Kerry is a giant whore

[awdougherty]

Maybe I'm missing something here, but as I listen to Kerry's speech after the Wisconsin primary, I can't help but feel like he's doing his usual spiel, but he opened by taking all of Edwards words from the debate and sticking them in his speech.

Obviously he did the same with Dean's words about Iraq and it has me feeling very uneasy about Kerry. The more he walks around, the more obvious it becomes that he's a politician first and everything else second.

I've always been for Edwards, so maybe my bias is getting the best of me, but Edwards came on extremely strong after that debate. Kerry eeks out a win and suddenly sounds like Edwards before getting into his bit. He also dodges questions, Edwards seems willing to answer those pesky yes/no inquiries.

[awdougherty]

He's also borrowing Dean's speech from earlier in the evening. And that "Bring it on!" seems to be getting weaker and weaker. Less people chirping in as he clumsily sets it up.

[Midnight Son]

Even I never called Bush a whore. You're being too extreme! :)

[XPav]

He also went kitesurfing.

Windsurfer that would be president my ass.

[Philomath]

And that "Bring it on!" seems to be getting weaker and weaker. Less people chirping in as he clumsily sets it up.

No kidding. That's getting embarrassing. At least Edwards has some good, new lines, even if they're cribbed from Jurassic Park.

[Anders Hallin]

I'll give my vote to the first one to get "That's no moon" in there.

Not that i have one to give.

[Tyjenks]

I really don't know what to do come November. The more I learn about Kerry the less I like him. He seems to go where the polls tell him from issue to issue. I am tired of his attempting to look like a moderate when his voting record says otherwise. Lieberman is a Moderate...Kerry is Ted Kennedy.

Once again, it will be a vote against a candidate rather than a vote for someone I believe in and wish to lead this country. I guess a vote for whatever nut is running with the Greens or Libertarians will be a nice little one man protest, but I don't think anyone in Washington is changing their ways because of the loss of my vote.

EDIT: Yes, the slogans and catch phrases are nauseating. I think Dean's new one is 2 Legit 2 Quit.

[DennyA]

Tyler,

You live in Alabama. Your presidential vote doesn't matter. All your delegates would go to Bush even if Jesus himself rose from the grave and ran. ("He's a liberal, and he turned water to wine! Drinking is a sin!")

I'm really hoping Kerry says something stupid and this Edwards spike surges more dramatically in upcoming primaries.

[noun]

It's discouraging, because Kerry is pretty much acting like the typical, insincere Presidential candidate. I suppose not rocking the boat is what is perceived as necessary to beat Bush, but dammit, I'm getting worried that this is going to turn into Gore vs Bush part 2.

[Tyjenks]

Tyler,

You live in Alabama. Your presidential vote doesn't matter. All your delegates would go to Bush even if Jesus himself rose from the grave and ran. ("He's a liberal, and he turned water to wine! Drinking is a sin!")


Believe me, I know. Maybe if Kerry said he would deport all of the Mexicans out of Birmingham he could get somewhere. Maybe he could get Hank Jr. to write a song for the convention. Short of Bush getting caught in an affair with a black woman, my vote might as well go to Snoopy as it did last time.

[awdougherty]

I'll say this, Bush is an ugly whore who has to charge less than all the other whores just to get some business.

But Kerry really is a whore. I never liked him, but he almost turned my stomach while I was watching the Wisconsin debates. One of the moderators asked if the people on stage who voted for the war in Iraq bared some responsibility for the outcome. Kerry got first crack. For two minutes straight he dodged the question, talk about how Congress was mislead, how they felt they were voting for something different... the moderator pushed for a yes or no. More dodging. He never said either the whole time he talked.

The obvious answer is yes, at some level they are responsible. That's it. So when the question passes to Edwards, he starts of by saying yes. Kerry is a political coward.

To the poster who feels the more learned about Kerry, the more he's not liked... join the club. Kerry isn't that respectable, he's political jello incarnate.

[extarbags]

I'll say this, Bush is an ugly whore who has to charge less than all the other whores just to get some business.

But Kerry really is a whore. I never liked him, but he almost turned my stomach while I was watching the Wisconsin debates. One of the moderators asked if the people on stage who voted for the war in Iraq bared some responsibility for the outcome. Kerry got first crack. For two minutes straight he dodged the question, talk about how Congress was mislead, how they felt they were voting for something different... the moderator pushed for a yes or no. More dodging. He never said either the whole time he talked.

The obvious answer is yes, at some level they are responsible. That's it. So when the question passes to Edwards, he starts of by saying yes. Kerry is a political coward.

To the poster who feels the more learned about Kerry, the more he's not liked... join the club. Kerry isn't that respectable, he's political jello incarnate.

But Edwards likes the Patriot Act.

[awdougherty]

But does he want to expand the patriot act or extend it? Isn't the Patriot Act about to expire? Is the entirety of the Patriot Act a terrible thing? I really don't know. Would it be less bad if enforced differently with a less asshole Attorney General? Doesn't Congress and the courts have the power over that act? At least more than the President does?

And going against Edwards because of that one issue feels sort of like going Republican simply because you're pro-life. There are a million other issues just as important that the President will be able to actually affect.

[extarbags]

But does he want to expand the patriot act or extend it? Isn't the Patriot Act about to expire? Is the entirety of the Patriot Act a terrible thing? I really don't know. Would it be less bad if enforced differently with a less asshole Attorney General? Doesn't Congress and the courts have the power over that act? At least more than the President does?

And going against Edwards because of that one issue feels sort of like going Republican simply because you're pro-life. There are a million other issues just as important that the President will be able to actually affect.

He wants to leave the patriot act intact, as is, and on the books. Which is awful. Very awful. And don't kid yourself; the President is able to actually affect that kind of thing.

[Jason McCullough]

Edwards opinion on Patriot Act:

http://www.johnedwards2004.com/page.asp?id=223

Wants some parts repealed, some parts reformed. Not sure what he actually likes in it.

[extarbags]

Edwards opinion on Patriot Act:

http://www.johnedwards2004.com/page.asp?id=223

Wants some parts repealed, some parts reformed. Not sure what he actually likes in it.

Kind of vague, isn't it?

I want to like Edwards... he has charisma and sack that Kerry lacks, but... I just can't get past this.

[Kyle Wilson]

I want to like Edwards... he has charisma and sack that Kerry lacks, but... I just can't get past this.

I feel sort of the same. I want to like Edwards, but I have trouble getting past his protectionist stance on trade.

[Raife]

I'm not sure what the problem is. The Patriot Act went through 30 days after September 11th, when the government was looking for ways to protect the country from further attacks. John Edwards was instrumental in getting the 'Sunset Clause' inserted, making sure that it was only a temporary measure (it ends in 2005).

He has said that with a responsible Attorney General, many of the problems we have seen would not have come up. He thinks changes need to be made to make sure people's rights are not being violated, and he's never said he wants to 'leave the patriot act intact, as is, and on the books.' On the contrary, he's been very critical of how the current administration has abused its power, and wants definite changes made.

Here's what he said in a debate in Iowa last November:

I want to go back for just a minute though to this whole discussion about our liberties and about what we see happening in America today, because I think it is so fundamental. First, I want to say that this idea that the FBI is increasing surveillance of anti-war protestors, which Reverend Sharpton just made reference to, is outrageous. What kind of McCarthyism is that?

And, on top of that—on top of that, they have a policy that allows them to arrest an American citizen on American soil, label them an enemy combatant, put them in prison, keep them there indefinitely—they never
see a lawyer, never see a judge, never get a hearing. These violate the very heart and soul of this country. These folks will change the fabric of America if we let them, and we have got to stand up and speak out.

Regarding Trade, he's saying we need fairer trade policies, not trade policies that only benefit the US. The US has a $100 billion trade deficit with China. Taking steps to equalize that isn't necessarily a bad thing.

The alternative to Edwards is Kerry (or Bush), and based on his overall platform, I'll take Edwards any day of the week. I've personally seen him speak seven or eight times. He's inspiring, which is more than I can say for Kerry. Kerry just morphs his approach into whatever other people are saying that sounds good.

[Midnight Son]

Only some provisions of the Patriot Act expire, most stay in effect.

[bago]

Actually, I'm all for a divided government with a spineless executive branch. The fewer new laws enacted the better.

[Philomath]

Kerry is a whore because he's just going with the flow. Does anyone actually think he has any real ideas or principles? He stole shit from Dean that he thought would work, he's stealing populist anti-trade shit now. The guy stands for nothing other than being elected. Maybe that's enough for Democrats.