving the camera on his face while he wrestles, then makes, the decision to kill an innocent human being in cold blood is just good drama. Breaking Bad's good about this: in early episodes, when Walt wrestled with the decision to kill others, they spent a lot of time close-up on his and his victims' face. Now that he's a remorseless and ruthless murder machine, though, they keep the camera far back and shoot the scenes objectively, to emphasize Walt's own total lack of compassion.
Any other interpretation of the final shot is just wanting for something to theorize about, which I find a bit strange: there's so much already to theorize about! To me, the more interesting question to wonder about for the next nine months is what kind of deal Walt will be able to strike with Gus, how long it will last, and how it will be broken. Vince Gilligan has always said the idea of the show is to take a high school chemistry teacher and turn him into Scarface. The season finale set up the obvious conflict of next season, in which both Gus and Walt are forced into a stalemate that eventually must be broken by one or the other person's death. My guess is by the end of season four, Walt will have struck a deal with the cartels and replace Gus as New Mexico's biggest and most powerful meth distributor... possibly with his own chain of car washes.
Yeah, same here. I was completely surprised when I came here and saw all this squabbling over it, because it didn't even occur to me that anything other than Jesse shooting Gale in that last shot could have possibly happened.Originally Posted by JPR
Anyway, awesome finale, awesome show, etc. Next season is the last season, right?
In that Onion article that was linked earlier, Vince said "Four, maybe five," but he also said that to some degree they have to consider the fact that if people still want to watch it, the network will still want to make it.
I don't think the ratings are that spectacular. And didn't Mad Men get a end date? *Pause and Google* Why yes, it did. Season 6. I think AMC will let him do his 4-5 seasons. Honestly, I don't know. If they're going to have Walt dead without actually becoming a crazy Scarface like kingpin then I only see one more season happening. But if they do go that route, I see five easy.
There's a nice interview with Vince Gilligan up today on the AMC site, in case anyone missed it.
It's kinda cool how he talks about this season and how the characters almost took on a life of their own, especially the way he talks about Skyler.
Hm the show felt more like Breaking stupid towards the end...
This sounds suspiciously like a "joke" from According to Jim.
Can I ask, from those of you who followed this show from inception, and liked it, when you think Season Three will become available?
I added it to my Netflix que, which is of course, completely helpless since it says estimated time of availability is not available.
I'd even consider buying the DVD set, I think I saw it was going to be in the mid 30s on Amazon but again, no idea when.
I don't really understand why they wait so long, does the marketing value for this go up the longer they wait? Are they waiting for the holiday gifting season or something?
I really dug the first two seasons, and am about a season and a half behind the rest of you. Life is short, I'd like to catch up!
You might even be even to coax me into some new technology, but it's so well done my preference would be to watch it on my nice 52" Sony Bravia rather than on a laptop. But hey, I did just get this sweet 27" Dell monitor for my PC that works like a champ, maybe you could teach an old dog a new trick?
The nature of the seasons are such that Breaking Bad is effectively taking a year off, at least as far as the awards season is concerned. Generally you want to hold your latest season DVDs until some time in the vicinity of when your next season will hit the air for publicity.
I watched all 3 seasons in the span of 4-5 days. I can't quite remember since my mind is in a dreamy state where I feel like I've been thrown into some other world.
Anyways, I love it. I heard people praising this show for over a year now and I figured I would get to it once I could watch most (if not all) of it without having to wait every week. Now I regret it, since it feels like Walt's rise to power happens so quickly.
It took me a while to get the hang of Jessie. It must have been after his 4th or 8th fuckup that I understood what the show was trying to do with Walt's inability to handle this lost kid. I actually felt proud for him when he embraced himself, and cursed coincidences when the another woman he finds sends him into a downward emotional spiral.
Yet the show never insults me for having these coincidences. I come away feeling like it's not some plot device. The "Fly" episode was brilliant in not only transforming what Walt thinks of how the world works (atoms bouncing into each other), but my own. It was a great episode for that, and for bonding together what previously just seemed like a superficial relationship, especially with tragedy imminent.
And I can't even count how many times the show has used either cinematography or dialog to play with expectations, and it's smart every time. All the little details that are added into the show that affect (or not) how you think it's going to turn out... just great.
I can't wait till March. I heard July was the next season, but March makes me feel a little bit better.
Way to provide good reasoning for this conclusion. Bravo! No, seriously, go watch the Bravo channel, maybe it will suit you better.
Unless there's more recent information than this indicating otherwise, I have bad news:
http://www.tvovermind.com/cable/amc/...-delayed/27843
Ahh shit, I did hear July, but then I saw March in this thread, and got excited. My hopes and dreams are crushed.
In other news, I can't find the damn minisodes that apparently were released between the first two seasons.
Minisodes can be found here under "webisodes."
That is bad news indeed. However, it should allow ample opportunity for me to catch up.
Didn't I just hear Pogo say he watched all three seasons in a short period of time?
I've only seen the first two. I have season three saved in my Netflix que.
Suggestions on how to watch season three now? I do have a nice new monitor (27") so I might be ok with watching it now rather than waiting a half a year or something until it hits Netflix.
I'm unemployed and currently have no life to speak of. I watched all 33 episodes in like 5 days.
The problem with the way I do it is that everything seems very compressed. The show's timeline for the 3 seasons seems to be about one year, but it's hard to really pin down since Walter is still employed as a teacher the whole time (well, with a bunch of "a couple week" breaks). So if you have any self control, maybe watch two or three episodes a week to keep it fresh.
I hear you Pogo! I had a similar experience with Seasons One and Two, they were like (I'll stay away from the obvious drug references) chocolate to a chocoholic. I watched them all very quickly.
I promise to take my time with Season Three. What I am asking though, is how did you get your hands on Season Three?
Something like Hulu?
[Like I said, on Netflix it goes into the unavailable yet part of my que with an unknown date of release, and checking on Amazon, say if you wanted to buy the DVDs, has the same result, at least the last time I checked.]
Also, I'm sorry to hear about your employment situation - right now I am on a short term disability leave and will return to work in a couple weeks. There is a possibility I won't last long if I don't sell some new business quickly (think of me as a glorified accountant, but I am not really a salesperson, still, I will do my best, or I may end up without a job and thinking about re-engineering my career). I'm just saying don't let it get you down in the dumps too much man, if you can help it (trying to give you a big ole morale boost!).
It would not be appropriate for me to speak on that matter on this forum.
Thanks.Also, I'm sorry to hear about your employment situation - I'm just saying don't let it get you down in the dumps too much man, if you can help it (trying to give you a big ole morale boost!).
Thank you Pogo (I was thinking I was just being my usually tecnologically deficient self here - not to worry, the time will come when I catch up).
Heck, it took me a long time to catch up on 24, but I did, eventually!
I faced a similar problem with Season 2, when I finally got my hands on the episodes, I went through the season in a couple of days so it was somewhat of a blur. Watching Season 3 the old fashion way on TV!! seemed agonizingly slow.
My good friend, who has been unemployed for 2+ years, introduced me to the show. We both decided that despite the piles of money that occasionally appear on the show, there is no need to brush up on our chemistry. There are worse jobs than looking for work.
Agreed Strollen.
Also, apparently, those rat bastards over at Amazon will sell me each Season 3 eispode to be watched at 99 cents.
I decided to practice patience and just want them when they become available... : )
That's $13. Are they downloadable, DRM free, and in HD? That would be worth it.
It's apparently also a hook to encourage you to (surprise surprise) buy more compatable HDTVs, Blu Ray players, etc. But quite possibly your already existing equipment will work. I was just hoping to watch them on my nice new monitor, that would have been fine.
Answers to some of your questions (at which point I stopped my own research): Downloadable, yes; HDTV format available, yes, but $2.99 each which makes it just about the price of the boxed DVD set when it comes out later. Not sure about DRM free, probably not, didn't get that far, just decided to wait unless I become aware of another way to watch them with less of a hassle in the meantime.
http://www.amazon.com/Breaking-Bad-C...ductPromotions
Edit: Apparently there are other free ways to watch Season Three, which I will explore soon:
http://techpp.com/2010/03/20/10-ways...line-for-free/
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Does anyone have an idea when season four will actually start? Also does anyone know when season three will be available on DVD? I lost it when my DVR had to be reset :(
Edit to say that I have tried finding the answers but could not. Amazon will let me pre-order but does not list when it's available..
Last edited by Juntei; 02-23-2011 at 07:06 AM.
I tried googling "Breaking Bad new season", and this was the first link. Sounds like July of this year, as the start was delayed to avoid competition with other shows.
I'm catching up with this as AMC is replaying the episodes in preparation for season 4. I just saw the season 3 episode where the cousins try to kill Hank in the parking lot.
Ho-lee-sheet.
I was sitting about 10 inches from the screen for the last two minutes, just sure that Hank was a goner.
Don't spoil anything for me but that's the high point for the season, right? It can't get better than that, right?
The last two episodes are just as good.
I must say, this show did No Country better than No Country did No Country .
And yeah, the seasons defining holy shit moment, you haven't witnessed yet.
This show walks that line perfectly between being hard to watch and yet being something you have to keep watching. Much like The Shield. Pretty much at every moment you're thinking "this is not going to end well."
New season starts July 17th!
http://www.tvline.com/2011/05/tvline...-girl-goodbye/
There's a (probably) higher-quality official video at the link, or there's this Youtube version here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alFsfEUtDmQ
Yes please
Just fyi, they've been rebroadcasting the whole series on Wednesday nights. Season 3 starts this week.
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