Reply With QuoteBeer bulks too much per ounce of alcohol. I'd pack liquor instead :)
If, by chance, three men were to head out in the wilderness in the cold of near-Winter, they would need supplies. They'd need the obvious stuff. Beer, for example, comes to mind. And, presumably, they'd need other things as well. If we were to form a list, what would it look like?
Beer bulks too much per ounce of alcohol. I'd pack liquor instead :)
Alcohol plus winter is a recipe for frostbite. It gives you a false sense of being warm. If you're going somewhere where it's actually freezing it's a really bad idea. If it's just going to be cold, booze away.
Bear traps so they don't take you during the night.
I believe there will be Rockin' Rye and Blackberry Brandy on tap. That should do the trick.Originally Posted by Dave Markell
The only camping supply that matters is the rocket launcher.
A gun (Rywill, I'm looking at yoooooooooou!)
Spare blankets kept inside the vehicle at all times, in case of rain.
A short list:
3 sources of fire
3 knives
Hammock (Hennessey)
Space blanket
stove + gas
0 degree mummy bag
Lots of wool
Water filter
food
There's the essentials for getting through the night and being able to eat and drink. Above and beyond, you have:
LED flashlight/headlamp
Cooking kit + food
TP
shovel/trowel
Paracord
thermal underwear
Platypus or similar bladder
firearm
booze
first aid supplies
compass
mirror
toiletries
Those are the comfort/contingency items. I usually pack about 40lbs on the way in. For specific brands,
http://www.hennessyhammock.com/
http://www.msrcorp.com/
http://www.purwaterfilter.com/hikguidpor.html
Those are the big three. Regarding packs and sleeping bags, the debate is endless and mostly pointless. Just look for the lowest temp rating you can afford.
Backpacking is very, very similar to other gadget sports like paintball or golf, in that most people derive their greatest enjoyment from the acquisition of equipment, rather than the actual activity. As such, there are an endless number of forums debating whether to get the 500$ sleeping bag or the 700$ bag, with frequent detours to call each other stupid. Then you have the minimalists, who are even worse. They like to drill holes in their toothbrush to save weight, and consider anyone who carries more than 20lbs to be a moron.
For my money, get the lightest pack you can for under 100$, the lowest temp bag for under 100$, buy some fun gear, and get out there. If you splurge and get the hammock, you'll save 4-6 lbs over a tent, and stay warmer as you are kept off of the ground. It's a great system.
H.
Fortunately, I always take my jungle-camo ninja outfit when I go camping. So you think you're looking at me, but then OHMYGOD WHAT'S THAT RUSTLING BEHIND YOU?
GROSS. Leave the poor things alone. Haven't they suffered enough?
At least now they need suffer no longer. And, just to make the arrangement all symbiotic-like, we get the use of their precious bladders.
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I don't know, but I bet Kitsune does.At least now they need suffer no longer. And, just to make the arrangement all symbiotic-like, we get the use of their precious bladders.
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It's a brand, you jack-legged frooferaws.At least now they need suffer no longer. And, just to make the arrangement all symbiotic-like, we get the use of their precious bladders.
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http://www.platypushydration.com/
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don't forget the complete idiot's guide to camping and hiking!
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Assuming you already know where you're going. But if not, some places have a policy of park and hike. Meaning, you park your car and then hike up to the camping site. So you'd want to go easy on the non-essentials if this is the case. Also, be prepared to take your trash with you on the way out, so have some garbage bags.
Generally speaking though, if you have an automobile near by you'll be fine, since you can always bug out if something bad happens. So you basically need food, clothing, and shelter. The rest is secondary.
Pepper spray is also good on wild animals if you don't have a gun.
If you are going any place where you might get lost, I'd even recommend one of those cheap Garmin GPS units.
K
Extra socks
Here's a fairly comprehensive list.
Code:Gear List for Winter Camping _____ Wall Tent _____ Tent Poles _____ Wood Stove _____ Stovepipe _____ Toboggans _____ Ground Sheet _____ 2 Garbage Bags _____ Bowls _____ Cups _____ Spoons _____ Water Bottles _____ Knives _____ Compasses _____ Matches _____ Flash Lights or Headlamps _____ Plastic Bags _____ First Aid Kit _____ Cooking Stove _____ Pots _____ Food _____ Saw _____ Axe _____ Skis _____ Wax _____ Ski Poles _____ Tooth Brushes _____ Toothpaste _____ Toilet Paper _____ Sunglasses _____ Sunscreen _____ Gas Lantern Clothing List for Winter Camping _____ Sleeping bag _____ Outer Sleeping Bag _____ Sleeping Pad _____ 2 Long Underwear Top _____ 2 Long Underwear Bottoms _____ 4 pair socks _____ Long Sleeved Shirt _____ Wool Sweater _____ Fleece or Down Vest _____ Outer Parka _____ Wool or Fleece Pants _____ Rain Pants _____ Toque _____ Snowboots _____ 2 pair Wool Mitts _____ Leather Mitts _____ Sleeping Clothes _____ Gaiters _____ Skiing clothes _____ Ski boots
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you forget the sled dogs. 'cause i'm not sure how else you are getting the toboggans into the woods.
Be sure to take something to scare away the wolf people.
Pocket pussy for each guy unless of course you guys don't mind sharing one together.
You pull them behind you. It's far easier than trying to carry a loaded pack, especially when you are skiing.
I'll take the sled dogs.You pull them behind you. It's far easier than trying to carry a loaded pack, especially when you are skiing.
A light sleeping pad can keep you off the cold ground but they can add some bulk.
How is that hammock in heavy bitter winds? I do some sea kayak trips in Sept/Oct up in Maine and it can get pretty freakin windy so it's nice to have the full enclosure of a tent to keep the wind at bay. But sleeping on the ground (even with a nice air mat) is just killer on the old back!
I thought backpacking was the hobby of going abroad and sleeping in hostels where everybody speaks english and which looks the same whether they're in the Netherlands, India or South Africa and then sleeping with foreign girls after pretending you know where their native country is located.
I'm pretty sure, we didn't pack any of that stuff...
I haven't tried it in those conditions, but with the supplied rain fly deployed, it shouldn't be too bad.A light sleeping pad can keep you off the cold ground but they can add some bulk.
How is that hammock in heavy bitter winds? I do some sea kayak trips in Sept/Oct up in Maine and it can get pretty freakin windy so it's nice to have the full enclosure of a tent to keep the wind at bay. But sleeping on the ground (even with a nice air mat) is just killer on the old back!
H.
I think it would be fantastic in good weather but I don't think I'd want to get stuck in it for prolonged wind and rain. To me, being able to sit up in a tent and cook on a stove in the vestibule is worth the extra weight.I haven't tried it in those conditions, but with the supplied rain fly deployed, it shouldn't be too bad.A light sleeping pad can keep you off the cold ground but they can add some bulk.
How is that hammock in heavy bitter winds? I do some sea kayak trips in Sept/Oct up in Maine and it can get pretty freakin windy so it's nice to have the full enclosure of a tent to keep the wind at bay. But sleeping on the ground (even with a nice air mat) is just killer on the old back!
H.
True enough, it's primary application is lightweight hiking/jungle hiking.I think it would be fantastic in good weather but I don't think I'd want to get stuck in it for prolonged wind and rain. To me, being able to sit up in a tent and cook on a stove in the vestibule is worth the extra weight.I haven't tried it in those conditions, but with the supplied rain fly deployed, it shouldn't be too bad.A light sleeping pad can keep you off the cold ground but they can add some bulk.
How is that hammock in heavy bitter winds? I do some sea kayak trips in Sept/Oct up in Maine and it can get pretty freakin windy so it's nice to have the full enclosure of a tent to keep the wind at bay. But sleeping on the ground (even with a nice air mat) is just killer on the old back!
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