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    Need some editor help - someone selling builds on eBay

    This is not a normal thread, and I appologize if it's not appropriate. Tom/Mark, delete if so.

    First check this out: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ayphotohosting

    Then this: http://members.ebay.com/ws2/eBayISAP...d=snatcha59875

    Who is this guy? He lives in Montana. Do any of you know him? Does he work for you? If so, PM me please.

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    Geez, that's pretty lame.

    I also love the way he simultaneously pimps himself out for more work. "Hey, got any jobs for me? I need some more preview builds to sell on ebay."

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    I found out who he is. If you would like to know his name, PM me please.

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    He has his name in one of his auctions. He wants people to donate $1 to him; in return, he will send people a newsletter and put their names in drawings for promotional items and merchandise.

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    Heh, he doesn't even try to conceal his email address, which leads to all sorts of fun with Google. I am, however, amused by his attempts to resell old issues of various game magazines. I mean, who buys this stuff?

    - Alan

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryan
    He has his name in one of his auctions. He wants people to donate $1 to him; in return, he will send people a newsletter and put their names in drawings for promotional items and merchandise.
    To save everybody the clicking and searching, I'll be the one to point out that he does that at http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=8101364769

    Selling review copies? That doesn't seem kosher. You'd think somebody who would make the claim that:

    Video games are quite simply my livelihood, and have been for a very long time.
    ...would be a little better versed in things like intellecutal property, non-disclosure, and professional courtesy.

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    Video games are quite simply my livelihood, and have been for a very long time.

    "Were my livelihood" would probably be more accurate, I'd guess.

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    Adam, I might know who this is. If I did, hypothetically, I might be convinced to narc his name (hypothetically mind you) in exchange for non-hypothetical builds and preview discs of up and coming Sierra products. Send me an email at thecookiesnatcher AT hotmail.com if you're interested in a deal.... the hills have eyes or something.

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    Wow. I have no problem with people selling their boxed copies when they are done, as long as they are no special promtional or press copies.

    But this is just 100% bullshit. Assholes like this just make it harder for everyone else.

    Chet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Au
    Heh, he doesn't even try to conceal his email address, which leads to all sorts of fun with Google. I am, however, amused by his attempts to resell old issues of various game magazines. I mean, who buys this stuff?
    Ebay was built on that question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Au
    Heh, he doesn't even try to conceal his email address, which leads to all sorts of fun with Google. I am, however, amused by his attempts to resell old issues of various game magazines. I mean, who buys this stuff?

    - Alan
    People collect all sorts of strange stuff, and I assume the mags are his to sell, IANAL but I suspect selling press previews violates civil law at least, although there's always been a market for review copies of books. Still, at least he's one step up from the scrotes who sell CDs of freeware mods on Ebay without the permission of the mod creators.

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    Hmm.. I wonder if my 15 or so cds with various alpha and beta builds of MOO3 are worth more than the retail copy...

    j/k

    This is just utter stupidity here. No one with a clue would try to sell media builds if they had any desire of keeping their job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokust
    Hmm.. I wonder if my 15 or so cds with various alpha and beta builds of MOO3 are worth more than the retail copy...
    If they are CD-RW disks then definitely worth more than a retail copy. Blank disks have value.

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    If you have to sell all your swag on eBay for some spare change, that might be God's way of telling you that you're not a very good freelance writer.

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    Well, I think word will get around very quickly on this guy. He might have a hard time finding work after this.

    /looking for the "stupid a-hole" emoticon...

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    Carlos McElfish is this guy's real name? There must be a better story behind that than there is selling game builds.

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    Anyone wanna buy an old Allegiance beta cd? Dirt cheap! :D

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    Wow, someone's career just went down the toilet right before my eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jakub
    Wow, someone's career just went down the toilet right before my eyes.
    Thresh?

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    I don't get how an editor could have helped out in this situation. You wacky PR people use editors for the strangest reasons. :)

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    I don't get how an editor could have helped out in this situation. You wacky PR people use editors for the strangest reasons. :)
    I think the idea was an editor could tell Adam who this guy was and help them track him down and put a stop to his peddling of golds, etc.

    And perhaps also to make sure he doesn't get any more assignments, dunno.

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    As opposed to a writer? You know how those writers are. If you want to track someone down, ask an editor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranulf
    Anyone wanna buy an old Allegiance beta cd? Dirt cheap! :D
    i'll trade you.. an Allegiance beta cd. i guess a lot of people got those, huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Elhajj
    You know how those writers are. If you want to track someone down, ask an editor.
    And if you want to track down an editor, good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Gallant
    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Elhajj
    You know how those writers are. If you want to track someone down, ask an editor.
    And if you want to track down an editor, good luck!
    Amen to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Gallant
    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Elhajj
    You know how those writers are. If you want to track someone down, ask an editor.
    And if you want to track down an editor, good luck!
    I'm right here, Matt (not that I'm your editor). Now as for the publisher...

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    I'm not condoning this in any way, but how many years after a product has shipped will such "rare memorabilia" be looked at in a different light? There's an entire subculture out there that collects rare games, imports, and oddities relating to old computers and consoles. Some of the major magazines have covered this in detail, along with lists of how much each rare copy of a game might cost. Some of these include previously unreleased preview builds that have somehow been unearthed.

    I suppose it's similar to the argument about abandonware - at what stage does a piece of unavailable software become classed as "abandonware"? (yes, the real answer is "never in your lifetime" without the owners permission).

    It seems that "what's legal" and "what's acceptable" correlate less with increasing time.

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    Uh, the game in question, Flat Out, hasn't even been released yet.

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    Uh, the game in question, Flat Out, hasn't even been released yet.
    I just bought a copy on Ebay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gladguy
    Well, I think word will get around very quickly on this guy. He might have a hard time finding work after this.

    /looking for the "stupid a-hole" emoticon...
    This one?


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