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    Beckstein Blues

    Note: This is a personal commentary and does not reflect the views of my company in any way.

    When I tell people in Germany what I do for a living, they usually react with a mixture of pity and disgust, like I had admitted to them I was a male prostitute. I've learned to avoid the subject, and give a vague answer like "software developer", because this causes me less problems. The attitude has been getting worse lately.

    I was sitting in a restaurant one day in Coburg, Bavaria. An old couple asked if they could take the seat on my table. I agreed. They sat down actually at my table, ordered food, and the woman proceeded to chain smoke her way through a packet of Reemtsmas, allowing me to smoke passively while I ate.

    Sitting at a stranger's table in a full restaurant is considered quite normal in Germany. Smoking while other people are eating doesn’t even register here as something one shouldn’t do, and nobody would even think to ask if you might not enjoy it. And health reasons? Who cares; what are those anyway?

    There's a strong link between passive smoking and death. They estimate about 50,000 non-smokers die in the US every year to passive smoking. Under pressure from the EU the German government reluctantly proposed new laws banning smoking in restaurants. This law was due to take effect in the new year, but it got struck down last week for being unconstitutional.

    Despite the proven links between passive smoking and a very unpleasant death for many thousands of people every year, nobody in Germany wants to ban smoking. Not the public, nor the politicians. They will find any excuse to avoid EU pressure to conform and save lives. Not so for computer games.

    For computer games both the press and public are histrionic, and the politicians are keen to tap into every reactionary outrage. What triggered the latest bout of threats to the German computer games industry was an "amokrun" at Emsdetten last month, but the whole issue has been simmering for some years now, since Robert Steinhauser took out his 9mm Glock and killed 13 teachers and 2 students at his school in Erfurt.

    At the time of the shooting, we were already in development of the "murder simulator" Far Cry at our old studio in Coburg. We were just across the state border from Erfurt in northern Bavaria. Tensions in the region were high. While the people of Coburg continued to treat us like mini-superstars, because we were the biggest thing ever to happen to this small German town, it was a different matter for the rest of the state.

    In 2004 the Bavarian authorities sent in the state troopers. Ostensibly it was as a response to a claim made by a former employee that we had illegal software installed on our machines. Their remit, however, appeared to be a lot wider. When the small tech team appeared to inspect our computers, they were accompanied by over one hundred flak-jacketed riot police, all armed with Heckler and Koch sub-machine guns.

    It was a total overreaction. It was like they expected to find us hunkered down behind our desks, pulling out our shotguns and semi-automatics and shouting "you'll never take me alive, polizei!" They arrived first thing in the morning, and kicked down our doors. They even raided the nearby private residences, with one of our programmers forced to lay down naked on the floor with a gun to his head after he discovered armed police in his room after finishing his shower.

    Because we weren't all at work at the same ungodly hour that most Germans start, they were forced to set up ambushes all over town. I was caught just outside the office. Others were pounced on in the park. There were reports that they'd even set up roadblocks on the exits to the town. We were all shepherded into our Mo-Cap room, and there we were forced to remain until questioned, prevented from leaving by dozens of armed guards. There must have been two guys (and girls) with submachine guns for every one of us. You can imagine we didn't feel very welcome in Bavaria after that.

    Bavaria is a very conservative state, possibly the most conservative of an already conservative nation. The state president of Bavaria, Dr. Edmund Stoiber, renowned for his somewhat bizarre habit of dressing up in lederhosen and a Tyrolean hat, made it very clear before the raid how much he despised the kind of "killer games" that we made. And it is again from Bavaria where this latest attempt to ban computer games is stirring.

    Dr. Günther Beckstein (many important Germans have doctorates; the Germans seem to have a great respect for qualifications), Interior Minister for the state of Bavaria, has drafted a new law so that those "who distribute, produce, obtain or deliver computer games that allow the player to perform violent acts against human beings in a cruel way or a way violating human dignity as primary or secondary objectives, will be punished with a fine or imprisonment of up to one year.” He's backed by Lower Saxony, our neighbours.

    It seems that the politicians are largely just reacting to hysteria in the public and press. The general consensus is that the government won't pass this law, and even if they did, they would find themselves in conflict with local state laws, and overarching EU laws. EU laws are designed to protect free trade between nations, and so banning something that is perfectly legal in every other part of the EU causes problems. Our current home state of Hessen is relatively liberal, and so far hasn't made any noises about supporting this legislation, so we aren't packing our bags just yet.
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    The hysteria, however, is huge. Even before the latest amokrun the press were fixated with games and their effects on children. Crytek are big news in Germany just on their success alone. Our latest game is currently attracting more development dollars than any German movie in history. You'd think the press would be interested in us purely because of this, but no.

    We had Der Spiegel, roughly equivalent to Time Magazine in the US, and the most popular weekly magazine in Europe, run a five page center spread on us a few months back, before the Emsdetten shooting and the latest furore. Even this relatively restrained and respected news magazine couldn't resist focusing almost the entire article on violence in games. They even printed a picture of children playing some unnamed game at the Leipzig Games Convention, with the words of our CEO, Cevat Yerli, underneath saying how "we don't make games for children."

    That's pretty mild. The tabloids have headlines screeching about “killer games”, and stating as fact that children become killers because of playing such games. The TV stations when they covered this issue recently kept playing the youtube video of the "angry German kid" alongside supposedly serious coverage. If you've seen the video, you will understand what kind of impression this would give viewers. I don't even believe the video is genuine, as he doesn't even appear to be moving the mouse when he is shooting people in between bouts of keyboard smashing. But facts don't appear to be all that important in the German "killer game" debate right now.

    Since the shooting, Der Spiegal returned to the subject again last week, reporting on the violent murder of a homeless man in Cottbus, in deepest East Germany. The man was kicked in the face repeatedly until he died. The autopsy found "a profound demolition of the face". The opening line of this article painted the obvious bias in it.

    A 19 years old man has confessed that he killed a homeless man with kicks and blows to his face. His motive was frustration he stated at court. Right before this act of brutality he had been stopped by the local police and had been playing a violent computer game – losing every match.
    At least Der Spiegel had the decency to write about the other factors in the case, albeit almost as a footnote. What they didn't feel appropriate to comment on in the lede, was the fact that he'd claimed the killing was a result of him playing the game and having drunk a bottle of beer, two bottles of wine and an entire bottle of chocolate liqueur before the incident. Nor did it mention that he was a neo-Nazi obsessed with violence. He'd even scrawled "Heil Hitler", "White Power Hooligans" and multiple swastikas on the walls of his holding cell before the trial.

    Of course, it was the game's fault that the neo-Nazi caved in this man's skull. You know what the game was? Maybe Gears of War or Dead Rising, two games recently refused classification in Germany? The usual suspects of CounterStrike, Manhunt or Grand Theft Auto? No, it was SmackDown vs Raw 2006 - a wrestling game.

    Wrestling is considered family entertainment in the US, but a simulation of Wrestling is considered in Germany a "violent computer game" with the ability to stir previously innocent neo-Nazi hooligans to acts of immense violence. It beggars belief and its little surprise that Germany is becoming the laughing stock of the European press.

    Despite the incredulity of these articles, the lack of evidence, and the bemusement of the rest of Europe, Germans remain adamant that these games are evil. A recent survey suggested as many as 66% of Germans would support a ban on these games. On the other hand, despite the known dangers of passive smoking, the certainty of a nasty and painful death for thousands every year, the majority of Germans are opposed to the banning of smoking even in restaurants.

    With a majority of Germans thinking you are evil and the press and politicians baying for you to be thrown in jail, it can make life uncomfortable. Thankfully Frankfurt is a wonderful city, the richest in Europe, where people are more interested in making money than moralizing about the contents of games. When my friend recently dared to mention his exact profession to a woman in one of the great nightclubs here, he was surprised that her reaction was "that's a fantastic job, you must make a ton of cash."

    I love Frankfurt. I love Germany. I think it's a great country to live in. I really hope they don't make me leave.

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    Wow. Link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Perkins
    Wow. Link?
    Link to what?

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    Actually, there isn't really any hard evidence that passive smoking kills.




    /runs

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    I just assumed this was copy and pasted from somewhere...


    Story is complete crazy talk and actually makes you happy we just have kooks like Thompson.

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    Huh. I actually assumed it was Tim writing about his own experiences.

    That was a great couple posts, by the way. Really interesting read, Tim.

    The juxtaposition of the whole "Platz frei?" and blowing smoke in your face bit with the intellectual property fascism is a dichotomy I'd never thought of. I'm actually REALLY surprised that U.S.-style smoking nazism hasn't been imported there yet.

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    Thanks, OMG, and yes it is my own personal experience written here :).

    I guess I should have mentioned that.

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    Tim, mind if link these posts on my blog? Very interesting and somewhat scary. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Perkins
    Tim, mind if link these posts on my blog? Very interesting and somewhat scary. :)
    Sure. They are public now anyway :).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Partlett
    Sure. They are public now anyway :).
    Yeah, but I like to be polite. And my two loyal readers promise not to tell anyone anyway. :P

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    Why the fuck don't you guys move to Ireland or some other EU country with tech friendly tax laws?

    Your post is well written and interesting to read, but by the old "show it, don't tell it"-maxim you describe the anti-game climate vividly, but then proclaim your love for Germany and Frankfurt without any details that would make the reader understand the love - to be frank, you make Germany and especially Bavaria sound really nasty.
    What's to love? (I have plenty of friends raving about Berlin and a half german boss... but I still consider Germany a place to pass through on the way to the interesting parts of Europe. I did however eat some fantastic - Italian - food last time I was at CeBit.)

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    I love Frankfurt.
    Man, the only explanation for this is that you've never lived in any other place but Coburg or Frankfurt, huh? :P

    Jokes aside, since I know some Crytek devs as you may or may not remember, Tim - I recall one of them telling me that people working at the company (way back in Coburg) were seen in the same league as child molestors by some of the people living there... ^^

    As far as general conditions go, it's fine where I live. We have a small, but healthy community of dev teams around here. Earlier this year our studio even got visited by a member of the Bundestag (parliament), who wanted to know more about the development of games.

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    That's a fantastic article, thanks for posting it.

    I had read of the proposed regulations before your post. Will these proposed new laws describe any depiction of violence as "Cruel" catch even strategy games under their umbrella? Would it be cruel to put the population of a city to the sword in Medieval 2? Or cruel to invade another country in Europa Universalis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanzii
    Why the fuck don't you guys move to Ireland or some other EU country with tech friendly tax laws?

    Your post is well written and interesting to read, but by the old "show it, don't tell it"-maxim you describe the anti-game climate vividly, but then proclaim your love for Germany and Frankfurt without any details that would make the reader understand the love - to be frank, you make Germany and especially Bavaria sound really nasty.
    What's to love? (I have plenty of friends raving about Berlin and a half german boss... but I still consider Germany a place to pass through on the way to the interesting parts of Europe. I did however eat some fantastic - Italian - food last time I was at CeBit.)

    Ahhh now we come to the point... Why would you stay in germany? Is it because we are a peacelaving nation with very low crime? If you get killed in germany in a homicide you will be in most newspapers...

    Is it because we got a high social standard? Is it that most of us dont want to go mercenary to another country because we love our country (not in a frenzied way like the us).
    Yes! to all of the above.

    I believe everyone everywhere on this planet loves the country where he/she is born.

    And now to the subjekt at hand:

    I dont know if tim isnt a little bit exaggerating (i really dont know) with a place like bavaria it could be easily true (even for us germans they are a little freaky).

    But lets see it from another view, what would your politicians say if there was nudity in pc games? Here in germany there would be a few raised eyebrows and perhaps (but only perhaps) the game would go 16+. Would the story be the same in the us?

    We germans love two things most, first our peace and second that our government is a bit like a rich grandma that does anything for us. So most of our voters are expecting from our government to insure a save way of live. Our politicos react accordingly (often they overreact).

    Yes we do have a problem here with violence in games, much more so than in the states, but we are e.g. much more forgiving in sexually matters.

    You cant have both, total freedom and a peaceful live. You can ask where to live is better but i think the answer would be different for every one on this planet.

    And before you ask, no i dont believe that a government should be able to control what i read, what i think or what i play but im over 40 now and i do know what is good for me and what is not.

    And believe it or not times are a changing here in germany too. We have only to wait for a few decades until our old ones have died. ;)

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    Interesting stuff, Tim, but mostly I'm just glad you've decided to further the use of the word "amokrun."

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSelfishGene
    That's a fantastic article, thanks for posting it.

    I had read of the proposed regulations before your post. Will these proposed new laws describe any depiction of violence as "Cruel" catch even strategy games under their umbrella? Would it be cruel to put the population of a city to the sword in Medieval 2? Or cruel to invade another country in Europa Universalis?
    Hey its only beckstein and stoiber. They are only province politicos with not enough power to get a new law running. Merkel or Beck would think twice to invest such a law (our parties have youth organizations and they need more members not less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hetzer
    Ahhh now we come to the point... Why would you stay in germany? Is it because we are a peacelaving nation with very low crime? If you get killed in germany in a homicide you will be in most newspapers...

    Is it because we got a high social standard? Is it that most of us dont want to go mercenary to another country because we love our country (not in a frenzied way like the us).
    Yes! to all of the above.

    I believe everyone everywhere on this planet loves the country where he/she is born.
    But Tim isn't born in germany (or is he?) and I asked him.
    I'm not American, so don't answer me as if I don't know Germany. Look at my location.
    I speak German (but understand it better) and I visit at least once a year. But Tim painted a picture of a country where not only silly politicians but a large percentage of the population thought what he did for a living was wrong - I once wrote for a tabloid newspaper, so I have some idea how this feels. That's why I asked (him).

    You do make and interesting point about sex/nudity.
    I'm sure that if the German developers working on the Lulu games moved to The States (or certain states in the US) they wouldn't feel welcome either... and not just because those games suck more than German comedy [smileyface with a wink]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanzii

    You do make and interesting point about sex/nudity.
    I'm sure that if the German developers working on the Lulu games moved to The States (or certain states in the US) they wouldn't feel welcome either... and not just because those games suck more than German comedy [smileyface with a wink]
    Yeah that battle was lost from the conservatives in the seventies, and our conservatives arent dumb enough to refought lost battles ;).

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSelfishGene
    That's a fantastic article, thanks for posting it.

    I had read of the proposed regulations before your post. Will these proposed new laws describe any depiction of violence as "Cruel" catch even strategy games under their umbrella? Would it be cruel to put the population of a city to the sword in Medieval 2? Or cruel to invade another country in Europa Universalis?
    That is a very obvious danger with the legislation as it is proposed. It could easily be interpretted to include even games like Gothic 3 or The Settlers. I haven't played Gothic 3 yet, but in Gothic 2 you could beat the crap out of the citizens of the city. It was like a fantasy GTA. I would imagine the guys who made the Gothic series, who are based just north of me in Essen I believe, would easily be affected by this, if it came to pass.

    Just the mere threat of two years in jail could well be enough for anyone to leave. I mean who wants to risk some uptight judge interpetting the actions of someone setting fire to their Sims, or building a ride in Rollercoaster Tycoon that can crash deliberately into a 3D queue of people, as being a game that "allows the player to perform violent acts against human beings in a cruel way".

    And what about dropping nuclear bombs on people in Civilization?

    Hopefully the law will be considered too insane or too wide reaching for anyone to implement it, but with most of the population backing a ban, the threat is always there that something like it will get implemented eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanzii
    Why the fuck don't you guys move to Ireland or some other EU country with tech friendly tax laws?

    Your post is well written and interesting to read, but by the old "show it, don't tell it"-maxim you describe the anti-game climate vividly, but then proclaim your love for Germany and Frankfurt without any details that would make the reader understand the love - to be frank, you make Germany and especially Bavaria sound really nasty.
    What's to love? (I have plenty of friends raving about Berlin and a half german boss... but I still consider Germany a place to pass through on the way to the interesting parts of Europe. I did however eat some fantastic - Italian - food last time I was at CeBit.)
    The reasons I love living in Frankfurt and Germany have little to do with computer games (other than the fact that I love my job), which is why I didn't think it worth going into detail about, not to mention it was just an after work scrawl, not an article I spent any time planning.

    Also the aspect of Germany that I wrote about has little real impact on my every day life. I don't have people spitting at me in the street. All the Germans I have met have been very nice, even if they rate my profession as being on the same level as a drug pusher. I mostly only think about it when someone posts yet another news article about the subject on the internal mailing list at work. There's just been a lot of those articles recently.

    Germany, and especially Frankfurt, are great places to live, for me, because the quality of life is so good. Frankfurt is one of Germany's most expensive cities, and has its highest crime rate, and yet it is still far cheaper than all but the most foul British cities, and I feel safe walking around pretty much every part of the city, day or night, which is not something I can say about my home country. Frankfurt rates in the top ten quality of life surveys every year, and from my experience it deserves it.

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    In the 80's in the US being a pen and paper role-playing game designer was probably equivocated with being a devil worshipper. I think that's a lot worse than griping about being seen as a drug pusher. You don't get bombed by fanatics for being a drug pusher.

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    The U.S. is full of religious lunatics, to be honest. However, their concentration is much lower in urban areas, and most of them are not dangerous.

    Then again, I've always lived in the U.S. and am perhaps desensitized. It seems normal to me to always be thinking "is this a good part of town? Is it safe after sundown?"

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    Wow...Slashdot, Digg, Kotaku & Gamepolitics. Well done!

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    ha! I scooped them all!

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    What the hell? Why are they freaking out?

    It's easy to explain why Americans keep traying to pass these things, but I don't get Germany.

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    Why is it easy to explain in the case of America?

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    Because Americans are best known for their religious fundies. Germans are
    better known for food and beer ;)

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    And for their angsty post-WW2 pacifism. Besides, Beckstein himself is a Catholic who has said in an interview that he would never play violent video games because that's incompatible with his "Christian world view".

    However, Intarweb lore has established that American Christians typically object to sex but not to violence. So I'd say it's much more puzzling why America would worry about violent videogames (that don't also worship satan or show boobies).

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    Actually, one of my ideas for a game involves satanic worship, necromancy
    and boobies. Get in line for publishing rights! :)

    But I don't hear the negative things about Germans as much as the negative
    things about Americans where I live. I think Europe has gotten over WW2 for
    the most part, so it's US-hatin' that's the in-thing now.

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