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djotefsoup
05-13-2012, 06:29 AM
This one is now closed! Go down the other end of the thread for the new one.

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Rise of Flight giveaway:

During the last sale I grabbed 3 copies of ROF Iron Cross Edition (http://riseofflight.com/en/store/demoupgrades/demoiceupgrade), and some extra planes to go with them - the Bristol Fighter F2B (http://riseofflight.com/en/store/planes/Bristol_F2B_%28FII%29) and D.VII (http://riseofflight.com/en/store/planes/Fokker_DVII). Both of which contain two variants and are more or less the best fighters on either side.

Go and download and try the F2P (http://riseofflight.com/tryrof/en) demo, which has all the features of the base game (dynamic campaign, etc) and 2 free planes. Find out if this game is something you actually want and that it actually runs properly on your PC (the 'don't bother' point would be - really anything that is not at least a fast core2quad with a joystick). Read the Qt3 thread (http://www.quartertothree.com/game-talk/showthread.php?t=65129) if you run into issues with it. Then PM me if you want to enter the draw.

Winners will be picked at random roughly one week from now. If you have some doubt as to whether you would get one (is this PM your first post for instance?) then yeah probably you will not win.

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Tim James
05-13-2012, 06:56 AM
I think you should give them away to the three people that post in the thread the most while playing the free version. That way we can get some new people to talk to!

djotefsoup
05-13-2012, 07:21 AM
That's true. We can just consider that the random part then. Could you have won $56 worth of flight sim stuff if only you had posted a collection of photos of WW1 pilots with silly moustaches in the Rise of Flight OT? Can you afford not to find out?

jpinard
05-13-2012, 09:53 AM
For those of you who haven't tried. Do it!!! It's awesome and we can fly together as I'm so bad right now you could easily shoot me down.

djotefsoup
05-14-2012, 08:30 AM
Seriously going to reach Freespace 2/space game-esque levels of despair for the genre if I can't even get people to play the best game in it when I'm offering to give it away for free.

If you enter right now you have a 300% chance of winning.

milko
05-14-2012, 08:39 AM
I am super interested and I really like this kind of gesture! I've been getting vicarious pleasure from reading the thread here too, last WW1 flight game I played was Dawn Patrol in 1994 I think. I only have a core 2 duo though, and not a lot of free time for tweaking. On the other hand, I do have IL-2 Cliffs of Dover working reasonably well (within obvious limits) so maybe it is possible.

djotefsoup
05-14-2012, 08:45 AM
I personally run it on an older style I3 at 4ghz, which is only 2 cores, but quite a lot faster than my old c2d system and probably in the end is about as fast as at ROF as an older style c2q.

I have seen people saying they run it "ok" on a c2d - that being 30-ish FPS, which is about enough for this game, given that lots of the planes are only about as fast as a smartcar. The main performance hit comes from adding more AIs and more AI class types (planes/vehicles/etc). So as long as you don't get too ambitious with adding AI controlled planes I guess it should be workable, and MP is a much lighter load on performance from what I've heard.

It is kind of the reverse of what a lot of other game engines ask of a PC - ideally wants a fast quad core, 64bit OS and lots of video ram, doesn't necessarily give a shit about much else. The F2P version is the same as what I'm giving away, just with only the two free planes as player flyable aircraft, so however that runs for you will be enough to gauge if it's worth it.

Tim James
05-14-2012, 08:57 AM
Seriously going to reach Freespace 2/space game-esque levels of despair for the genre if I can't even get people to play the best game in it when I'm offering to give it away for free.

If you enter right now you have a 300% chance of winning.I thought this might happen. It's kind of like when I tried to get everyone to play Unity of Command: everyone who's interested already owns the game!

You could try writing a front page game diary, but that didn't work for me either. :)

Just hold on to the keys past the week deadline. I'm sure some enthusiastic people will come along eventually

El-Producto
05-14-2012, 10:47 AM
Aww shoot, why not. I'm usually a modern sim guy, but I do love the support this publisher puts behind this title, so why not.

If you are giving it away, I certainly can't say no to that.

I've flown the demo a bit, and it sure is gorgeous. WW1 and WW2 era planes are awesome with TrackIR, nice to be able to look around while you are getting shot down ;)

Mr Bismarck
05-14-2012, 11:07 AM
World War I plane designers are to be commended for how perfectly they place the wings so that you can't see anything. At all.

You can also see an evolution of this design philosophy, from the early DFW which had two wings, a radiator and an engine hump to obscure your view all the way to the EV/DVIII where they only had one wing with which to blind you, but still pulled off the feat magnificently.

This is a seriously good game in both single and multiplayer and people should swamp djotefsoup with entries to win the extra aircraft.

El-Producto
05-14-2012, 11:10 AM
What intrigues me most about these early fighters is from a simmers standpoint the devlopment of solid flying maneuvers. I fly a lot of DCS A-10 and Black Shark 2, and obviously they don't directly translate, but there is something to be said about maneuvering these old birds.

djotefsoup
05-14-2012, 11:46 AM
Well, here's the thing that gets me - this was written almost a hundred years ago -



Dicta Boelcke

1. Always try to secure an advantageous position before attacking. Climb before and during the approach in order to surprise the enemy from above, and dive on him swiftly from the rear when the moment to attack is at hand.

2. Try to place yourself between the sun and the enemy. This puts the glare of the sun in the enemy's eyes and makes it difficult to see you and impossible for him to shoot with any accuracy.

3. Do not fire the machine guns until the enemy is within range and you have him squarely within your sights.

4. Attack when the enemy least expects it or when he is preoccupied with other duties such as observation, photography or bombing.

5. Never turn your back and try to run away from an enemy fighter. If you are surprised by an attack on your tail, turn and face the enemy with your guns.

6. Keep your eye on the enemy and do not let him deceive you with tricks. If your opponent appears damaged, follow him down until he crashes to be sure he is not faking.

7. Foolish acts of bravery only bring death. The Jasta must fight as a unit with close teamwork between all pilots. The signal of its leaders must be obeyed.

And was written within a year of there being a serious air war worthy of the name. Still pretty much the backbone of any solid close in fight tactics.

Harkonis
05-14-2012, 11:50 AM
I would play this if I could get a joystick for it. I bought the game on release, then couldn't find my stick.

Tim James
05-14-2012, 11:53 AM
Aww shoot, why not. I'm usually a modern sim guy, but I do love the support this publisher puts behind this title, so why not.Come on over to the main thread!

Tip: everyone likes crash pictures.

milko
05-16-2012, 01:10 AM
Well, whaddaya know. I just got the free version up and running and had a very quick look at the default quick mission. Just did a low pass over the nearest town and ditched into a field over the river. Performance was just fine! Gotta go to work now but tonight I'll give it a proper go.

spiffy
05-16-2012, 04:21 AM
yep, I'm ruinning it on an aging C2D and it's fine. Loading the main map is longer than I'd like though.

djotefsoup
05-16-2012, 05:12 AM
I run it on SSD and it's not too bad. If you just want a dogfight - there are other maps you can select from the quick mission menu that are much faster to load. Just click the map name at the top right of the screen. The lake map is pretty nice, some good scenery with castles and airfields floating in the middle of it.

Anyhow, glad it works on your PCs. They recommend at least a 2.6ghz C2Q on the ROF site so that's what I assumed would be safe to put down.

At the moment there is still one copy that hasn't even been applied for yet :)

milko
05-16-2012, 05:18 AM
Consider my application applied! Will PM now and attempt to report in the main thread as soon as I do some real flying (I didn't even have the joystick plugged in for Test #1, fairly impressed I got the kite on the floor in one piece (albeit one upside-down piece).

Hammet
05-16-2012, 05:25 AM
Oh damnit. I've stayed away for so long. Soooo loooong. Played the living hell out of RB2-RB3D, the ... Rowan WW1 sim and had a brief spell with OFF. I've got like 20 books on the subject matter, a TrackIR that just gathers dust and for like two years I've been saying that any day now I'll get into Rise of Flight and everything will be magical again. Any day now.

(I'll download and try it out tonight. No matter if I "win" I just want to say that I think it's a mother-beautiful gesture.)

El-Producto
05-16-2012, 05:43 AM
I'm running on a C2D E5200 with a GTX 560 Ti.

Runs great, but load times are a bit long.. not as bad as DCS A-10 though.

Penny Dreadful
05-18-2012, 09:09 AM
I'll enter this giveaway. My connection sucks latency-wise (satellite) so I won't be getting into any MP action, but the game runs fairly well on my Phenom X3, 2GB, GTX 260 system, so I'd be keen on trying the single player stuff.

djotefsoup
05-20-2012, 03:14 PM
http://i.imgur.com/h5mxQl.jpg (http://imgur.com/h5mxQ)

WINNERS

Rise of Flight ICE + Bristol F2B + D.VIIF

Winner 1 - El Producto (first blood)

Winner 2 - Milko

Winner 3 - Penny Dreadful

RUNNERUP

Vyshka (sneak entry via PM) - wins codes for two 2-seaters, the R.E.8 and D.H.4 (from which to drop delicious ponycake (may also contain traces of high explosives))

Everyone should hopefully have their codes in their inbox in a couple of minutes.

Penny Dreadful
05-20-2012, 04:33 PM
Awesome! Thanks djotefsoup! I can't wait to try this out. I'll do my best to document my failures in the RoF thread.

Fishbreath
05-20-2012, 05:27 PM
Don't forget that one more Sopwith Dolphin is up for grabs over in the main thread (or just post here). The S.E.5a is for chumps. Fly a better British fighter.

milko
05-21-2012, 03:29 AM
If this forum has some sort of ranking system then I nominate djotefsoup for a whatever is top of them. Thanks again!

(oh and Fishbreath I kinda feel like I have had my share of the cake already so I won't try to get your kind offer too, I should spend some of my own money on this thing next!)

djotefsoup
06-08-2012, 01:27 AM
Early war give away:

Your choice of

Nieuport 11.C1 (http://riseofflight.com/en/store/planes/Nieuport_11C1)

or

Albatross D.II (http://riseofflight.com/en/store/planes/Albatros_DII)

or

Airco D.H.2 (http://riseofflight.com/en/store/planes/Airco_DH2)

or

Fokker E.III (http://riseofflight.com/en/store/planes/Fokker_EIII)

Respond in this thread and pick the plane you want (there's only one of each). No entry restrictions against previous winners or people who already post in the ROF thread or anything.

Fishbreath
06-08-2012, 04:45 AM
It's not early-war, but I do still have one (1) Sopwith Dolphin (http://riseofflight.com/en/store/planes/Sopwith_Dolphin) code to hand out.

Penny Dreadful
06-12-2012, 04:12 PM
Come on people take the free airplanes before I have to.

Tim James
06-12-2012, 05:21 PM
I own them all! But I've only flown the Fokker E.III so far. It's a hoot.

SamF7
06-12-2012, 11:48 PM
djotefsoup;

Gosh, I'll take the D.H.2 if it's still available.
I've always wanted to know what flying in a bathtub feels like....

SamF7

(Fishbreath, I don't have the dolphin yet if it's still up for grabs.....but I would prefer it go to someone who DOESN'T otherwise get one of djotefsoup's generous gifts...spread the wealth, so to speak...)

djotefsoup
06-13-2012, 12:29 AM
The response is such that I wouldn't feel bad about taking more than one code :)

DH2 code should be in your inbox now.

milko
06-13-2012, 03:32 AM
I think I'd get a kick out of any of these freebie kind offers. Maybe most from the E.III?! Chalk me up as another who feels he's not done anything to deserve such generosity though. Maybe I should promise to record some attempts at doing something fun in them like under-bridge-upside-down aerobatics? I imagine I'd fail that quite badly in all these kites, early war or not.

djotefsoup
06-13-2012, 06:02 AM
E3 code sent :)

Still an Albatross D.II and Nieuport 11 code to go.

Fishbreath
06-13-2012, 06:51 AM
(Fishbreath, I don't have the dolphin yet if it's still up for grabs.....but I would prefer it go to someone who DOESN'T otherwise get one of djotefsoup's generous gifts...spread the wealth, so to speak...)

Like djotefsoup said, it's apparently very hard to give away free simulated airplanes at Qt3, so check your PMs. :P

milko
06-13-2012, 03:30 PM
Just had time for a quick jaunt in my new crate, or "alte Suppe" as she's known in the officer's mess. Quite a temperamental lady! I go from turning on a sixpence to turning very fast indeed in a flat spin and death quite often, so far. Good times!

SamF7
06-14-2012, 06:51 AM
Fishbreath, djotefsoup;

Thanks a TON for the new crates! I now have a dolphin and my very own bathtub to fly!

SamF7

BiggerBoat
06-22-2012, 04:03 PM
I've focused on buying up Allied planes thus far, so I'd be completely keen to grab the Albatross D.II as a start to my central powers collection.

instant0
06-22-2012, 04:11 PM
How is the campaign these days? I mean, is there a dynamic war being played out where you are a little cog wheel but sometimes able to make a big change, or is it mostly "just" a bunch of randomly generated missions and the joy of flight? :)

djotefsoup
06-22-2012, 04:33 PM
I've focused on buying up Allied planes thus far, so I'd be completely keen to grab the Albatross D.II as a start to my central powers collection.

Sent!


How is the campaign these days? I mean, is there a dynamic war being played out where you are a little cog wheel but sometimes able to make a big change, or is it mostly "just" a bunch of randomly generated missions and the joy of flight? :)

It's kind of hard to get a feel for what exactly you're doing and I don't know exactly how deep it goes. Your squad is tracked at a quite decent level - you see injuries, transfers in/out, airframe repair, ai pilots build skill with experience, etc. The war plays out primarily through the introduction of new aircraft and building your pilot and getting progressively better control of what your pilot and squadron are doing. There is a general 'campaign' manager that puts certain units in certain places at certain times and you get a 'recon' overview of what's meant to be happening in the war at the time - where all the squads are and where any particular ground push is happening. Past that you don't really get much feedback - there's not much map persistence I've seen beyond (I think) tracking the damage you do to enemy air squads and the front line never moves for example. Not that it was particularly famous for doing so in the first place :)

instant0
06-22-2012, 05:16 PM
there's not much map persistence I've seen beyond (I think) tracking the damage you do to enemy air squads and the front line never moves for example. Not that it was particularly famous for doing so in the first place :)

Aye. I'm kinda looking for something like Eurofighter from DID or the old F-29 "arcade" game where it seemed that the campaign would move the front line based somewhat on your performance. Would love to play a wargame where it felt like there was an actual war going on. Think one of the F16 games on the AMiGA had a campaign like that, but didn't really see how deep it went back then.

But I guess with the flight side pretty nailed down, all they need is to create W.O.P.R :)

djotefsoup
06-22-2012, 05:27 PM
Yep, I love all that stuff and I would love to see them do it. But I'm not sure there's quite so much payoff for the work it would require. There was almost zero measurable effect (indeed, everything kept ramping up further) from much heavier explosive loads of artillery than you could carry on a plane, right up until the very last months of the war. There wasn't anywhere near the same dependence on infrastructure that you see today. So the difference between making things appropriately persistent and not bothering at all is something you'd probably have great difficulty in noticing unless you went looking around in free cam.

djotefsoup
08-17-2012, 01:37 AM
OK so I am sick of looking at the N.11 plane key sitting there unused, so, the remaining plane will be given away with a copy of Rise Of Flight Iron Cross Edition (http://riseofflight.com/en/store/demoupgrades/demoiceupgrade) which has another 7 something planes as well.

First PM first served gets the keys for both.

(ed - of course, now someone wants the plane :P so there is now just an ICE key to go)

(ed - all keys gone for now!)