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    Bond... James Bond.

    My buddy is a huge James Bond fan, and he's claiming that this Bond film will be the greatest one ever. He watches every Bond film from beginning to end whenever a new 007 film is about to be released. It does look pretty cool though.

    Is anyone going to watch this film this weekend?

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    I might take my kids. They want to see it. I'm sure I'll enjoy it, but I have no idea how good it is, of course.

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    I kinda lost interest in the bond films after Timothy Dalton signed on. They seem to have become cheesier and cheesier. One liners, gadgets and all. I am not sure I have seen even one with Pierce in it (although I have seen every episode of Remington Steele with him and Stephanie Zimbalist).

    Sean Connery was the shit. Roger Moore was somewhat lesser shit and Timothy Dalton gave me the shits.

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    It's a return to the best era of Bond films---Dr. No, Goldfinger, etc. With this Bond flick, they're actually making Bond into a respectable spy again, albeit it's not the best Bond movie, but it's far from the worst. It'll rank up there in the top few.

    I'm glad to see they're returning to their roots and making him into Bond, James Bond, again. Instead, they were turning him into Generic Hunt, Ethan Hunt, Clone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyjenks
    I kinda lost interest in the bond films after Timothy Dalton signed on. They seem to have become cheesier and cheesier. One liners, gadgets and all. I am not sure I have seen even one with Pierce in it (although I have seen every episode of Remington Steele with him and Stephanie Zimbalist).

    Sean Connery was the shit. Roger Moore was somewhat lesser shit and Timothy Dalton gave me the shits.
    Yea.. Mr. Dalton allmost single handily destroyed the Bond series. My buddy can not stand him. And actually, Pierce makes a very good Bond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AIM
    And actually, Pierce makes a very good Bond.
    Better than he was as a love starved scientist in Dante's Peak? Inconceivable!!

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    I have no interest whatsoever in the new Bond movie. The series now resembles its own carciatures, like Austin Powers, more than it resembles the Connery Bond movies. I actually much preferred Dalton's Bond to Brosnan's version -- at least Dalton had some of Connery's toughness, while Bronsan has Moore's smarmyness.

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    Another reason to go. From Blues:

    "This Blizzard Entertainment Press Release announces plans to premiere a new cinematic trailer for Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos in theaters beginning tomorrow with the opening of James Bond: Die Another Day. The new trailer will also appear "before such movies as Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers, Star Trek: Nemesis, and Solaris." Word is: "Additionally, patrons of AMC Theatres will be able to take home a free Warcraft III Game Sampler CD-ROM when they purchase a large Coke and a Butterfinger candy bar at the concession stand. This exclusive disc includes a playable demo of the game, featuring three new Warcraft III single-player missions, and three new multiplayer maps to be used with the full version of the game."

    A new trailer and you can grab a demo with some new missions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desslock
    I have no interest whatsoever in the new Bond movie. The series now resembles its own carciatures, like Austin Powers, more than it resembles the Connery Bond movies.
    I started to say that exact same thing, but I have used the word 'caricature' ~3 times in the last week or so. I need to pull out the old Thesaurus and find some synonyms. Plus, I believe I have spelled it in a different incorrect way each time.

    All the believability and any tension in the Bond films went right out the window around the time Moonraker came out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Asher
    A new trailer and you can grab a demo with some new missions.
    Do you think Blizzard was saving the public release of a WC3 demo for this? Interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyjenks
    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Asher
    A new trailer and you can grab a demo with some new missions.
    Do you think Blizzard was saving the public release of a WC3 demo for this? Interesting.
    Maybe, though I think it's more a matter of going after a target audience they might not otherwise hit with game magazine ads and game website coverage. The number of people who will go to a movie primarily to see the trailer and grab the demo has to be small.

    I'd have to think Blizzard is paying a lot for this kind of exposure.

    I have to admit to wanting to see the trailer on a big screen. Could be pretty cool. And the demo for Starcraft was interesting. It had missions that foreshadowed events in the full game.

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    It's a return to the best era of Bond films
    It's funny, this is what they said about the first Dalton Bond movie. They were moving away from the silliness that crept into the series under Moore's portayal and going back to the grittier version of Bond. In addition, they were toning down the smoking and womanizing due to the anxiety of the times. It didn't take long for the over-the-top aspects to work their way back into the series.

    Of course, earlier they were retooling the franchise with Roger Moore's For Your Eyes Only, as a means to make up for the cheesiness of Moonraker.

    I liked the first Dalton Bond, but hated the second. I only enjoyed the first Brosnan Bond, again I thought his second one was horrible. Still, I always enjoyed the Bond movies so I'll probably see this one.

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    Bond has totally gotten formulaic and predictable, and it bugs the hell out of me that they keep making these movies. Dull, dull, dull.

    He doesn't actually "spy" anymore, he's just a overblown action figure.

    They really neutered everything great about Bond when they made him more politically correct. The great Bond movies are the ones when he has a sadisitc edge to him and he just screws every woman in sight with no guilt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Asher
    Another reason to go. From Blues:

    AMC Theatres will be able to take home a free Warcraft III Game Sampler CD-ROM when they purchase a large Coke and a Butterfinger candy bar at the concession stand.

    A new trailer and you can grab a demo with some new missions.
    Yeah, but what do you do with that Butterfinger bar? Eugh!

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    I think Bond "lost it" when they ran out of Ian Fleming books.
    Aside from The Spy Who Loved Me, which I love because I saw it as a kid, I think only the Connery Bonds are worth anything. Particularly Goldfinger.

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    I just can't get past how these films have become such blatant vehicles for product placement and tie-in marketing (sometimes for products that don't even have anything to DO with the film). It makes the whole experience feel sort of like a 90 minute commercial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bub, Andrew
    I think Bond "lost it" when they ran out of Ian Fleming books.
    Aside from The Spy Who Loved Me, which I love because I saw it as a kid, I think only the Connery Bonds are worth anything. Particularly Goldfinger.
    I don't think they've aged well. If you want to talk Austin Powers spoofs, many of the Connery films are closer to that than the Brosnan ones, IMO. I do think Goldfinger is the best, followed by From Russia with Love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Sones
    I just can't get past how these films have become such blatant vehicles for product placement and tie-in marketing (sometimes for products that don't even have anything to DO with the film). It makes the whole experience feel sort of like a 90 minute commercial.
    Well, if the TIVO devices result in more and more commercials being skipped, expect a lot more of this in network TV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Asher
    If you want to talk Austin Powers spoofs, many of the Connery films are closer to that than the Brosnan ones, IMO.
    Well of course they are!
    Myers is spoofing 60's Bond films and "Our Man Flint" with Austin Powers. Connery is also the Bond archetype. Why would he use a 60's character to spoof Brosnan's Bond du jour?

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    I haven't been able to finish a Bond film with Brosnan. Well, maybe Goldeney -- I might have sat all the way through that one, now that I think about it, but I didn't care much for it. (The N64 game was great, though. :) )

    None of the others have managed to catch me, either. I just don't like Brosnan in that role. (And I grew up on Remington Steele reruns. :) )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desslock
    I have no interest whatsoever in the new Bond movie. The series now resembles its own carciatures, like Austin Powers, more than it resembles the Connery Bond movies. I actually much preferred Dalton's Bond to Brosnan's version -- at least Dalton had some of Connery's toughness, while Bronsan has Moore's smarmyness.
    Agree completely.I also think that the great Bond movies were in part great due to the times-they are perfect backdrops to their cold war era,and they do a pretty good job of outlining that era in their own way.The post-Connery Bonds are just more action movies to either like or dislike,and they really offer nothing in the way of period atmosphere.

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    I believe Dalton never even really wanted to be Bond, and it showed in his perfomance. His second one where he goes rogue was just plain bad. Brosnan is a very good fit IMO. His first was the best(The tank chase scene was cool). The second was ok with the Hong Kong female action star in it. The last sucked. No idea why they thought that bimbo 'Wild Things' chick was a good cast.

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    Yeah, like anyone was going to buy Denise Richards as a "nucular" scientist. I can buy Bond driving a jet boat on city streets, but that I could not buy.

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    Dalton was my favorite Bond. License to Kill wasn't a very Bond-like movie, the script sucked but I still liked Dalton's portrayal of Bond.

    Back to the main top. What I've seen of cutscenes and promos of the new Bond leaves me with mixed feelings.

    On the positive side, there's a Bond villain again. On the negative, Brosnan seems to be at his most wooden. It's like watching Harrison Ford "act". Bond seems to be a totally one-dimensional character, with absolutely no variety of expression beyond a cocky half-smile and a few dandy quirks. I like Brosnan, but he's got to do more with Bond than this. In fact, he did, back when he was called Remington Steele.

    While no one has ever accused Bond girls of being Oscar nominees*, Halle Berry is just wrong. Heather Locklear might be a bit old, but she's got more charm in her pinky finger than Halle has in her (admittedly magnificent) body. But if you're going to pick someone solely based on looks, why not just go straight for the top - Laetitia Casta?


    *No, I don't take the Oscars seriously. Anybody who does, try to remind me just what movie beat out Saving Private Ryan for Motion Picture of the Year, off the top of your head.

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    One huge positive: John Cleese as Q.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyjenks
    One huge positive: John Cleese as Q.
    Yeah, but I liked Desmond Llewelyn. And he had the best Q line:

    "I never joke about my work, 007." -- Goldfinger

    And as for the quality of the various Bond movies, there's From Russia With Love and there's Goldfinger, and then there's all the rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Levine
    Quote Originally Posted by Tyjenks
    One huge positive: John Cleese as Q.
    Yeah, but I liked Desmond Llewelyn. And he had the best Q line:

    "I never joke about my work, 007." -- Goldfinger
    He will be sorely missed, I agree.

    The whole PC, non-slutty Bond turn it took with Dalton was more than I could stomach.

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    I think Dalton was pretty good as Bond though probably the most serious of all Bonds.

    I look at the Bonds in this way

    Connery - The scottish rogue type
    that guy in late 60's - seems almost American
    Moore - Londoner high class
    Dalton - almost Irish heavy handed type
    Brosnan - throwback to Moore with modern class.

    etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtkafka
    I think Dalton was pretty good as Bond though probably the most serious of all Bonds.

    I look at the Bonds in this way

    Connery - The scottish rogue type
    that guy in late 60's - seems almost American
    Moore - Londoner high class
    Dalton - almost Irish heavy handed type
    Brosnan - throwback to Moore with modern class.

    etc
    Was that 'In Her Majesty's Secret Service'?

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    George Landry. And although Landry himself is mediocre as Bond, On Her Majesty's Secret Service ties Goldfinger and From Russia, With Love as the best all-around Bond films. Best Bond girl, too.

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