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    The D-Day demo - be warned

    Rumor has it that the D-Day demo installs the Starforce "Copy Protection Helper" drivers. These fucking things actually show up in your Device Manager.

    They install without your knowledge or approval, and from what I understand are hard to get rid of.

    Here's some people discussing it at GG:
    http://www.gonegold.com/ubb/ultimate...;f=14;t=003314

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    I'm somewhat surprised they even show up in the Device Manager. I was under the impression that Starforce et al are starting to install their software as though it were a trojan horse.

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    yeah. its shameful. someone seriously needs to code a 'starforce detector' that you can run prior to installs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffjones
    yeah. its shameful. someone seriously needs to code a 'starforce detector' that you can run prior to installs.
    Or just a dummy Starforce driver that does nothing harmful but lets you play the damn games.

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    I think Star Force is the only copy protection scheme out there that there isn't a hack for yet. I looked in vain for a noCD (or in this case, noDVD) crack for TOCA Race Driver 2.

    Apparently, the DVD duplicator analyzes each DVD as it comes off the press, and prints a registration key that is a signature of that particular DVD. If you don't have the DVD that matches that key, no play for you!

    Odd that StarForce drivers would get shipped with a demo.

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    Don't pirate the demo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Wong
    I think Star Force is the only copy protection scheme out there that there isn't a hack for yet. I looked in vain for a noCD (or in this case, noDVD) crack for TOCA Race Driver 2.

    Apparently, the DVD duplicator analyzes each DVD as it comes off the press, and prints a registration key that is a signature of that particular DVD. If you don't have the DVD that matches that key, no play for you!

    Odd that StarForce drivers would get shipped with a demo.
    How is this possible? It would slow down manufacturing and would require that a DVD and key never get mixed up.

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    Well, as I posted in a previous thread about copy protection, that Starforce has actually been cracked recently for certain titles.

    I believe each game requires unique cracking so that's why it's taken awhile.

    --- Alan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Dunkin
    Well, as I posted in a previous thread about copy protection, that Starforce has actually been cracked recently for certain titles.

    I believe each game requires unique cracking so that's why it's taken awhile.

    --- Alan
    I still find this hard to believe. That's a big expense for a $50 game.

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    Oops! My mistake.

    Star Force 3.0 doesn't analyze the disks as it comes off the press. Rather, it assigns a key to an entire batch of CD/DVD's that are produced from a particular master CD, based on the physical parameters of that master. Apparently, these original physical parameters are lost if the CD is duplicated by any other means.

    The executables and data files of a game are encrypted, and cannot be read unless the key matches the parameters of the CD/DVD that is in the drive.

    whitepapers here:
    http://www.star-force.com/index.phtm...gory=56&type=5

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveC
    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Dunkin
    Well, as I posted in a previous thread about copy protection, that Starforce has actually been cracked recently for certain titles.

    I believe each game requires unique cracking so that's why it's taken awhile.

    --- Alan
    I still find this hard to believe. That's a big expense for a $50 game.
    Which, the already-cracked part or the expense of using StarForce for protecting a game?

    --- Alan

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