Role playing games I have never finished. Possible spoilers

[wildpokerman]

Not finishing role playing games I've heard is the sign of a true role playing gamer, here's a list of the role playing games I have never finished in chronoligical order of when I played them:
1. Bards tale- it was a pirated copy for my commodore 64 and who could figure out how to get anything done without the manual that gave me the spell codes?
2. Pool of radiance in the original gold box for commodore 64- Who knows why I quit this one it was my only decent game and I got all the way to the maze at the end, couldn't figure out which map went where and gave up.
3. Ultima IV this game bored me to death for some reason, gave it up to buy a NES.
4. Romance of the three kingdoms the original NES version, yes I know this is kind of considered a strategy game but it played identical to the role playing games of the time go here fight this.
5. Dragon something for NES run around kill green slime, work your way up to killing metallic slime, got boring pretty soon.
6. Phantasy star for genesis, a friend had it he played for a while I played for a while he beat it and told me the ending so I didn't see a point in playing it any longer.
Fast forward a few years, I didn't own a computer in the years of the 286 386 and 486 and from what I've read I didn't miss much in the way of role playing games.
Next chapter the playstation year.
7. Final fantasy anthology- bought it and started all three games quit shortly after I figured out that I had no idea where I should go, read the ending on gamefaqs for each one and gave up, vowed never to go to gamefaqs.com for a role playing game again.
8. Final fantasy 7, technically beat Seprioth but I didn't do one bit of chokobo collecting or play any minigames so I just cruised through this one in about three sleepless nights. Guess one out of 8 so far isn't bad.
9. Final fantasy tactics- Yes this one I finished too I'm seeing a trend here. Getting Orlandu and cruising through sure helped,
Final fantasy 8- sucking the spell points from the monsters in battle after battle and getting my ass kicked over and over in the card game was boring as hell. Gave up pretty quick here.
10. Final Fantasy 9- sold it in the shrinkwrap for twice what I paid for it because it wasn't a greatist hits edition and for some reason when the playstation 2 was coming out there was a mania for non greatist hits editions on Ebay. Mania seems to be over now. Besides I figured that it would suck as bad as FF8, according to review sites I was wrong.
11. The PC revolution Baldur's gate II, got to chapter three and wanted to start over because I wanted to do all the side quests, you RPGers know what starting over means.. it means you play for half an hour and getting bored because you did all of this before.
12. Bougfht Throne of Baal because I thought it would liven up the original game. It worked for a while but since I never got back to chapter three it was just a side dungeon to me.
13. Arcanum-great game until I got to the city and the difficulty ramped up, got bored of saving and restarting all the time.
14. Morrowind, this game cost me $1600 because it and warcraft III convinced my to buy a new hot system a year and a half ago. I got to the capital city where the god dude at the end resided (DAMN YOU GANEFAQS) and just haven't played for a while. I have also purchased bloodmoon and the other expansion whatever it's called and gotten no benefit whatsoever from them.
15. Divine Divinty- awesome game, unfinished, got to the city and enlisted in the army and killed a whole lot of orcs. On the to be continued list with morrowind and most of the rest.
16. The unopened boxes... Might and magic platinum series, Icewind Dale collection, empire of magic (which I have heard is terribe). May never get to these.
17. Fallout Awesome game, but haven't gotten very far.
18. Fallout installed and played for five minutes, don't want to miss any jokes from fallout and don't wany any spoilers.
19. Diablo-got it in the battle chest with D2 and once I played D2 couldn't bring myself to go back.
20. D2. Yes I have killed Baal, but I haven't been past act three nightmare, guess this isn't a role playing game really so I'll list it as unfinished because it's taken up permenant residence in my 2nd drive.
21. Wizardry 8. Weird and I've liked it so far. Got past the first dungeon and too busy with other games for a while.
22. Neverwinter nights oh how I love and hate thee, the promise of old paper and pencil games coming to life in real internet time. It's actualy a decent single player game with lots of downloadable content. Multiplayer is a bunch of idiots making lame ass kill a kobold and get to level 15 dungeons. In single player I'm down in some basement in chapter two killing some zombies, it's been a couple of months so I don't remember why.
23. KOTOR rocks, unfinished and if history is a guide this game will always be a good memory. I would like to say that in 12 hours of play that this game has given me more enjoyment than the first two movies combined and then multiplied by the number of stupid changes that george lucas made to the original three movies.
24. Disgaea, I'm loving this one. Unless La Pucelle tactics comes out before May I'll be finishing this one.
25. Phantasy star collecton GBA. Yes I bought it because of all the fond memories of not finishing it the first time, I think games have improved 50 fold at least in the last 10 years.
26. Breath of fire II bought it used, won't be playing it until I unlock everything in wario ware inc.
27. Sword of mana. Played and killed a couple of monsters running around delved into it for 10 minutes.
28. Tactics ogre advance- the battles are lasting way way too long about an hour each still slogging through it at a pace of 1 battle a week. I think it could have taken a lesson from final fantasy tactics and halved the hit points on monsters and characters and been just as playable.
29. Final fantasy X and X-2 unopened till I finish Disgaea.
30. Dark Cloud 2 awesome so far love the customizable weapon power ups. I just finished the first dungeon, threw some bombs at the clown and wandered a bit in the forest with the chick with the sword, I have no idea what to do next and WILL NOT use gamefaqs to find out.
31. Baldurs gate and tales of the sword coast, killing some skeletons in chapter three right now...
That's all off the top of my head, I'll add more if I think of any.

By the way don't think the lack of capitalization is a lack of respect for any game I'm just too lazy to hit the shigt key sometimes this time of the morning.

[Jason McMaster]

Sounds like me except you havent beaten gothic 2

[Shiroko]

Do you ever finish something that you start? Or is it noly RPGs?
:roll:
-Shiroko

[Tyjenks]

Every one I have ever owned.

Wait, nope, I finished the original Suikoden and some old PC title Something Something: The Wrath of Nikodemus.

Although, I don't like to call Diablo an RPG and I stayed away from it (lots 'o clicking) until around the time DII came out, I did play all the way through it in about a week.

Shit I miss playing RPGs, but I just don't have the time to dedicate to something that deep.

[Jon R.]

That's all off the top of my head, I'll add more if I think of any.

Hey, let's not. Oh, and by the by, what was your point?

[Mike Hussey]

I never finished any of the Might and Magic games, mainly because I found that I got bored half way through, the reason why I didn't pay full price for any of them. They were good fun for a couple of weeks or so and justified the bargain bin price, but eventually fighting ridiculously high powered monsters with a part of demi-gods wore a bit thin. It's probably the same thinking as PnP D&Ders who prefer playing level 4 or 5 characters to playing some overpowered munchkinised uber-character. Not that munchkinism can't be fun.

[Squirrel Killer]

This hits really close to home for me. Really, it's easier to just list the RPG's I have finished:

1) Bard's Tale 1 - Yes the manual is key, the city map from the box also helps.
2) Final Fantasy 1
3) Dragon Warrior 1 - This is probably your "Dragon something for NES", but if you got to the metallic slime, you actually got pretty far.

[MikeOberly]

Not finishing role playing games I've heard is the sign of a true role playing gamer, here's a list of the role playing games I have never finished in chronoligical order of when I played them:
2. Pool of radiance in the original gold box for commodore 64- Who knows why I quit this one it was my only decent game and I got all the way to the maze at the end, couldn't figure out which map went where and gave up.


That maze drove me nuts,so I finally mapped it out as I went along on graph paper,which is the first and last time I ever did that for a computer game.As I recall,the final battle was a bit anti-climatic,since my party was so strong by that point.

[Jason McMaster]

my step brother and I mapped all of bards tale 1 and 2 with graph paper.

[Poops McGee]

Mapping an old school RPG was like the coming of age ritual for geeks. I remember sitting next to my older brother mapping while he played, and then collecting all the maps in a binder. I couldn't see myself ever doing anything like that now.

[awdougherty]

my step brother and I mapped all of bards tale 1 and 2 with graph paper.

I tried to do that, but I had played through #3 first with the automap and realized it was just too much of a hassle to draw out the maps. I figured it was something a computer should handle for me and I would pretend that my party was drawing the map as I went.

I usually finish games at some point, but often it will be years after the fact that I finally make the push to get through.

That being said, I still haven't finished Planescape Torment, KOTOR (although I know I'll get there eventually with this one), System Shock 2 (haven't even gotten more than 15 minutes into it), Fallout 2, and Ultima 3. Not sure why, but I just couldn't get through Ultima 3.

[Aleck]

The only thing that scares me about that list (and it scares me whenever I review my own game collection) is that, with 30 games on the list, you're looking at $1200 to $1500 sitting on a shelf -- some of which you've barely scraped the surface of!

[McBain]

I finished Phantasy Star II, quite possibly the most difficult RPG I have ever played.

Although, I did use the hintbook. :(

[Jason McMaster]

I finished Phantasy Star II without a hintbook. One of my favorite games ever.

[Saxman_72]

That being said, I still haven't finished Planescape Torment

:shock:

Do yourself a favour and finish that one.

[Mike Hussey]

I'd add the two Fallouts to the 'must finish' list, if only for the resume of what happened to the poor folks whose lives you screwed up during the game.

[olaf]

my step brother and I mapped all of bards tale 1 and 2 with graph paper.
Yeah those were the days. I hated those damn spinner things.

olaf

[Timemaster Tim]

my step brother and I mapped all of bards tale 1 and 2 with graph paper.
Yeah those were the days. I hated those damn spinner things.

Me too! I think I still have the graph paper maps I drew out for the maze.

[awdougherty]

That being said, I still haven't finished Planescape Torment

:shock:

Do yourself a favour and finish that one.

I want to but I can't get out of the damn maze near the end. I stupidly don't have a lot of different save files and all of my restores are within the maze. And I get so sick of that maze every time I fire it up. Maybe I'll just do one of those put a stick of wood in my mouth and bite down to get through it.

Up until that point, easily one of the most interesting RPGs I've ever played.

Never finished Morrowind, only got to level 6, keep meaning to go back.

Not sure if this counts - never finished the NWN mods I was working on. Got a lot of stuff done with them, never finished them... still mean to do that though.

[Ergo]

Tyjenks--

It was Phantasie III: The Wrath of Nikodemus. I actually finished that one.

[RichardC]

I want to but I can't get out of the damn maze near the end.

Maze?

[awdougherty]

The randomly generated maze where the little robots are. You get there when you activate the little robot box doll.

[Skinner]

my step brother and I mapped all of bards tale 1 and 2 with graph paper.

A friend and I did too. We were pretty excited about it too at the time. Best way to have two people play what was a single player game.

[Shadarr]

The list of games I haven't finished is pretty long, including both Fallouts, Baldur's Gate, Planescape: Torment, a couple Phantasy Stars, Dragon Warrior III, and soon I'll probably have to add Mario & Luigi to the list officially.

The list of games I have finished is much shorter: Shadowrun and the D&D game on Genesis, Golden Sun, and Dragon Warrior I.

I have a better record with TBS, having finished games of Civ II, Alpha Centauri, Space Empires IV, Advance Wars 2, Romance of the Three Kingdoms 1-3, but not Civ III.

[-Lord Ebonstone-]

The randomly generated maze where the little robots are. You get there when you activate the little robot box doll.The one that's a parody of other RPGs?

Just keep slogging through it. I'd say you're anywhere from 50-75% done--depends when you activated the cube.

[awdougherty]

Thanks, I actually think I'm not that far from the end at all. I just heard about this robot NPC and decided to go get him pretty late in the game. I really need to get back into this at some point. Recently have been hooked into I War 2:Edge of Chaos, space sims have been my bag recently.

[tromik]

RPGs I finished:
1. Chrono Trigger
2. Freedom Force
3. Neverwinter Nights
4. Phantasy Star I-III

RPGs I want to finish:
1. Anachronox
2. FF X (playing a lot lately)
3. Divine Divinity (playing when I'm not playing GunBound)

[Ben]

RPGs I've finished(since like 1992, because I can't remember):
Breath of Fire
Chrono Trigger
FF7
FFX
Fallout 1
Fallout 2
Uhh. Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance(granted, it's seven hours long)
Diablo II.

RPGs I played enough of that I sometimes think about finishing, in rough order of near-completion:
FF6
Planescape: Torment(yes, I've never finished two games that make my personal top 5. SNES breakage and hard drive failure are to blame)
Xenogears
FF9
FF8
Xenosaga
Morrowind(I played this for like 15 hours but never even accepted the 2nd quest. Go my dollars, go!)
Does Fallout: Tactics count? What about JA2: UB?


I own but have never installed Gothic 2.

The only games I finish are either extremely short or one of the best games ever. Even when a game is both short and good, such as Medal of Honor, I still won't finish it if it contains a difficult part I consider poorly designed. If I can't complain about the design, I'll struggle through it, but if it is cheap or in any way stupid, I rant about how game developers suck and how I could do it better and never play again. Any maze is a good candidate for that response. In fact, I bought, installed, and played halfway through the second mission in Vietcong before this forum's complaining about a tunnel mission made me stop playing.

That's right, the rumored potential for future no-fun is enough to make me stop playing a game I enjoy. I don't even know why I buy video games.

[Ibbz]

Pool of radiance in the original gold box for commodore 64- Who knows why I quit this one it was my only decent game and I got all the way to the maze at the end, couldn't figure out which map went where and gave up.
That maze was an absolute bitch - from what I can remember you actually had to travel through some of the walls in certain places to get to Tyranthxus{Spelt wrong i think} while hoping you didnt get poisoned. I actually found the fight against the 8 champions before the dragon to be far more difficult than the final battle.

[Kalle]

I'm a compulsive gamer in that I feel a need to finish every game I buy, so my list is fairly short, but there are a few games I've never finished.

Chrono Trigger - I think I still have a save at the last boss. I played it that far during a summer vacation and after losing the endless bossfight two times I just shelved it for a while. then came the end of vacation, then came school, work and lots of other stuff. It really should take no more than maybe 30 minutes to finish the game, but now I have the added hassle of actually tracking down the game again.

Final Fantasy X - Never really caught my interest.

Neverwinter Nights - Utterly dull. By now a generic D&D fantasy game will have to pull off something truly spectacular to grab my interest, as I'm fucking tired of Faerun, munchkinism, and D&D rules in general. Neverwinter Nights (the original campaign) felt as generic as humanly possible, and I never even finished chapter one.

[Anaxagoras]

Neverwinter Nights - Utterly dull. By now a generic D&D fantasy game will have to pull off something truly spectacular to grab my interest, as I'm fucking tired of Faerun, munchkinism, and D&D rules in general. Neverwinter Nights (the original campaign) felt as generic as humanly possible, and I never even finished chapter one.

I agree with you about the original campaign... hell almost everyone does. But the campaigns included with the expansion packs were really, really fun. Of course, you have to drop the extra money for them, so... umm... yeah.

As for the player created modules... I've tried a bunch, and just haven't found any that are that good. Well... let me rephrase that. I haven't found any to my liking. Other people seem to get a real kick out of some of them.

Oh.. and back on topic.... I finish every RPG I ever start. Except Wizardry 8, because the damn respawning and ever-increasing-in-power monsters really annoyed me. (I remember quitting when I fought psionic crabs.) And Planescape Torment I never finished. Damn, that game still pisses me off when I think about it.

[Jobe]

That's all off the top of my head, I'll add more if I think of any.

Hey, let's not. Oh, and by the by, what was your point?

You're still doing that?

[curst]

Thanks, I actually think I'm not that far from the end at all. I just heard about this robot NPC and decided to go get him pretty late in the game. I really need to get back into this at some point. Recently have been hooked into I War 2:Edge of Chaos, space sims have been my bag recently.

Finish the game, then tackle the Modron Maze afterwards, if it's that much of a showstopper. You really don't need Nordom if you got the other "hidden" NPC from the prison area - the other guy is even more powerful. Plus he actually has a history with the main character, whereas Nordom is basically comic relief, so he's arguably cooler.

Then once you tackle the maze again, be certain to make a map of it. That's necessary on the hard maze difficulty setting, which is the only place to find Nordom - it's way too intricate to memorize IMO.

[Bill Dungsroman]

Thanks, I actually think I'm not that far from the end at all. I just heard about this robot NPC and decided to go get him pretty late in the game. I really need to get back into this at some point. Recently have been hooked into I War 2:Edge of Chaos, space sims have been my bag recently.

The Maze isn't that hard, if you just have The Nameless One run to the exits real quick, you can avoid any battles except the last one with the Director. With him, you can wage a war of attrition by killing a henchmen or two with your party (I'd have TNO fire spells or whatever atthe main boss, whittle him down some), periodically having someone run off the map to get your whole party out of there to heal up and go back in.

[BobJustBob]

Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter is the only RPG I've ever finished.

[Sebmolo]

In single player I'm down in some basement in chapter two killing some zombies, it's been a couple of months so I don't remember why.

This seems to say something profound about RPGs, but I'm not sure what.

[extarbags]

Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter is the only RPG I've ever finished.

You know what sucks? I haven't finished DQ because I got to the end, just about (the giant elevator), with like 99.97% on the D-counter. And almost no party xp saved up. So I started over, but then I got FFXI, and.... dammit, as badly as I want to finish DQ, I'm having a hard time putting the time commitment back into it.

Someday I will though. Amazing game, just amazing.

[Tyjenks]

Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter is the only RPG I've ever finished.

You know what sucks? I haven't finished DQ because I got to the end, just about (the giant elevator), with like 99.97% on the D-counter. And almost no party xp saved up. So I started over, but then I got FFXI, and.... dammit, as badly as I want to finish DQ, I'm having a hard time putting the time commitment back into it.

Someday I will though. Amazing game, just amazing.

Now only $19.99 at Best Buy for those of you who have not picked it up yet.

[extarbags]

Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter is the only RPG I've ever finished.

You know what sucks? I haven't finished DQ because I got to the end, just about (the giant elevator), with like 99.97% on the D-counter. And almost no party xp saved up. So I started over, but then I got FFXI, and.... dammit, as badly as I want to finish DQ, I'm having a hard time putting the time commitment back into it.

Someday I will though. Amazing game, just amazing.

Now only $19.99 at Best Buy for those of you who have not picked it up yet.

I got it for $9.99 at Circuit City :o.

[Ergo]

Oh yeah? A guy at Best Buy GAVE me the game, plus ten bucks cash! Try and top that!

[Rywill]

The first RPG I ever finished was Wasteland. Since then, I don't think I've finished that many:

Fallout 1.

I came very close to finishing Fallout 2 but kept getting killed by what I assume is the final boss (the guy in the super power armor).

NWN, actually, because I was playing through it with my brother.

Diablo 2 (if you count that), again played with my brother (and some other friends).

I burned out on Planescape (too much reading, not enough decisionmaking or action) and Morrowind (too long with too little plot development and combat that was way too lousy).

[awdougherty]

My first was bard's Tale III, then Ultima 5. Finished them both. Played through Wasteland a million times, love that game.

I finished NWN (official campaign) because I played it through with my brother and a friend. infinitely better that way. Also, it gets better in Chapter 2, for those who never got past chapter 1.

Finally bit the bullet and mapped out mordon's maze in Planescape. Found Nodrom, found the wizard, but couldn't kill him. Do you get anything for killing him to make it worth it?

[extarbags]

I really liked the ending I got when I played Torment. Very existential.

[noun]

Finally bit the bullet and mapped out mordon's maze in Planescape. Found Nodrom, found the wizard, but couldn't kill him. Do you get anything for killing him to make it worth it?

A fair amount of loot, plus a scroll of the Mechanus Cannon spell (the name eludes me).

[curst]

My list, just to piss off Jon R., although I'll put it in a small font:

I'm right at around 50% when it comes to how many RPGs I've played and then finished as opposed to those I've just played and given up on.

BG1: gave up
Icewind Dale's 1 & 2: trying to finish, sidelined in a huge way by Disgaea
Neverwinter Nights and both expansions: trying to finish, sidelined in a huge way by Disgaea
Champions Of Norrath: trying to finish, sidelined in a huge way by Disgaea
Wizardry 8 or Gold or Something: gave up
Star Wars:KOTOR: need to steal my brother's X-Box, I was playing his copy
Bard's Tale 1-3: gave up
Pool Of Radiance 1 & 2: gave up
Dark Queen Of Krynn: didn't want to give up but I've lost the disks
Treasures Of The Savage Frontier: didn't want to give up but I've lost the disks
Ultima's 1-3: gave up (my best friend finished them and I witnessed it, so I finished them vicariously through him, I suppose)
Ultima 9: gave up
Ultima Underworld 2: didn't want to give up but I've lost the disks
The Ultima:Savage Worlds-or-whatever spinoff games: didn't want to give up but I've lost the disks
Daggerfall: gave up
Battlespire: gave up
Morrowind/Tribunal/Bloodmoon: trying to finished but I probably never will because I must complete every little quest I run into, this is the worst kind of game I could have possibly bought because of my addiction to leaving no quest unsolved
Might & Magic's 1-3: didn't want to give up but I've lost the disks
Temple Of Elemental Evil: gave up
Arcanum: gave up
Veil Of Darkness: gave up
Zeliard: gave up
Final Fantasy 7: didn't want to give up but the Windows version is buggy as fuck and I don't feel like repurchasing it for the PS2
Final Fantasy:Tactics: trying to finish (sidelined in a huge way by...)
Disgaea: trying to finish but I probably never will because I'm too much of a levelling-up whore
Blade & Sword: gave up
Revenant: gave up
Darkstone: gave up
Divine Divinity: didn't want to give up but *IT WOULDN'T STOP CRASHING ON ME*
Menzoberrazan (was there a sequel? Do these even qualify? I got about 2,000 D&D not-quite-RPG games in one package and can't remember because I got bored with all of them): gave up
Al Qadim: The Genie's Curse: gave up
Darksun:Shattered Lands (sequel?): gave up
Ravenloft (sequel?): gave up
Eye Of The Beholder's 1-3: gave up
Shadow Sorcerer: gave up
Dungeon Hack: gave up
Nethack, the most common version available now: gave up
Geneforge 1 & 2: trying to finish (GODDAMMIT, DISGAEA!)
Wizards & Warriors: gave up
Empire Of Magic: gave up

All told, if I could recoup the money I've wasted on RPGs I have no intention of finishing, I could buy a top-of-the-line computer. And probably an Aston Martin car on the side.

And now for the games I did finish!

BG2 & TOB: finished
Diablo 2 & LOD:finished
BG:DA 1 & 2: finished
Planescape:Torment: finished
Dragon Wars: finished
Curse Of The Azure Bonds: finished
Secret Of The Silver Blades: finished
Pools Of Darkness: finished
Champions Of Krynn: finished
Death Knights Of Krynn: finished
Gateway To The Savage Frontier: finished
Ultima's 4-8 and all three U7 expansions: finished
Ultima Underworld 1: finished
System Shock 2, assuming it qualifies: finished
Deus Ex 1 & 2, assuming they qualify: finished
NOLF 2, assuming it qualifies: finished
Might & Magic's 6-8: finished (I'm not kidding, I hate these games yet I still finished them, no I can't explain why exactly)
Fallout 1, 2, Tactics: finished
Sentinel Worlds 1:Future Magic (was a sequel ever made? this game was kind of cool): finished
The Summoning: finished
Sorcerian: finished
Final Fantasy 8, 10: finished
Dark Cloud 2: finished
Throne Of Darkness: finished
Nox: finished
Warlords Battlecry 1 & 2, assuming they qualify: finished
Hack, some fairly early version: finished with one character class, rejoiced, that's more than enough for me to be satisfied

[Tyjenks]

This whole thread is worth it simply for curst's comprehensive list. Man, I have a lot of good games left to pick up and not finish.

[Squirrel Killer]

Gave up? Man, I could never admit to giving up on a game. I still haven't given up on FF7, even though I haven't played it in over 2 years and probably couldn't even find the memory card with its saves on it. Hell, I haven't even given up on Bard's Tale II, despite the fact that the bits have probably all rotted away on those C64 disks in my basement and 1541 drive is probably a glorified paperweight. I can't wait until I retire and have time to play all the games I haven't given up on.

[awdougherty]

OK, one more Planescape question, and this is going to kill me if there's no way around it. I'm ready to go to Ravel. I have the portal but I need the blood on the handkerchief. I talk to the prositutes and none of them mention it. So I went to a walkthrough just to make sure I was talking to the right people, and no mention. I also don't have it in my inventory. Is there some way to create it with a cheat code? I'm not starting this damn game over just to get the portal key. Any help would be appreicated. Thanks.

Sorry if this sounds rough, I'm just so frustrated with this game that the magic is starting to fade rapidly.

[derek_hutch]

Because my list of unfinished games is much, much longer than that (I own almost every RPG ever released for the computer, nes, snes, psx, ps2, xbox, gcn, and dreamcast),

here are the ones I have finished:

comp:
Fallout - Three times. I love this game, mostly because it's short and I can play through it in about 20 hours.

Planescape Torment - I had to finish this game. It has the best rpg story of all time and reads better than most books.

Baldur's Gate with Sword Coast - Three times. I love just wandering around in the wilderness and complete all outside maps before going to the city.

Diablo 2 in Normal - With four different characters. Can't seem to get past act 5 in Nightmare.

nes:
Final Fantasy - Three times. My favorite old school rpg.

Dragon Warrior - My first rpg, this game took me almost a year to finally beat.

Final Fantasy 2 and 3 with an emulator and translation patch. Number 2 gave me fits with the level up method and almost couldn't get past the last boss. Number 2 is now available on Final Fantasy Origins.

snes:
Final Fantasy 4 - and again with the 'Hard' Japanese version on an emulator with translation patch. That version is now available on the PSX Anthology disc. This combined the old school explore the world of the first game with the deep story of the PSX games. I love how you start the game as a bad guy.

psx:
Final Fantasy 7 and 8 - I played through 7 twice, on the computer and PSX simultaniously. Just to see what was different. Mostly they cleaned up the translation and made the chocobo mini-game easier. I actually enjoyed the story for number 8, making me an outcast among serries fans.

Xenogears - The story from the begining kept me playing through the end, but I just couldn't stand the last disc.

Wow, that's a short list considering I own almost 200 rpgs.

Ones I've started and fully intend to finish.

Baldur's Gate 2 with Throne of Bhaal. Currently playing right now.
KOTOR - on XBox, just became a Jedi.
.Hack - waiting to get the third and fourth disc at a decent price.
Final Fantasy X - About 25 hours into it right now.
Fallout 2 - Just trying to find a character that I like. I've started at least 7 different ones.
Divine Divinity - Almost done, just not looking forward to the end sequence.
Icewind Dale - As soon as I finish BG2. Already got a party rolled up.

[Mike Hussey]

Neverwinter Nights - Utterly dull. By now a generic D&D fantasy game will have to pull off something truly spectacular to grab my interest, as I'm fucking tired of Faerun, munchkinism, and D&D rules in general. Neverwinter Nights (the original campaign) felt as generic as humanly possible, and I never even finished chapter one.

I agree with you about the original campaign... hell almost everyone does. But the campaigns included with the expansion packs were really, really fun. Of course, you have to drop the extra money for them, so... umm... yeah.



IMO the OC improves as you go on, it doesn't change it into a classic, but the first chapter is the worst part - not a good idea as that's the part that new players and reviewers will judge it by. SOU is the opposite, it starts off well, but the final chapter is so obviously rushed that even the NPCs in HOU joke about it.

[Bill Dungsroman]

OK, one more Planescape question, and this is going to kill me if there's no way around it. I'm ready to go to Ravel. I have the portal but I need the blood on the handkerchief. I talk to the prositutes and none of them mention it. So I went to a walkthrough just to make sure I was talking to the right people, and no mention. I also don't have it in my inventory. Is there some way to create it with a cheat code? I'm not starting this damn game over just to get the portal key. Any help would be appreicated. Thanks.

Sorry if this sounds rough, I'm just so frustrated with this game that the magic is starting to fade rapidly.

I assume you have done all of the Brothel quests and have gotten Fall From Grace to join, as well as most of the quests in the immediate area?

Go back into the Brothel and speak to Kessai-Serris. Ask her point blank if she is related to Ravel. She'll deny it, so go talk to Kimasxi and ask her if Kessai is related to Ravel. Mention to her that she and Kessai are half-sisters. Kim refers you to their father, a Cambion, and tells you to have Kessai ask him. Go back to Kessai and tell her what Kim told you. Ask Kossai for a piece of her (her blood) - make sure you have a handkerchief.

Makre sure you do all you the quests you want and take everythng with you - you won't be coming back to Sigil for awhile.

[wildpokerman]

Planescape torment- bought it in a 2 pack and never got out of the first building.
Soulbringer came in the two pack with planescape torment. Sucked and didn't play for long.

Just as a side note about the money we've spent I'm sure there are people who have seen 300 movies for $6 a movie and gotten less entertainment from them than I have from my RPGs.

[awdougherty]

Thanks Bill for the advice. I did do everything, but it turns out I hadn't gone completely through a conversation thread back in the private sensate sphere area. Once I respoke with a guy there (sells candy), that triggered what I needed.

Then I proceeded to stay up until 5 am pushing through the end. All I can say is bravo Black Isle. That's the first time I've been completely sucked into an RPG since Ultima 7. It easily ranks right up there with Ultimas & and 5 for one of my all time favorites. What a unique concept, story, list of characters, and setting. It all came together beautifully. I know people say that a lot, but this game really had some "magic" where everything comes out as it should to make a fantastic RPG. Unbelievablly well done.

[Bill Dungsroman]

Thanks Bill for the advice. I did do everything, but it turns out I hadn't gone completely through a conversation thread back in the private sensate sphere area. Once I respoke with a guy there (sells candy), that triggered what I needed.

Then I proceeded to stay up until 5 am pushing through the end. All I can say is bravo Black Isle. That's the first time I've been completely sucked into an RPG since Ultima 7. It easily ranks right up there with Ultimas & and 5 for one of my all time favorites. What a unique concept, story, list of characters, and setting. It all came together beautifully. I know people say that a lot, but this game really had some "magic" where everything comes out as it should to make a fantastic RPG. Unbelievablly well done.

The pacing of Planescape is a little odd. Maybe it's just because you get used to the style of the game halfway through, but it seems like the first few Chapters take forEVAR. Then, right about the time you're packing off for Ravel's Maze, you power right on through to the end. Or maybe it just seems quicker, since most everyone who plays ends up doing what you did, and keep going until it's done, real time be damned.

I can barely console myself over the fact that they might never make a game like this one again, but they haven't even come close either. IMO, anyway.

[mutt]

The only games I finish are either extremely short or one of the best games ever. Even when a game is both short and good, such as Medal of Honor, I still won't finish it if it contains a difficult part I consider poorly designed. If I can't complain about the design, I'll struggle through it, but if it is cheap or in any way stupid, I rant about how game developers suck and how I could do it better and never play again. Any maze is a good candidate for that response. In fact, I bought, installed, and played halfway through the second mission in Vietcong before this forum's complaining about a tunnel mission made me stop playing.

That's right, the rumored potential for future no-fun is enough to make me stop playing a game I enjoy. I don't even know why I buy video games.

You and I are on the same page, man. I do exactly the same thing. I can't even count the number of games that have been ruined for me by my fellow gamers (or, to be fair, by my reading their opinions knowing beforehand that they're probably going to ruin the game for me). On the other hand, there have been certain games that even the masses couldn't fuck up for me: Vietcong, Mafia, Halo...

(Incidentally, there's this little feature in Vietcong that those of us who actually glanced at the manual used to get past those supposedly monstrous tunnel missions. It's called a flashlight. Not only does it render those missions much more do-able, but it makes the whiners look, appropriately, like a bunch of fucking idiots.)

muttbunch prepares to be flamed by the fucking idiot contingent...

[Shadari]

The pacing of Planescape is a little odd. Maybe it's just because you get used to the style of the game halfway through, but it seems like the first few Chapters take forEVAR. Then, right about the time you're packing off for Ravel's Maze, you power right on through to the end. Or maybe it just seems quicker, since most everyone who plays ends up doing what you did, and keep going until it's done, real time be damned.

That same pacing tends to be the one I experience when I read a good book. It's as if the during the first few chapters you're trying to get a feel for the writing style, trying to identify with the plot and characters and so on. If and once the book hooks you in, you get so immersed into it that you fail to notice time passing and real life just kinda takes a back seat to the book (or game or whatever it is) that has hooked you in.

I can barely console myself over the fact that they might never make a game like this one again, but they haven't even come close either. IMO, anyway.

I agree and it's pretty discouraging. :cry:

If you have Neverwinter Nights, you might want to take a look at a mod by Stefan Gagne called excrucio eternum. It reminded me a lot of PS:T...

[Anaxagoras]

Alright... that does it. All this talk about Planescape Torment has made me want to finally go back and play through the game again. The first time I played through it I created the one kind of character that simply could not beat the final boss: an evil magic user. You have to fight the good suit of armour if you're evil, and he's immune to magic. So... yeah. It's unfinishable if you're an evil magic user. Angered me to no end when I found that out.

[RichardC]

The pacing of Planescape is a little odd. Maybe it's just because you get used to the style of the game halfway through, but it seems like the first few Chapters take forEVAR.

Well, it helps that everything's much more directly targetted after you leave Sigil - the first few areas are all general exploration of the world, and only when you get to Curst do you really start getting people saying "Right, this is what you're doing next!"

[RichardC]

"Alright... that does it. All this talk about Planescape Torment has made me want to finally go back and play through the game again. The first time I played through it I created the one kind of character that simply could not beat the final boss: an evil magic user. You have to fight the good suit of armour if you're evil, and he's immune to magic. So... yeah. It's unfinishable if you're an evil magic user. Angered me to no end when I found that out."

Do you actually die if you lose that battle? I don't think it ever happened for me, because I had Ignus as an opponent and he was utterly rubbish, but I remember the Shadows just dropping you back outside the Fortress.

SPOILER: The real bastard fight in that one, the first time I played, was Practical Incarnation

[curst]

Alright... that does it. All this talk about Planescape Torment has made me want to finally go back and play through the game again. The first time I played through it I created the one kind of character that simply could not beat the final boss: an evil magic user. You have to fight the good suit of armour if you're evil, and he's immune to magic. So... yeah. It's unfinishable if you're an evil magic user. Angered me to no end when I found that out.

Not quite true, I don't think... I'm pretty sure if you're evil you can avoid the suit of armor completely. Spoilers follow, so highlight the next portion to read it: If you're evil, then simply never talk to Vhailor in the first place. Just exit the prison area without talking to him, and he'll remain asleep there forever. I *could* be wrong though, because when I played as an evil character, I woke Vhailor from his sleep and then slew him in battle to get the XP. So it's possible that if you never wake him up, he'll show up in The Fortress. I just kind of doubt it. Then when I got to the final area, I had to fight Ignus because The Transcendent One convinced him to turn on me. After that the only other "bosses" were the Incarnations and The Transcendent One, and you don't necessarily have to do combat with any of them.

But there's no doubt that playing as a mage, good or evil, is the most challenging route. The real final boss isn't immune to magic but sure can shrug off your best spells.

[noun]

Bummer, Anaxgoras...I played through as a Lawful Good mage, and ended up against Ignus. Poor Ignus - the student never stood a chance against his former master. The first round, I cast Chromatic Orb which at my level simply disintegrated the poor bastard...

I really loved the over the top spell animations in that game. I remember running around buying every spell I could, learning it, and casting it at least once to check out the animation. Anyone else do this?

As for unfinished RPGs - the three that stand out most for me are Ultima 9, Arcanum and Icewind Dale 2. The first two I stopped due to quest bugs that prevented me from finishing, and the last because it was fricking tedious.

[Bill Dungsroman]

Alright... that does it. All this talk about Planescape Torment has made me want to finally go back and play through the game again. The first time I played through it I created the one kind of character that simply could not beat the final boss: an evil magic user. You have to fight the good suit of armour if you're evil, and he's immune to magic. So... yeah. It's unfinishable if you're an evil magic user. Angered me to no end when I found that out.

What, really? I killed the final boss with logic.

[Anaxagoras]

Do you actually die if you lose that battle? I don't think it ever happened for me, because I had Ignus as an opponent and he was utterly rubbish, but I remember the Shadows just dropping you back outside the Fortress.
I seem to remember death being permanent in that battle.... and if it wasn't, it might as well have been. Near as I could tell, Vhailor was invincible vs. magic users, so it didn't matter how many tries you took.

I imagine Ignus would be easy. However, which end guy you fight was determined by your alignment.... evil fought Vhailor, while good & neutral fought Ignus. Evil definitely got the short end of that stick.



Spoilers follow, so highlight the next portion to read it: If you're evil, then simply never talk to Vhailor in the first place. Just exit the prison area without talking to him, and he'll remain asleep there forever. I *could* be wrong though, because when I played as an evil character, I woke Vhailor from his sleep and then slew him in battle to get the XP. So it's possible that if you never wake him up, he'll show up in The Fortress. I just kind of doubt it. Then when I got to the final area, I had to fight Ignus because The Transcendent One convinced him to turn on me. After that the only other "bosses" were the Incarnations and The Transcendent One, and you don't necessarily have to do combat with any of them.


Hmm.. I'm not quite sure why you bother to hide spoilers in a game as old as Planescape, but I might as well follow suit:

I never even found Vhailor in my game; yet I still fought him at the end of the game. You fight the appropriate end boss for your alignment regardless of whether you actually interacted with him in the game. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that you fight Vhailor (or Ignus) even if you killed him during the course of the game.

So anyways, I do agree that Planescape was an amazing game... I just happened to have a very unfortunate end-game experience.

[Bill Dungsroman]

Alright... that does it. All this talk about Planescape Torment has made me want to finally go back and play through the game again. The first time I played through it I created the one kind of character that simply could not beat the final boss: an evil magic user. You have to fight the good suit of armour if you're evil, and he's immune to magic. So... yeah. It's unfinishable if you're an evil magic user. Angered me to no end when I found that out.

What, really? I killed the final boss with logic.

Oh, I'm sorry, you're talking about Vhailor. I wonder if he does show up if you don't kill him (again, with logic) earlier. My hat's off to you for getting to the endgame playing it evil. BIS and/or Bioware games (pre-KotOR) didn't exactly make it easy to be evil.

[wildpokerman]

Just thought I'd add to this old thread that I finished SWKOTOR last night, awesome game, I'm gonna finish them off in order of hard drive space that they're taking up so it looks like Wizardry 8 is next in line.

[-Lord Ebonstone-]

I really loved the over the top spell animations in that game. I remember running around buying every spell I could, learning it, and casting it at least once to check out the animation. Anyone else do this?Of course! I loved the Final-Fantasyesque scroll-only spells that played movies when you cast them--Mechanus Cannon and Meteor Swarm were two that stand out in my mind as being incredibly awesome to cast.

[Jon R.]

Just thought I'd add to this old thread that I finished SWKOTOR last night, awesome game, I'm gonna finish them off in order of hard drive space that they're taking up so it looks like Wizardry 8 is next in line.

GOOD JOB. THIS IS VITAL INFORMATION.

[Dirt]

KOTOR is a great game. I just wish it'd stop crashing my system.

[Dirt]

Just thought I'd add to this old thread that I finished SWKOTOR last night, awesome game, I'm gonna finish them off in order of hard drive space that they're taking up so it looks like Wizardry 8 is next in line.

GOOD JOB. THIS IS VITAL INFORMATION.

Thanks for letting us know that you think it's vital.

[Shadari]

Just thought I'd add to this old thread that I finished SWKOTOR last night, awesome game, I'm gonna finish them off in order of hard drive space that they're taking up so it looks like Wizardry 8 is next in line.

GOOD JOB. THIS IS VITAL INFORMATION.
Well, frankly, next to nothing posted on this forum is vital -- this is a games forum for crying out loud. But I do think this guy is on topic, at least. I don't see what the problem is here... it's not like he's talking about mowing the yard or something.

[Arioch]

I just wanted to add that the pacing of PS:T had me in grips too. From one point on, I couldn't stop until getting through it, and in fact that went to become my longest single player experience in one sitting, it were 20 hours without sleep, food and very little toilet time. Ah, to be young (or jobless) again!

[wildpokerman]

Just thought I'd add to this old thread that I finished SWKOTOR last night, awesome game, I'm gonna finish them off in order of hard drive space that they're taking up so it looks like Wizardry 8 is next in line.

GOOD JOB. THIS IS VITAL INFORMATION.

Thanks for letting us know that you think it's vital.

I sense that this is a sarcastic reply. Since you're playing the role of forum troll I'll give you the response that you so desperately desire and clarify my post.

Since this was a thread that I started about RPGs that I had played and not finished and since this thread had received 70 replies I was assuming that someone may be interested in knowing that I finished another one. Maybe not personally interested but interested enough to discuss either the game I had finished or interested in discussing other RPGs that had been left unfinished or were worth playing.

Is it ok with you if I make on topic replys to threads I originally started?

[Dirt]

Is this a reply to me or Jon R.?

[wildpokerman]

Is this a reply to me or Jon R.?
Jon R.

[noun]

Is this a reply to me or Jon R.?

People still reply to Jon R? Been a while since I saw anything from him, I wonder what he's up to, since he's stopped posting around here.

[Jon R.]

Since you're playing the role of forum troll I'll give you the response that you so desperately desire and clarify my post.

This is what continually amazes me. I can basically tell someone to shut the hell up in 27 point font, and they'll still assume that i want them to keep talking.

It makes you wonder what kind of absurd bastard logic could make something like that hap...

Since this was a thread that I started about RPGs that I had played and not finished and since this thread had received 70 replies I was assuming that someone may be interested in knowing that I finished another one. Maybe not personally interested but interested enough to discuss either the game I had finished or interested in discussing other RPGs that had been left unfinished or were worth playing.

Oh. Yeah. That'd probably be it right there.

[BobJustBob]

This is what continually amazes me. I can basically tell someone to shut the hell up in 27 point font, and they'll still assume that i want them to keep talking.

See, this is the flaw in your logic. You assume that people care what you say.

[Gendal]

Yet you think you are actually going to finish disagae? I understood you perfectly up to that point.

[-Lord Ebonstone-]

This is what continually amazes me. I can basically tell someone to shut the hell up in 27 point font, and they'll still assume that i want them to keep talking.

See, this is the flaw in your logic. You assume that people care what you say.pwnd.

[wildpokerman]

Yet you think you are actually going to finish disagae? I understood you perfectly up to that point.

Yes I realize now that I was lying to myself, right now I'm focusing on playing RPGs in order of space they take up on my hard drive. Looks like Wizardry 8 is the next in line followed by Disciples 2, Morrowind then Deus Ex. I'm not allowing myself to install or re-install anything until I'm down under the 1 MB size.

[Jon R.]

See, this is the flaw in your logic. You assume that people care what you say.

I don't know how i'd get that idea. It's not like people are copying everything i say into another topic or something.

But no, they obviously don't care about what i say when i tell them to shut up. They just care enough to yammer on and on specifically in reply to me telling them TO SHUT THE FUCK UP.

[-Lord Ebonstone-]

Yet you think you are actually going to finish disagae? I understood you perfectly up to that point.

Yes I realize now that I was lying to myself, right now I'm focusing on playing RPGs in order of space they take up on my hard drive. Looks like Wizardry 8 is the next in line followed by Disciples 2, Morrowind then Deus Ex. I'm not allowing myself to install or re-install anything until I'm down under the 1 MB size.Since when is Disciples 2 an RPG?

I don't know how i'd get that idea. It's not like people are copying everything i say into another topic or something.

But no, they obviously don't care about what i say when i tell them to shut up. They just care enough to yammer on and on specifically in reply to me telling them TO SHUT THE FUCK UP.Are you drunk?

[Jon R.]

Was i not clear enough? Do you have hyphens in your ears?

[Scott Warner]

Of course! I loved the Final-Fantasyesque scroll-only spells that played movies when you cast them--Mechanus Cannon and Meteor Swarm were two that stand out in my mind as being incredibly awesome to cast.

These were largely concieved by our producer, Ken Lee, who was a huge Final Fantasy fan. :)

Some of these spells we didn't see until near the end of the project and at the time some of us were really concerned that people would loathe them. I remember Colin and I seeing Meteor Swarm for the first time and having a mixed reaction of "That's cool!" and "That feels alarmingly over the top..."

[Bill Dungsroman]

Was i not clear enough? Do you have hyphens in your ears?Y'know Jon, my dove, my darling, you almost showed some spunk there for awhile. MUSTA DRIBBLED OUTCHER MOUF.

Look! What's that, up in the Post Message Screen? It's a bore! It's a pain! It's...it's...um, Jon Arrrrrrrr! (He's a pirate) Is that short for Jonaleth? The veritable nom de plume of the antagonist of Baldur's Gate 2? Well, I'll tell you pal, you've got us all in antagony.

Heeeere I come to say you're gayyyyyy!

Pardon me whilst I leap fruitily from my horse, my tin armor clanging. Stannum if you got 'em, I always say. Well Jon, I made a silent pact to myself (okay, I was just beating off) to not wreck a thread with pointless textual intercourse between me and anyone, especially you. Those threads about dumb games and Koontz' stats, a blight on the landscape were we. Then I realized how stupid that was, and instead of taking my Inner Monologue and holding it at bay, I went more like Michael Bay. I even have a crazy black person here, to watch me run by after you and exclaim "He goin' to kick somebody ass!" Man, what kind of fucked up thread is this? Oh, just another thread about something or other that Jon hates. Furthering the bile is Jon going fonting crazy, calling out folks at will for thier mind-numbingly tedious facetious posting habits. Why, it's getting so you can tell who the dummies are by virtue of their post text. Well, we all know what that means! It means it's time to play a little game I like to call Who Said That? Bob Eubanks is your host, but he's not interested in your wife's tits this time around. Let's start!

Who said "At least she still has a head (www.quartertothree.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=223964&highlight=#223964)" when consoling JD (and perhpas by proxy, Jason) on their sick and dead cats?

Who said "Since when have Nigerian spam emails been fake? (www.quartertothree.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=219332&highlight=#219332)" as a light-hearted fatuous gag in a spam thread?

Who said "2 out of those 3 can just as easily be accomplished by implementing aquired GunBound skills and aiming just above the waterline. 'Pissing' ladies off with the toilet seat stuff is just plain fun though (www.quartertothree.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=207381&highlight=#207381)" in a really creepy and sad attempt to be funny?

Who said "That took an hour and 13 minutes. Jakub's still got us beat, (www.quartertothree.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=182777&highlight=#182777)" because the bad date thread needed a timekeeper?

Well, I'm sure we all figured out the culprit here. See Jon, you're just as droll, trite, generic, and facetious as the rest of the gang. The funny appendix to this little lesson? I had to dig through 4 pages of JonRchives to find these few. Oh, there were a few honest attempts to talk about group dynamics and porn sharing, but the other 95%? Jon R SURPRISE being an asshole. Oh Jon, I thought you feigned rarity in your sarcastic bombastic assaults? Majority r00lz j00! Maybe you just confine it to Everything Else, clearly the bane of your miserable existance. So, in summary: when you're not being obnoxious, sucky, and boring, you're just being sucky and boring. Truly, a Renaissance Man thou art, and not solely based on your penchant for smelling funny and wearing tights. I present to you the Earl of Patchouli, First Viceroy of Obsequiessia.

Someone mentioned the marvel that a sticky thread of JonRisms would be, but we'll give up the Reader's Indigest version:

Your post is stupid.Your post is stupid.This thread is stupid.Your post is stupid.This thread is stupid.Your post is stupid.My bland sarcasm will defeat you.This thread is stupid.Your post is stupid.Your post is stupid.Your post is stupid.Your post is stupid.I reiterate the stupidity of the subject at hand.Your post is stupid.Let's talk about dicks.This thread is stupid.Your post is stupid.Your post is stupid.Can I have some free porn?This thread is stupid.Your post is stupid.This thread is stupid.

A succint distillation of the Jonster, yea verily. Not listed: the subtext of Jon crying for a hug.

You know what Jon? Busting your balls is the by far the best way I can think of to waste my time online after I've jacked off to a a sexy MILF and had a 12-year-old hand me my ass at Counterstrike. Or is it the other way around?

It's been fun talking at you, as always. Oh, and you suck and you're boring. And the bit about your small penis goes here.

[Jon R.]

Before now i had to copy several pages of weird shit into topics all by my lonesome if i wanted to kill them. Now i've got Bill, the the dastardly arch-nemesis, helping me out with that task. Will wonders never cease?

[Mehrunes]

"That feels alarmingly over the top..."

You mean, compared to the rest of the game? Are you sure you worked on Torment? The one where you can get a blind woman to cut you open and dig around your insides to see if there happen to be any shiny trinkets lying around ("This wet, ropy mass are your intestines..."). :D

[curst]

Since when is Disciples 2 an RPG?

Since when is it not a poor man's Final Fantasy? Battles consist of people standing around, occasionally swinging a sword/claw or casting a spell. It's also perhaps the easiest game I've ever played since Dungeon Siege.

[-Lord Ebonstone-]

Before now i had to copy several pages of weird shit into topics all by my lonesome if i wanted to kill them. Now i've got Bill, the the dastardly arch-nemesis, helping me out with that task. Will wonders never cease?I like it how you don't capitalize your "I"s. It helps me come to the conclusion that you don't deserve the respect of a proper noun, and thus can be dismissed like the suckling twelve-year-old that you are.

[-Lord Ebonstone-]

Since when is Disciples 2 an RPG?

Since when is it not a poor man's Final Fantasy? Battles consist of people standing around, occasionally swinging a sword/claw or casting a spell. It's also perhaps the easiest game I've ever played since Dungeon Siege.Yeah, but isn't it more of a TBS than a RPG?

[Scott Warner]

The one where you can get a blind woman to cut you open and dig around your insides to see if there happen to be any shiny trinkets lying around

There's a big difference between Planescape over-the-top and Final Fantasy over-the-top. ;)

[Reeko]

Hey, I just finished BGII last night!

It was ALLSOME!

[Jon R.]

I like it how you don't capitalize your "I"s. It helps me come to the conclusion that you don't deserve the respect of a proper noun, and thus can be dismissed like the suckling twelve-year-old that you are.

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[Midnight Son]

I still have my hand drawn maps to Bards Tale 1 and 2, the first Wizardry and most of the "Gold Box" games. (Pool of Radiance etc...) I have geek cred!

[garin]

Disciples has much more in common with HoMM than with Final Fantasy. It's a strategy game, not an RPG.