Reply With QuoteSo it's DragonQuest Z now? [kill me]
...that the best PS2 RPG out there now has a demo, that apparently you pick up at several different retailers, like this Fry's place and such. The demo covers the first short area and quest of the game, as well as a battle demo with a wider area to explore and more enemies to fight, so I hear. Also, Dragon Quest VIII will come with a Final Fantasy XII demo when it releases on November 22nd (date sound familiar?).
I'm surprised Square's put so much attention into trying to get DQ up into the bigtime. While I'm quite adamant that changing the spell names into goofy shlock rather than just keeping the rather unique fantasy gibberish was a bad idea, as is making the character hair look Super Saiyan when they reach the highest level of tension, I guess a new menu system can't hurt, although the old one is terribly fast and efficient. I think you can turn off the new voice-acting too, which is good (there wasn't any in the Japanese version and I can't imagine that it will turn out well). With all this and the mall tour and such, I wonder if its had any effect on attracting customers.
In any case, no matter what they do, its not going to have any effect on how much the actual game kicks ass.
-Kitsune
So it's DragonQuest Z now? [kill me]
So you're saying that the next DQ is being released in English? I'd give it a go if so.
Yeah November 22 Dragon Warrior 8 is set for release.
I wonder if I can get it at midnight. The local game shops would have enough on their hands with xbox360 midnight madness, but I could see them having both on hand to make it "an event".
But, am I playing a 13 year old boy and his 13 year old friends saving the world? Because it's just not a JRPG if I'm not a preteen.
dont futz with DQ mang! I cutchoo! Cutchoo bad!Originally Posted by Backov
It is the untouchable perfect series every retard thinks FF is.
Let me guess - I was right?dont futz with DQ mang! I cutchoo! Cutchoo bad!
It is the untouchable perfect series every retard thinks FF is.
1-3 had you playing as an adult if I remember correctly. Beyond that who knows.
No clue actually, but in some of them you start as a kid and grow up, etc... these arent your metrosexual jrpg shitfests like ff7->Let me guess - I was right?dont futz with DQ mang! I cutchoo! Cutchoo bad!
It is the untouchable perfect series every retard thinks FF is.
These are more of a happy carefree oldschool style. AFAIK this one just has nice 3d art.
I like the series because they are loooooooong and they dont beat you over the head with a crappy story, it's just wandering around and levelling up, they always reminded me of old ultimas except not hideous visually.
Try dw7, it is great. Hope you have 2839792836578425 hours to spend because it is long, but it is a damn good crpg. I know almost nothing about 8 except it is prettied up. Anyways there are better resources than me if you want to learn about the series, I just piped in to say I hate 9/10 jrpgs I come into contact with (like most of the SMT games and dragon warrior, I think thats it) and this series doesnt deserve any hate or an instant dismissal as JRPG poop.
No offense to FF fans, but goddamn those games are unplayable beyond ff7 and ff7 is annoying as hell in its own right.
So I'm a retard for liking FF? It's good to be retarded then, I guess. You don't have to like the game, but you also don't have to be an asshole to those that do.
I enjoy the DQ/DW series, though. I didn't like 7 as much as the previous ones, so I'm hoping 8 is better.
DQ8 was developed by Level 5, the team that made Dark Cloud 2 (and the team that was working on the Xbox MMORPG True Fantasy Online).
It looks absolutely fantastic, both gameplay and art wise.
EDIT: If you never played Dark Cloud 2, it was the best (IMO) RPG released on the PS2. Review:
http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/adventur...q=dark+cloud+2
Dark Cloud 2 is very good. Its also cheap to find these days and its great for the price.
I found dq7 to be annoying. Awful FMV, dated graphics, dated sounds (although that was partly intentional), cliche and trite story, little to no characterization, boring art style. Toriyama was phoning it in. The length didn't help any, as I thought most of it was filler. Go to an island, find what's wrong, beat the crap out of a monster, rinse, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat.
The combat system was good, as were the graphics for the monsters. The class system was great as well. And the size of the land was incredible.
Please don't judge DQ8 by the bad after taste that DQ7 left. I wasn't too crazy about DQ7 myself but I thought DQ8 was amazing :P
Dark Cloud 2 was not without it's charms, but it had.. pacing issues. By which I mean it was tedius beyond belief. Those last few dungeons? Zone after zone of doing the exact same thing. And it wasn't that you needed to go hit them once to advance the story, you needed to replay zones multiple times.
It was also pretty cliched in terms of having a goddamn super-intelligent and annoyingly earnest 13-year old as the main character.
I've only played 3 RPGs on the PS2 indepth enough to rank them, but I personally found Dark Alliance and FFX to be significantly more enjoyable games. I loved Dark Cloud 2 for about 10 hours, but I never beat it. I just couldn't take the tedium.
If you thought it was an 'untouchable perfect series' yes. If you enjoy them, great. The ones I *do* have to be an asshole to are the ones named gothcl0udstryfe666 that have sigs the size of the moon.
The earlier FFs are some of my favorite games btw, I just hated the direction 7 took and every single thing after it. I hate the art and cinemas, mostly.
Dark Cloud 2 really really annoyed me, totally retarded menus. I never thought a gui could kill a really sweet game for me, but I sold it 2 days after buying it. I'd love s streamlined version or something
on the dq7 fmvs, yeah they sucked, they were fmvs, wtf. All of them suck, that is when you are supposed to go get another beer or make a sandwich. The 3d was pretty weak as well and likely a bad idea. I did like everything else.
It's hard not to be instantly assaulted by the sheer beauty powering this PS2 behemoth. In 16:9 it's a showcase performer, and with FF becoming ever so mysterious and scarce these past couple years, Squeenix could and should take advantage of this potential revenue cow. Thankfully it seems they are trying their damndest to do just that with the inclusion of a FF12 demo and such.
Rumor is that the US will receive a refitted orchestral score into the game proper, but I just think it's possibly a mistaken preview comment spun out of control.
I don't worship the ground FF walks on, but I think it's a good series. I thought 7 was good, if maybe a little confusing, 8 was alright but bland, 9 sucked, and 10 was a lot like 8 except it had Auron which at least partially redeemed the obnoxious Tydus. I really liked Tactics. Hopefully 12 will be something fresh with the new encounter system. And of course, 1-6 were mostly great, 6 being my alltime favorite.
DW1 was a classic. That game was seriously challenging. I want to try the SNES DQ's as well, since I found a couple translation hacks floating around that don't seem too bad. DQ8 sounds awesome.
Not a rumor, as I got a reviewable copy loaded up and a very orchestral soundtrack is blaring from it.
Also, Squenix hired actors from British soaps to do the voices, so it has this odd tone of satirical British melodrama. Yanghus speaks with an awesome Cockney accent.
If Kitsune happens to be reading this, I'm at the point where I have three party members, and I'm returning the ring to the (I think his Japanese name is...) Kukule. Or whoever the fourth party member is. I realize this is a very futile question, but how far along am I in the main story? O_O
Thierry, I'd say you're about 1/10th of the way through the game. How're you liking it so far? Overworld huge enough for you? :D So you've seen the bar scene too! Wasn't that GREAT?
It could be hard to tell whether the soundtrack has been changed, certainly only certain parts of it sounded fakey in the Japanese version, other songs sounded almost entirely orchestral.
Its interesting to hear about the voices, it seems the way they've decided to translate Hori's rather unique sounding writing style is to exaggerate through voice acting. Doesn't sound like too bad of an idea. I hope people "get" that its not supposed to sound like traditional dialogue...
And for the last time, Dragon Quest VIII was not developed by Level 5, the graphics production was their part in the game. Everything was done by the usual succession of Enix studios who ALWAYS do Dragon Quest. So if you're thinking that the game is different, because there's been a shift in the development studio, you're mistaken. Though, Level 5 has been heavily, heavily influenced Hori's design philosophies (the idea of play radii, design > breadth, the every-inch-counts graphic design, the idea of exploratory combat, etc.)
-Kitsune
A demo is out. I have to say, the amount of polish that the game has is amazing. The overworld is what every console RPG should look like. It reminds me a bit of the detail that Radiata Stories has, except you aren't on a linear path.
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