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Strato

06-06-2011, 06:06 PM

FarCry 1 still looks pretty good with everything maxed out, actually. Not as textured as a newer game would be, but not bad at all.

Though I do need to go find one of those "save anywhere" mods. I'd forgotten about the savepoint system.

I always used the console. The fact that I had to do it all manually made me try and tough out the situation more frequently rather than resorting to my get out of jail for free quick load hotkey.

Oh, the commands are:

\LOAD_GAME [Gamename] - Loads a previously saved game with the given Gamename.
\SAVE_GAME [Gamename] - Saves the current game with the given Gamename. Use LOAD_GAME to load this game. Can be used for Quicksaving outside of the automatic save points.

You are right, the original Far Cry does hold up surprisingly well. I'd play it except for the Trigens. Fuck them.

Rob_Merritt

06-06-2011, 06:34 PM

Awesome, I hope this means it will be more like the first Far Cry. Of the 5 "Cry" games released, the first one was the only one I loved.

Two Sheds

06-06-2011, 06:40 PM

Kind of disappointed that it's going back to the jungle, just because I liked the setting of Far Cry 2 so much. I'll probably still buy it day 1, though.

Wholly Schmidt

06-06-2011, 06:51 PM

I know I shouldn't judge at this point, but I was really hoping we'd get a refinement of Far Cry 2 instead of another new direction for the series. I'll keep my eye on this, but Far Cry 2 is one of my favorite shooters, even with all it's weird sorta broken aspects. Moving away from that at all is a little disappointing.

Disconnected

06-06-2011, 06:59 PM

Kind of disappointed that it's going back to the jungle, just because I liked the setting of Far Cry 2 so much. I'll probably still buy it day 1, though.

I'm kind of disappointed it doesn't take place in the arctic. I mean, it's FC. The only recognisable bits are supposed to be shooting & first person perspective. Right? :p

Warning

06-06-2011, 07:36 PM

You are right, the original Far Cry does hold up surprisingly well. I'd play it except for the Trigens. Fuck them.

Fuck them indeed. FC2 was a much better game.

RyanMichael

06-06-2011, 08:20 PM

Far Cry 2 was about 20 times better than the first one. If there's any game this should draw from, it's the sequel.

Sarkus

06-06-2011, 08:23 PM

Funny how the crappy savepoint system is already pissing me off. Thanks for saving right before a moment I have no chance of escaping without serious damage!

Blech.

Resonance

06-06-2011, 08:26 PM

Glad to see some FC2 love here. I generally only see pissing and moaning when that game gets mentioned. I thought it was amazing and unique.

If they can combine the best aspects of the previous 2 games, this could be something really special.

Brad Grenz

06-06-2011, 08:41 PM

Early frontrunner for game of show?

Tim James

06-06-2011, 08:42 PM

One thing I immediately took away from the trailer is that the voice acting is markedly better than the last game. Doesn't take much to do that though.Haha, I immediately keyed in on the bad guy to listen for that. He still had a few sentences that were rapid fire. But he's Hispanic so it makes sense, right? Er..

Blips

06-06-2011, 08:56 PM

TurinTur

06-06-2011, 11:59 PM

Thanks god it seems more like Far Cry 1 than the crappy sequel.

Lh'owon

06-07-2011, 12:38 AM

Thanks god it seems more like Far Cry 1 than the crappy sequel.

Oh no you didn't! FC2 was ace, anyone who thinks differently is a beautiful, wonderful, and entirely wrong person.

Was a little underwhelmed by the setting at first, having loved Africa so much, but watching it again made me pretty excited. It looks to have the same frenetic action as FC2, not to mention the lush world. Great bad guy too. The shot indicator thing is too jarring to my eyes, and not completely sold on the knife play and cover mechanics, but otherwise I'm all over this.

Only thing conspicuously absent is FIRE. Love fire. So much.

TurinTur

06-07-2011, 12:48 AM

Oh no you didn't! FC2 was ace, anyone who thinks differently is a beautiful, wonderful, and entirely wrong person.

Was a little underwhelmed by the setting at first, having loved Africa so much, but watching it again made me pretty excited. It looks to have the same frenetic action as FC2, not to mention the lush world. Great bad guy too. The shot indicator thing is too jarring to my eyes, and not completely sold on the knife play and cover mechanics, but otherwise I'm all over this.

Only thing conspicuously absent is FIRE. Love fire. So much.

Yeah, i am going to trust the word of someone who thinks the bad guy was "great". The bad guy was the worst thing of the trailer.

Sarkus

06-07-2011, 12:52 AM

FarCry 2 still looks damn good, by the way. I ended up playing around with it instead of the first game.

Lh'owon

06-07-2011, 01:01 AM

Yeah, i am going to trust the word of someone who thinks the bad guy was "great". The bad guy was the worst thing of the trailer.

Only because the rest was so AWESOME, zing! Luckily it would be mental to trust someone else's opinion about a game you've played, so we can agree to disagree.

christopher

06-07-2011, 01:07 AM

I wouldn't mind some more Far Cry 2, but they have to do something about the checkpoints. I don't care how "empty" the game world gets, it's just disheartening to leave one of the checkpoints lying in ruin only to come back five minutes later and find it completely rebuilt and restaffed.

Lh'owon

06-07-2011, 01:13 AM

I personally came to terms with that, but I agree it wasn't great design. I think having more emphasis on cross-country hiking would be sweet, with enemy foot patrols (perhaps the odd helicopter that can catch you in the open?) and camps in certain areas - take out the camp and the area will be safer for decent amount of time.

Mind Elemental

06-07-2011, 03:16 AM

That mohawk guy in the demo looks like a Raider who ran out of the Capital Wasteland one step ahead of the Lone Wanderer.

I'm actually pretty disappointed by the setting. FC2 promised a grounded, "real world" setting (African civil war) rather than the typical thinly veiled setup for the Adventures of Angry McShootsalot. Its gameplay (absence of a faction system or NPC interaction outside the towns) didn't live up to the theme, from my limited time with the game, but I still really liked the attempt.

TurinTur

06-07-2011, 03:27 AM

It all depends if FC3 goes with a FC1 design or a FC2 design.

If they use the FC2, well, FC2 idea was great, the execution wasn't there. It was a too much ambitious design for Ubisoft mens.
Things they would have to improve in that case:

-NPCs, they need to improve their presentation, dialogue and influence in the gameplay. It was really clunky and fake how they decided to help you and how magically appeared when you were wounded.
-Exploration, it needs to be more organic, more like Stalker, instead of searching the diamonds to exchange for some unlocks. Felt unnatural and arbitrary, and made the exploration less fun (it's better to find some special ammo or a unique weapon than the same diamond case).
-Faction war. Implement one this time if your fiction and your dialogue says there is one. It also will make the gameplay more interesting and the missions more dynamic.
-Respawn of enemies / checkpoints. Nuff said. I don't say there can't be respawn, but it needs to be more "hidden" and less annoying.
-Less repetitive / cookie cutter side missions.

Juste

06-07-2011, 04:27 AM

Looks like i need to go back and finish FC2. I got stuck on a gamebreaking bug but i suspect that it was due to a dying Xbox so I'll give it another shot.

Brian Rucker

06-07-2011, 04:33 AM

FC1 didn't even get my attention. FC2 showed me a very interesting world to truck around in but as others have noted it needed more with factions. Hey, guys, I'd check out what a Turkish couple did in a little game called Mount & Blade if you want to see how factions are done right in an open world.

FC2 + dynamic open world ala M&B = sale.

Otherwise...we'll see. I've got too many games and too little time as it is.

Shellfishguy

06-07-2011, 04:38 AM

I'm happy to see its coming, but I was also hoping for more in Africa. I kinda hope that the mohawk guy isn't the big baddy, talking to him over and over would drive me insane. And you do know the definition of insanity right?

One thing that stood out was all the enemies wearing the red head wraps. First thing it made me think of was the red shirt enemies in the Jagged Alliance games heh.

Strato

06-07-2011, 04:47 AM

I've yet to finish Far Cry 2. I am close, yet I have no particular will to get to the end. On the other hand, despite the Trigens, I have finished the original Far Cry and gladly went back for a second go. Far Cry 2 is by no means a bad game in my opinion, but I think the original was more enjoyable.

Far Cry 2 presented this lovely world that did what it realistically could to provide a "fully immersive" experience. Trouble is, little things broke that experience. Pull up the map, and bam, 1/3 of my screen is gone looking at my map. Why couldn't I walk around with the scope and not have the map in my hand. Waist high rocks that I couldn't scramble up. Stealth that felt like a missed oppurtunity. It felt too much like a serious shooter, and lost the gamey elements - I reached a point where I stopped having fun as the story dragged its feet along begrudgingly with mindless boring missions that meant nothing to me.

More of note to me is the malaria thing. I know malaria, I have diagnosed many people now with it when I see their blood results and look down the microscope. If the protagonist had malaria, he wouldn't be casually walking around shooting peeps and taking the odd bullet wound - there is a good correlation between malaria infection and people having a reduced count of the cell's in blood (platelets) which assist in the clotting process, not to mention the acute anaemia that goes with malaria infection as well. That really broke it for me.

dermot

06-07-2011, 04:51 AM

Looks like i need to go back and finish FC2. I got stuck on a gamebreaking bug but i suspect that it was due to a dying Xbox so I'll give it another shot.
I put my disk into my 360 the other day and it wouldn't load the game - I think the disk is scratched. Time to break out the toothpaste! (Or shell out €10 for a second-hand copy if all else fails).

Delta

06-07-2011, 05:04 AM

Did you update? Mine was completely corrupted until I downloaded an update when it worked a treat.

dermot

06-07-2011, 05:07 AM

Did you update? Mine was completely corrupted until I downloaded an update when it worked a treat.
It's not offering to update it - that normally happens once the 360 starts launching the game, doesn't it? The disk is definitely scratched, though I'm not sure how.

Delta

06-07-2011, 05:53 AM

Yup. This was a while back for me.

Telefrog

06-07-2011, 06:02 AM

Just watched the trailer. Could there be more scripted events?

BleedTheFreak

06-07-2011, 06:25 AM

More of note to me is the malaria thing. I know malaria, I have diagnosed many people now with it when I see their blood results and look down the microscope. If the protagonist had malaria, he wouldn't be casually walking around shooting peeps and taking the odd bullet wound - there is a good correlation between malaria infection and people having a reduced count of the cell's in blood (platelets) which assist in the clotting process, not to mention the acute anaemia that goes with malaria infection as well. That really broke it for me.

Yeah, Far Cry 2 definately fails as a Malaria simulator. I guess. :)

Veefy

06-07-2011, 06:29 AM

I wanted to like Far Cry 2 but found it too frustrating. It was also very disappointing that it didn't get much support post release, if they had released some of the tools to the modding community they might have been able to fix some of the gameplay balance issues of the single player game.

Anyway the trailer looked good in the areas of improvement in the presentation and gunplay over Far Cry 1.

Tony M

06-07-2011, 06:41 AM

Its bizarre seeing points (eg +15) appear over enemies as you kill them. I had no problem with points appearing on the screen in Borderlands, but that was a totally different beast. Far Cry 2 worked so hard for complete immersion.

Yeah I'm sure you can turn the points off in the options menu, but its still a disturbing change of direction. I loved Far Cry 2.

Tony

Rock8man

06-07-2011, 06:43 AM

I'm not sure what to think of the game from that presentation. So many scripted moments, I definitely got a vibe closer to Far Cry 1 than Far Cry 2's more open-ended dynamic gameplay.

If it's just another scripted shooter with "wider corridors" like Far Cry 1, Crysis 1 (haven't played Crysis 2 yet, but I've heard that's also similar), then I'm not all that interested in Far Cry 3.

Tim James

06-07-2011, 06:59 AM

It's the introduction. The one in Far Cry 2 was completely scripted as well.

Rock8man

06-07-2011, 07:02 AM

It's the introduction. The one in Far Cry 2 was completely scripted as well.

Source?

Or are you assuming that the rest of the game won't be like that? It is true, Far Cry 2's intro was pretty scripted too. Hopefully you're right. But it could be a return to wide corridors like in Far Cry 1.

ceolstan

06-07-2011, 07:04 AM

I'm in. What are the specs and how much do I have to spend to build the machine that will play this in all its glorious blood-spattering, high-res pixels?

I loved FC1, though I agree that the Trigens were dumb, and I hated the final boss fight for being a cheat. Whoever wrote the story should be condemned to live it, complete with stupid save points. However, there was a lot of awesome in the game. The enemy AI was preternaturally amazing. How the hell could they hear me a half an island away? I stealthed my way through most of the game, but only because I was new to shooters and a lousy shot. Also, any game that allows you to use rocks as weapons is by definition awesome.

I had a great time with FC2. It was a totally different game experience, which made sense because even though it had the same name, it was developed by a different company. While I agree the checkpoint respawns were annoying, I liked the African setting and thought that the moral ambiguity of the game was extremely intriguing, though the choice at the end felt extremely forced.

While the FC3 trailer certainly has a ton of scripted events, it reminds me of the opening of FC2, which itself is heavily scripted. I'd expect fewer scripted events once the game gets under way. I will, however, very much look forward to killing Mr. "The Definition of Insanity."

Tim James

06-07-2011, 07:13 AM

Source?Far Cry 2 was a lesson in the difference between what was said in developer interviews and reviews and pre-release videos versus the actual gameplay experience.

All I'm saying is for this series and developer in particular it's risky to jump to conclusions until the game is out and playable. But it sure looked like an obvious intro section to me.

Tony M

06-07-2011, 07:30 AM

I liked the African setting and thought that the moral ambiguity of the game was extremely intriguing,

Moral Ambiguity? I thought the protagonist of Far Cry 2 was a ruthless mercenary bastard who profited from other peoples misery. He felt more evil to me than a "Dark Side" character in KOTOR, who was more of the "twirl mustache and tie damsel to the railway track" brand of evil.

Tony

Matt Bowyer

06-07-2011, 07:34 AM

I have not played Far Cry or Far Cry 2, but the trailer for FC3 has me interested. I poked fun at it while I watched ("Why did you switch to the bad gun once everyone started shooting you?!"), but I liked it. I will keep watching this one. And maybe explore one of the past games in the series now that it's cheap!

Tony M

06-07-2011, 07:47 AM

Definitely try Far Cry 2. You might love it or hate it, but $10 (sale price) to try a truly ambitious game? Bargain.

MSUSteve

06-07-2011, 07:49 AM

I absolutely loved Far Cry 2, so assuming that Far Cry 3 is retaining that open world thing that Far Cry 2 had going for it, I'm in. I wish they hadn't gone back to the jungle though. I really liked the African savannah setting and would liked to have seen something similarly unexpected for the setting of Far Cry 3.

ceolstan

06-07-2011, 12:23 PM

Moral Ambiguity? I thought the protagonist of Far Cry 2 was a ruthless mercenary bastard who profited from other peoples misery. He felt more evil to me than a "Dark Side" character in KOTOR, who was more of the "twirl mustache and tie damsel to the railway track" brand of evil.

Tony
Agree but also disagree.

There is no way to survive in that game world other than by being an amoral, ruthless bastard. I'm not sure the player character starts from that place, though. The player character was recruited to assassinate The Jackal, the arms dealer responsible for selling weapons to both sides of a bloody African civil war. Within the morality of the arguably "good" end justifying the questionable means, the player character's original mission could be seen as "good" in that it would help bring stability back into the lives of the people.

However, once things go horribly wrong, the tenuousness of the end justifying the means becomes a central part of the story. The player character, left without resources, clings to his original objective as his only lifeline. In order to achieve that objective, though, what was originally a relatively clean assassination becomes a series of actions that send the player deeper and deeper into a moral nihilism where increasingly heinous acts have no meaning other than to advance a goal that also becomes meaningless. The ending asks what one might do when one realizes the moral cost of pursuing the end without regard to the means. Ultimately, the writing at the end isn't quite up to the task, but the journey through the game is interesting, and overall quite sobering.

Cormac

06-07-2011, 01:53 PM

Bill Dungsroman

06-07-2011, 01:56 PM

Sarkus

06-07-2011, 02:14 PM

This is a joke post, right? Please tell me this is a joke post.

I don't think it is. Apparently Strato was ok with the use of needles found throughout the gameworld to restore health and the use of pliers to pull intact bullets out of open wounds. But the way they handled malaria, that was totally unrealistic!

;-)

Sarkus

06-07-2011, 02:19 PM

So Crytek set Far Cry on a jungle island and later, after parting ways with Ubi, set their unofficial sequel Crysis in the same location. Then Ubisoft, probably with the aim of setting it apart from Cryteks new game, decided to head to Africa with their official sequel.

However only now that Crytek has abandoned the island setting and headed to NY, Ubisoft seems to have decided that it was safe to head back to the island again...?

I'm not sure why this is a bad thing, though. A lot of people, myself included, thought the worst thing about FarCry was the Trigens. Crytek repeated that mistake by giving us aliens it Crysis 1 and 2. Meanwhile, we really just wanted a good open world FPS where you fought decent AI enemies in interesting areas/levels (the carrier part in FarCry is still one of my favorite FPS segments ever) like what FarCry had in the non-Trigen levels. FarCry2 tried to do that, but set it in Africa, and there were complaints about that. By going back to an island and (hopefully) avoiding the sci fi, FarCry3 has the potential to the best of the group.

Universal Leader

06-07-2011, 02:25 PM

The trailer looked a lot more like Far Cry than Far Cry 2, which is a damn shame.

Far Cry 2 is one of the best game experiences I've ever had. That game gave me so many mini-stories, most of them involving fire, explosions, or unintentionally running myself over with a jeep.

Marcin

06-07-2011, 03:51 PM

Hagbard Celine

06-07-2011, 05:30 PM

Far Cry 1 was pretty good up until you started fighting these little mutated monkey things. Then it started to suck. I never really got very far past that point which I think was probably still fairly early in the game.

Far Cry 2, which I picked up during the recent steam sale, is pretty good with a few exceptions. I'm really conflicted about this game because I find myself liking it a lot despite what seem like pretty glaring flaws.

During the intro it seems like the developers are preparing to drop you into this living world with its own political factions vying for control and are positioning you as just another merc in country who may or may not help tip the scales one way or the other. You see armed guys rounding people up and forcing them against a wall, etc. You also see your driver bribe his way through the checkpoint you reach. All of this suggests the game you are about to play is going to be this very involved kind of RPG type affair.

Then the actual game starts and it's nothing like that at all. You really are just another merc in country and ultimately your actions will probably not change a whole lot of anything, which actually is kind of cool since every game just about has you playing as the only force for change in whatever environment the game takes place in. It's nice to have a sense of you just being another person in a bigger world. But the world itself is devoid of literally anything that would make it meaningful except for the player's actions and the little mini-stories the player can tell themselves while gallivanting around Africa.

Basically for a game that seemed like it was going to be about hard choices there are really only two choices: shoot and get shot. It is literally you vs. Africa, non-stop throughout. No NPCs aside from quest-givers, nothing really that fleshes out the world. It's all just "go here and kill these people" for twenty hours or however long it takes to complete.

All that said, I've played it about twelve hours or so now and I really enjoy it even though it seems like there is a lot of wasted potential here. The shooting feels really good and the open world is gorgeous, even though the developers don't really do anything with it except use it to stash a bunch of diamonds for the player to find. I love exploring the world because it is just a beautiful place to be in. I like how things constantly go wrong but I still manage to stumble backwards into success regardless. I love how the game flirts with hardcore bodily-awareness. Though the inconsistency of being able to see your body only at certain times and not all the time is probably the biggest thing that irks me. After an hour of playing I was able to get over the fact that Far Cry 2 wasn't actually the game that intro was suggesting it would be. However, seeing the player loot a body for money and weapons in the Far Cry 3 video has me excited that maybe that game will realize some of Far Cry 2's lost potential.

Sarkus

06-07-2011, 05:50 PM

Far Cry 1 was pretty good up until you started fighting these little mutated monkey things. Then it started to suck. I never really got very far past that point which I think was probably still fairly early in the game.

The interesting thing is that the trigens are only present in about half of the levels after you first meet them. There are some nice areas where all you do is fight human opponents, which is where FarCry is at its best. You just have to grind through the other levels to get to them.

Foxstab

06-07-2011, 08:53 PM

Looks lovely.
But...is it fun to play?

Aristophan

06-07-2011, 10:12 PM

Far Cry 2 had a wonderful sense of space. It's one of the few games that I can think back and recall specific locations like I recall places in the real world.

Far Cry 3 needs that. And fire. Lots of fire.

Sapper Gopher

06-07-2011, 10:42 PM

Agree but also disagree.

There is no way to survive in that game world other than by being an amoral, ruthless bastard. I'm not sure the player character starts from that place, though. The player character was recruited to assassinate The Jackal, the arms dealer responsible for selling weapons to both sides of a bloody African civil war. Within the morality of the arguably "good" end justifying the questionable means, the player character's original mission could be seen as "good" in that it would help bring stability back into the lives of the people.

However, once things go horribly wrong, the tenuousness of the end justifying the means becomes a central part of the story. The player character, left without resources, clings to his original objective as his only lifeline. In order to achieve that objective, though, what was originally a relatively clean assassination becomes a series of actions that send the player deeper and deeper into a moral nihilism where increasingly heinous acts have no meaning other than to advance a goal that also becomes meaningless. The ending asks what one might do when one realizes the moral cost of pursuing the end without regard to the means. Ultimately, the writing at the end isn't quite up to the task, but the journey through the game is interesting, and overall quite sobering.

Another theory: the "storytellers" at Ubisoft have no clue what the hell they're doing. My journal at the start of the game: "I'm here to terminate the Jackal, the bastard supplying both sides of this brutal conflict for profit." Guy who gives you mandatory mission at midway point of the game: "Crikey, the two factions are about to sign a ceasefire, which would put us out of work. Go do a false flag op to keep the war going!". Player: "Okay!".

Truly a chilling, and baffling, journey into the heart of darkness.

Sapper Gopher

06-07-2011, 10:44 PM

That trailer was pretty lame, but at it least it got me psyched up about the possibility of killing Mr. Insanity.

Quitch

06-08-2011, 01:19 AM

Far Cry 2 was amazing, I spent 70+ hours traipsing around the North map, hunting down diamonds, blowing shit up, running stealth missions at night. It told so many stories and it was the first time a collection game felt worth it because the map was gorgeous to behold and a joy to explore. Every area has its own character and every battlefield was different.

I would have loved to see the concept developed further to give the world itself more life.

Oddly, Just Cause 2 did nothing for me. Neither did Red Faction Guerilla. I think it's partly the great map in Far Cry 2, but also that the shooting was so much tighter than those other two. Oh, and it was an FPS so +100 for being immersive.

06-08-2011, 01:37 AM

FarCry2 tried to do that, but set it in Africa, and there were complaints about that. By going back to an island and (hopefully) avoiding the sci fi, FarCry3 has the potential to the best of the group.

Were there really complaints about setting FC2 in Africa? I thought the setting was one major thing most people liked, and the idiocy of the AI and respawning checkpoints was what pissed everyone off?

Quitch

06-08-2011, 01:40 AM

06-08-2011, 02:22 AM

I think it was more the checkpoint behaviour where they'd be crazed lemmings as soon as they caught a glimpse of your car. Bastards to get rid of too.

Hal9000

06-08-2011, 03:46 AM

I thought that the knife throw looked a little wonky.

dermot

06-08-2011, 04:10 AM

I think it was more the checkpoint behaviour where they'd be crazed lemmings as soon as they caught a glimpse of your car. Bastards to get rid of too.
It always cracked me up when the first you knew of an enemy jeep catching sight of you was when it crashed head first into the rock that you were standing on while you scoped out a checkpoint.

Larsen B

06-08-2011, 04:39 AM

Apart from the vehicles I thought the AI was good fun to fight. They didn't have magic vision, they would flank you but in turn could be flanked if they lost sight and sound of you, and they didn't have perfect aim.

Apart from that one guy in the South, sitting on an island with a mortar. His aim, especially in the darkness, was almost perfect. I must have died 10 times before I found him by taking a really circuitous route.

Quitch

06-08-2011, 04:57 AM

Well I barely played the South so no comment.

TurinTur

02-15-2012, 09:35 AM

Intro Trailer WUB WUB WUB!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=J6gnOVJsCsM

Also, the search is broken, I searched by "Far Cry 3" and "far cry" and it didn't find any thread with that title.

Shellfishguy

02-15-2012, 09:41 AM

I like the setup, lets just hope the game handles as well at FC2.

TurinTur

02-15-2012, 09:47 AM

The typical crazy punk guy is a bit meh for me, but whatever, it's not that important.

Shellfishguy

02-15-2012, 10:06 AM

Yeah, but he was in the first trailer so its not a surprise. Seems he'll be the recurring villain most likely. So long as we get to shut him up once and for all at the end. But as much as I enjoyed FC2 I can't help but feel like I'll be disappointed with FC3. I just have a sinking feeling that they're really going to screw it up. I really hope they prove me wrong.

Paul_cze

02-15-2012, 10:28 AM

I think it could be better design-wise. They probably learnt their lesson with respawning enemies, and lack of fauna too.

Plus Charles says its script should be something fantastic, assuming it survives transition into game itself.

BleedTheFreak

02-15-2012, 10:59 AM

Man, I loved FarCry 2 and this looks amazing!

But it's Ubisoft, so I guess I'll have to take a pass on it, since the DRM will be horrible. Sigh.

Clay

02-15-2012, 11:28 AM

The first trailer came out so long ago that when I started watching this one I couldn't shake the feeling that I already had played the game.

Wholly Schmidt

02-15-2012, 06:29 PM

Well that was certainly a trailer full of things I don't care about. I just want more of the same, I'd take Far Cry 2: But Now Different Place even with all the flaws of the original. So do whatever you want with the cutscenes and the plot I guess, but I hope the actual game is more iterative and less a reinvention.

Eightball

02-15-2012, 06:35 PM

I hope there are no weird monsters in this one...please be more like FC2 than FC1...

RedHerb

02-15-2012, 07:14 PM

I looked at the trailer and wondered what a found footage game would be like...

TurinTur

02-16-2012, 12:06 AM

I hope there are no weird monsters in this one...please be more like FC2 than FC1...

I think it's going to be more like FC1 than FC2, except the weird monsters thing.

Juste

02-16-2012, 12:07 AM

September? Dammit that's a long way out. Oh well, maybe I'll get to finish Far Cry 2 first then (loved the game, hit a bug that stopped my progress back in the days).

Alex Pirani

02-16-2012, 12:35 AM

I hope sniping actually works this time around. I had a great time in FC2 carefully crawling through tall grass to get the perfect shot on my target, I'd stalk him until I found the perfect vantage to take my shot from. All I'd hear was the wind, and everything looked beautiful around me. I would line up my shot and fire, headshotting him, but then... he wouldn't fall down dead. Instead, after taking a bullet to the skull him and all of his friends would immediately turn and face me from 100 yards away and start shooting right towards me, knowing exactly where I was. What a bummer.
Anyway, I've loved the FC titles, so I'm pumped for this to release.

spiffy

02-16-2012, 12:38 AM

They've had a long time to develop this, it would be very weird for them to not improve and address the complaints from the second one.

TurinTur

02-16-2012, 12:06 PM

Another video, from IGN, this time with some gameplay on it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Psn3IuH_B0s&hd=1

It's a bit spoilerish, not in plot terms, but there is a cool side mission that maybe would be better to be surprised in the full game.

Blips

02-16-2012, 12:39 PM

Man, I loved FarCry 2 and this looks amazing!

But it's Ubisoft, so I guess I'll have to take a pass on it, since the DRM will be horrible. Sigh.

Yeah I'm here to. Whenever I see an awesome game but then notice Ubisoft's signature afterwards, I have to consciously forget the game exists or be a slave to my despair of knowing I'll never be playing it.

Pogo

02-16-2012, 03:48 PM

Blips

02-16-2012, 03:54 PM

Um, wow what version of the games were you guys playing? Honestly on the PC, on hardest difficulty, I would often play the part of a sneaking sniper and I've never had that happen to me.

Pogo

02-16-2012, 04:07 PM

Well, the gunplay was great, but I never really felt like a sniper due to how enemies would pinpoint me, even at night. Running away to find another position never really worked because there was zero feedback on cover.

Marcin

02-16-2012, 05:03 PM

The feedback was them failing to shoot you, and starting to yell "Where'd he go?"

I admit I don't remember how sniping with a normal rifle worked, and it's been long enough since I played to recall the exact behaviors, but I distinctly recall sneaking up to an outpost with just a regular gun and being able to lose them easily just by backing up, hiding behind trees and circling around a hill. Seemed like they were pretty LoS-reliant to me.

Also, the suppressed sniper rifle worked wonderfully.

Tony M

02-18-2012, 03:33 PM

Blips

02-18-2012, 03:50 PM

I have to wonder if every enemy will be carrying a knife reachable from behind. Will the player never have a knife of their own?

Monsieur Eek!

02-18-2012, 04:06 PM

Does anybody else find the setup trailer to be vaguely problematic? Why are there so many games out right now about being a white American dude who mows down hundreds of ethnic people? And this dude shouldn't even be able to fight. I don't want to harsh anybody's buzz about the game. I just think it needs to be said.

I thought the announcement trailer looked great when it was Mirror's Edge in the jungle with a seemingly vulnerable character. Then there was suddenly a gun and dude's killing tons of mercenaries and taking down choppers. Oh well.

Blips

02-18-2012, 04:16 PM

Monsieur Eek!

02-18-2012, 04:18 PM

Okay?

Paul_cze

02-18-2012, 04:27 PM

New Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=v2NptKVlMrk). Boo to the minimap. Boooo!

I know they have to play the game that way (run and gun) to lure the COD fans, but that sure doesn't look like the way I play Far Cry.

Still looks promising though. As long as they keep 90% of the game outdoors rather than in corridors.

Tony

The minimap is idiotic, considering how well map was done in FC2.

I hope the game will have some hardcore mod with HUD turned off and proper map in place.

Monsieur Eek!

02-18-2012, 04:34 PM

Yeah, it looks a far cry (eh?) from FC2 in a lot of ways. Can't imagine Clint Hocking had a lot to do with this.

Delta

02-19-2012, 09:32 AM

Yeah, I loved Far Cry 2 - like, top five loved it - and while this all looks cool and that, it just doesn't seem it's going to be half as interesting.

spiffy

02-19-2012, 10:29 AM

Yeah, I'm really bummed it's not in Africa, or a similar real world, politically charged third world location. I feel like the off -the-charts remote jungle island is really played out by now, pretty as it is..

Paul_cze

02-19-2012, 11:57 AM

Yeah, it looks a far cry (eh?) from FC2 in a lot of ways. Can't imagine Clint Hocking had a lot to do with this.
Well considering he has been in LucasArts for quite some while...he probably had nothing to do with FC3.

TurinTur

03-21-2012, 10:50 AM

New trailer
www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0c7P-GI0CU#!

Sarkus

03-21-2012, 10:59 AM

I give them credit for not feeling with this series that they need to carry over anything other then the gameplay. It allows them to go in all kinds of interesting directions.

LMN8R

03-21-2012, 11:30 AM

Ok, I'm intrigued. I love that they seem to be dramatically changing things up, the psychotic stuff looks very interesting.

TurinTur

03-21-2012, 02:30 PM

Exclusive preorders yeahh! :(

http://www.abload.de/img/gs-fc3-fb-tab_01gcj1x.jpg

http://images.vg247.com/current//2012/03/jpg

lordkosc

03-21-2012, 03:44 PM

they are only exclusive till they become paid DLC in time. :p

Telefrog

03-21-2012, 03:47 PM

Hurk and his bomb-carrying monkey should be in the "I Hate This Guy" thread.

Blips

03-21-2012, 04:38 PM

I still want to know if we can collect our own knives, or if the player is forever damned to having to steal conveniently placed knives off enemies.

MSUSteve

03-22-2012, 06:43 AM

The new trailer is fantastic. I'm really excited for this one.

TurinTur

04-04-2012, 09:34 AM

First multiplayer video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4-jo-AX_7V4

Seems inspired by... Call of Duty, of course. A more colorful, almost whimsical? (the drug bomb, for example) CoD.

Telefrog

04-05-2012, 08:28 AM

Inspired by? That video makes it seem like a CoD fan made a user mod in the engine.

Speaking of which, did anyone bother playing Far Cry 2's mulitplayer? I think the scene died pretty quickly.

Paul_cze

04-05-2012, 09:51 AM

Yeah FC2 MP was complete bust and it pisses me off that they are making MP for FarCry3, and inseparable from SP. I hate the fact that I have to pay for both when I will never touch MP. Wish they would offer them separately.

spiffy

04-05-2012, 09:55 AM

Huh? Unless they were charging double price for a game with sp and mp, I don't see your objection .. you'd pay the same price for a sp game only, wouldn't you?

Rock8man

04-05-2012, 09:57 AM

Huh? Unless they were charging double price for a game with sp and mp, I don't see your objection .. you'd pay the same price for a sp game only, wouldn't you?

It depends on how successful the multiplayer is. If the multiplayer is a success, then the game's value won't drop drastically soon after launch, even in Steam sales. But if multiplayer is a bust, then it shouldn't make a difference. The game will be discounted soon after release.

Alex Pirani

04-15-2012, 05:36 PM

Just curious, am I the only one who really liked FC2's map editor? I thought it was really easy to use, and you could make some pretty awesome stuff with it. I'd really love to see things like that in more multiplayer games, and has there been any word about something similar being in FC3?

Rock8man

04-15-2012, 10:54 PM

FC2's map editor was a thing of beauty. I was so looking forward to using that thing.

And then FC2 came out and I found out that the editor was for multiplayer only. And I never tried FC2 multiplayer, so I never bothered with the editor either. Such a waste of a wonderful easy to use interface and a great editor. I could play Far Cry 2 to perpetuity if that editor had been for single player. I bet people would still be coming out with great worlds for Far Cry 2 if that had been the case.

Tony M

04-16-2012, 03:24 AM

Just curious, am I the only one who really liked FC2's map editor? I thought it was really easy to use, and you could make some pretty awesome stuff with it.

What What? I LOVE Far Cry 2 and would kill for some good user made levels!

And then FC2 came out and I found out that the editor was for multiplayer only.

Argh! Don't get my hopes up like that Alex.

Alex Pirani

04-17-2012, 05:48 PM

What What? I LOVE Far Cry 2 and would kill for some good user made levels!

Argh! Don't get my hopes up like that Alex.

Gah sorry, yeah that was its real flaw, you couldn't place AI, and since the multiplayer community was sorta stagnant, you would spend hours making something you really liked, and then never be able to get people to play it with you. Occasionally you would get people playing your maps though, and that was really really cool. But I would have been glad to just make maps filled with AI enemies to fool around in

Marcin

04-18-2012, 08:11 PM

Yeah, that was a huge lost opportunity to engage the community. Just think of what that + a small dedicated cloud-based tool for browsing user content would have done for FC2's longevity. Sigh.

Alex Pirani

04-19-2012, 06:04 PM

It was a bit ahead of its time if you ask me, if they did that now, integrated with steam cloud and the workshop, jeez it could have been great.

TurinTur

06-05-2012, 06:42 AM

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2012-far-cry-3/731061
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2012-far-cry-3/731100

Videos from E3.

Multiple takedowns Deus Ex style (chained takedowns exactly), not happy about it.
I am also suspecting the "insanity" angle of the game from one of the end sentences of the trailer.

If they make a Tyler Durden plot twist I will be pissed off with Ubisoft for spoiling it here in the trailer

Giaddon

06-06-2012, 07:56 AM

After reading some of the responses coming out of e3, I'm much more excited for this than I was. The confirmation that it's open world, and the totally bizarre hallucinogenic/insanity theme is very promising. Add that to my good will from Far Cry 2, and this may be a day one for me. We'll see. Still three months off.

Telefrog

06-06-2012, 08:09 AM

Plus, boobies!

I'm realy glad they chose to feature that right in the beginning of their press event. Good job!

Rock8man

06-06-2012, 08:11 AM

Plus, boobies!

I'm realy glad they chose to feature that right in the beginning of their press event. Good job!

Did the boobies have something to do with the hallucinogenic/insanity theme that Giaddon is talking about? (I haven't seen any of the latest footage yet).

Telefrog

06-06-2012, 08:21 AM

Did the boobies have something to do with the hallucinogenic/insanity theme that Giaddon is talking about? (I haven't seen any of the latest footage yet).

Hard to say. The video starts with a first-person POV of boobies in your face for about 30 seconds with no context. I got the impression that it's from the POV of the antagonist.

Blips

06-06-2012, 08:28 AM

Hard to say. The video starts with a first-person POV of boobies in your face for about 30 seconds with no context. I got the impression that it's from the POV of the antagonist.
But the boobies belonged to the antagonist's sister!

Telefrog

06-06-2012, 08:30 AM

But the boobies belonged to the antagonist's sister!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fe/Glenn_Quagmire.png

Brad Grenz

06-06-2012, 02:17 PM

Later while hallucinating you see the antagonist and his sister morphing together on a stripper pole.

Giaddon

06-07-2012, 06:05 AM

Did the boobies have something to do with the hallucinogenic/insanity theme that Giaddon is talking about? (I haven't seen any of the latest footage yet).

Not really. They are part of a ritualistic sex act in which the antagonist's sister has sex (not clear if penetrative) with the player character to make him a warrior-leader of what appears to be a tribe of indigenous people.

WarrenM

06-07-2012, 07:12 AM

It just looks like a cut scene you'll want to skip as soon as possible so you can find a field of grass to light on fire. Just saying...

TurinTur

06-07-2012, 07:17 AM

Not really. They are part of a ritualistic sex act in which the antagonist's sister has sex (not clear if penetrative) with the player character to make him a warrior-leader of what appears to be a tribe of indigenous people.

BEST. TRIBE. EVER.

instant0

06-07-2012, 11:44 AM

It just looks like a cut scene you'll want to skip as soon as possible so you can find a field of grass to light on fire. Just saying...

That was the best part of Farcry2... burning stuff. Felt like the fires stopped burning incredibly fast though.

ElGuapo

06-07-2012, 01:51 PM

Push A to inject heroin into your penis.

Is the whole game trippy and drug fueled like that? I thought the malaria thing in the first game was more than enough.

Telefrog

06-25-2012, 10:04 AM

Delayed to November.

Today, Ubisoft announced that Far Cry 3 will be released on November 29 in EMEA and on December 4 in the U.S. Far Cry 3 will be available for the Xbox 360 video game and entertainment system from Microsoft, the Sony PlayStation 3 computer entertainment system and Windows PC.

“We’re taking more time to create the best possible gameplay experience,” said Dan Hay, producer at Ubisoft. “Far Cry 3 is a huge offering and we want every element of this insane, action-packed adventure to be of the highest possible quality for the players.”

Original date was September 4th.

This puts Far Cry 3 in competition with CODBLOPS2 which is a weird move considering how much they were pimping the multiplayer at E3.

Tim James

06-25-2012, 10:55 AM

They timed that well. I might not have jumped on the GMG preorder had they announced this last week.

Two Sheds

06-25-2012, 11:01 AM

Yeah, me too. But now I'll just forget about it until a couple weeks before release and then say Oh yeah I already bought that! So no big deal.

Paul_cze

06-25-2012, 11:30 AM

Yeah close to Halo/Cod/AC3/Hitman. They will never learn.

Tim James

06-25-2012, 11:40 AM

I'm not interested in any of those games but I wonder what else will be released this season. Last winter was so busy I probably wouldn't have had time for a random shooter like Far Cry 3. I'm going to look at the release schedule. If I don't think I'll get to it until next year then I'll try to cancel my preorder.

Joe M.

06-25-2012, 12:59 PM

I'll pick up AC3 because I love the series and I have mild interest in Hitman pending reviews, but FC3 is a stone cold lock for me. There aren't a lot of shooters of its kind these days so I figure I ought to support them when I can, lest every shooter become COD-alike.

Telefrog

06-25-2012, 01:05 PM

I have a feeling that someone at Ubi will wake up and realize that a Nov 29/Dec 4 launch will kill this by putting it in competition with all the heavy hitters and we'll be hearing about another "delay" to push it out to next year.

Tim James

06-25-2012, 05:24 PM

I submitted a cancellation to GMG. Don't let me discourage you of course. I just think my backlog is going to be packed from the fall season and realistically this would be one of the first games to slip through the cracks.

I'll probably end up paying the same in the end but that's okay.

Tom Chick

06-25-2012, 06:05 PM

So is it no longer the conventional wisdom that if you're not out by Black Friday, you've screwed the porch?

Because that's what strikes me about the release date. They want to get out by the end of the year, but they're not going to make it in time for the Thanksgiving weekend shopping frenzy. Is that no longer such an important thing to publishers?

-Tom

Ed Solomon

06-25-2012, 06:47 PM

"Screwed the porch?" You Arkansans have such interesting colloquial expressions.

Tom Chick

06-25-2012, 07:19 PM

As much as I'd love to claim that for the great state of Arkansas, I believe credit for that one goes to our own Johan Freeberg of Finland, or Sweden, or some such place.

-Tom

Rock8man

06-25-2012, 08:35 PM

So is it no longer the conventional wisdom that if you're not out by Black Friday, you've screwed the porch?

Yes, that's still conventional wisdom. The games that come out in December are never hits unless they're from Blizzard.

Soma

06-25-2012, 09:04 PM

Wait wait wait, after they go all Heart of Darkness with Far Cry 2, with 3 they just go back to the basic sex, drugs and violence formula? Tsk Tsk Tsk.

Bonus link: NYT reviewer comparing Spec Ops: The Line with Far Cry 2 (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/26/arts/video-games/spec-ops-the-line-from-2k-games-makes-killing-personal.html?_r=1&ref=global-home).

Paul_cze

06-25-2012, 11:20 PM

In perhaps the game’s low point for literalness, Walker and his men come across a tortured, charred body dangling upside down from a piece of rope. At this moment the game rewards the player with an Xbox Achievement (known as a Trophy on the PlayStation 3) that is titled “The Horror.”

.....

BDGE

06-26-2012, 08:14 AM

Yes, that's still conventional wisdom. The games that come out in December are never hits unless they're from Blizzard.

Historically there have been major hits released in December. Final Fantasy X came out a few days before Xmas in the US and that sold tremendously well.

Granted, the PS2 was relatively new at that time still(1 year out), and jRPG's actually still held consumer interest, particularly the FF brand. But that release nonetheless got people to the stores just before New Years.

FC3 lacks of the luxury of being a lynchpin release for relatively new hardware, and I'm not certain the brand really holds much sway to the greater market.

Sarkus

06-26-2012, 11:21 AM

Black Friday as a target date is used more because thats when a lot of people begin their shopping, not because things released after that are screwed. After all, Black Friday itself is mostly about whats on sale at this point, which isn't going to be games released in the previous month most likely.

Since a lot of those other games aren't on my list of wants I don't really care when FarCry 3 is released.

Tom Chick

06-26-2012, 12:13 PM

Black Friday as a target date is used more because thats when a lot of people begin their shopping, not because things released after that are screwed. After all, Black Friday itself is mostly about whats on sale at this point, which isn't going to be games released in the previous month most likely.

I don't think you understand the point of those sales. :)

-Tom

Paul_cze

07-11-2012, 10:56 AM

Really, really great interview with lead writer Jeffrey Yohalem, whose FC3 script was called "genius" by Charles:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ASyVxfe_wY

He really seems like a smart and passionate fella. I wanted to get FC3 later on sale, but I might just get it on day 1 after watching this.

Two Sheds

07-11-2012, 11:10 AM

Hey, good interview indeed. Thanks for the link, Paul. This game is sounding better and better. I'm feeling pretty good about snagging that GMG preorder deal!

Paul_cze

07-11-2012, 11:18 AM

Check out the other Wheaton interviews. They are all pretty good, especially CDProjekt one and Schaffer/Gilbert one.

TurinTur

08-15-2012, 06:21 AM

Hey guys, I heard you like bullshots!

http://i.imgur.com/a5NmX.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/mc8YR.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MfzDC.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gGBgY.jpg

TurinTur

08-15-2012, 10:55 AM

Heh heh sometimes I love the Internet

1.

http://i.imgur.com/6Mvzj.png

2.

http://i.imgur.com/RLqC8.jpg

3.

Screenshot without the preorder pack:

http://i.imgur.com/MsTcP.jpg

Giaddon

08-15-2012, 10:58 AM

Nice.

lordkosc

08-15-2012, 02:11 PM

My god , without the pre-order you don't even get hands in game!

:O

TurinTur

08-16-2012, 05:18 AM

Spoiler: included shark punching
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtMOqdZS8jU&feature=player_embedded

TurinTur

08-29-2012, 10:53 AM

New trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeMqgp5U78Y

jeansberg

08-29-2012, 12:04 PM

Yay, a video without any psycho drug crap! I must say it looked very good.

JohnMatrix

08-29-2012, 01:37 PM

I hope this delivers. I loved Far Cry 2, despite some nearly unforgivable flaws.

spiffy

08-30-2012, 03:54 AM

I think the wildlife animations are my favorite thing (even though jungle cats and anteloppe on a pacific island seems a bit odd-- if I google 'felines of pacific islands' I get a bunch of fluffy little things). Not sure about the whole "Lost" feeling either, I much prefer the civil war/mercenery aspect of FC2, even if they implemented it badly. But yeah, I'm looking forward to exploring on my own terms.

Tony M

08-30-2012, 05:43 AM

Any word on how open the world is? I think I would enjoy almost any shooter that had a setting as open as Far Cry 2's was.

Giaddon

08-30-2012, 06:10 AM

Supposedly it's modeled on Assassin's Ceeed 2, so very open.

TurinTur

08-30-2012, 06:32 AM

Supposedly it's modeled on Assassin's Ceeed 2, so very open.

I thought it was supposed to be closer to Far Cry 1.

Giaddon

08-30-2012, 06:44 AM

Here's a decent article that collects quotes from various development people about the world of Far Cry 3. It talks about quests and side missions, and also about traveling the world:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/02/24/far-cry-3-learning-from-the-past

On Inconvenient Fast Travel: "I think that as gamers it's something that's frustrating and it's something that was probably born of necessity [in Far Cry 2]. For us it's important that you have that sense that you can do something because you want to. You're always enabled by the game. You should feel like you don't want to be traveling over here, that you don't want to be waiting, that you don't want to be doing 'best guess' fast travel. You want to go to that place or something very close to it. That's what we want to do. We don't want you to feel like you're being blocked by the world. If you want to travel quickly somewhere, you can do it. If you want to just drive around, you can do that too. If you want to jump off that cliff - you can do that too.

There are points where we make you do something to pull them along, but we want to make sure we're not contriving situations too much. We want to say here's the objective - go there if you want. And if you want to go off and explore, it will be waiting for you when you get back. We're not dictating to players as much as we can."

Seems to imply it's more like Far Cry 2 than 1, but with much more precise fast travel (Bethesda style?),

TurinTur

08-30-2012, 06:56 AM

If it's more like Far Cry 2, again, I hope they have improved the repetitiveness (repetitive side quests, repetitive exploration, repetitive checkpoints), etc.

Inverarity

08-30-2012, 09:52 PM

If it's more like Far Cry 2, again, I hope they have improved the repetitiveness (repetitive side quests, repetitive exploration, repetitive checkpoints), etc.
I disagree, I thought they were quite good at the repetitiveness. I hope for this new game they've gotten worse.

TurinTur

08-30-2012, 11:13 PM

I disagree, I thought they were quite good at the repetitiveness. I hope for this new game they've gotten worse.

That's a weird hope to have.

Rock8man

08-30-2012, 11:45 PM

I disagree, I thought they were quite good at the repetitiveness. I hope for this new game they've gotten worse.

Hahah. That's a strange way of putting it, but I love it. I salute you, sir.

I also agree that they were quite good at repetitiveness. The repetitiveness that formed the meat of the gameplay (repetitive side quests, repetitive exploration) was unpredictable, exhilarating and the game's greatest strength. It was that portion that took a fairly uninteresting world, and made it a fantastic playground.

lordkosc

08-31-2012, 04:49 AM

The last 4 posts have wording that makes my brain hurt.

I hope for LESS repetitiveness and nothing that will respawn if I go back to an area I cleared out, other than animals perhaps.

TurinTur

08-31-2012, 05:12 AM

Oh. Now I get it.

LMN8R

09-01-2012, 12:06 AM

Oh jesus. At PAX they're giving people mohawks for a free copy of the game. Gross.

Brad Grenz

09-01-2012, 12:36 AM

Wish I was there. I need a haircut!

TurinTur

09-02-2012, 11:16 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgA_j8wSQGY
15 cam video in PAX

-AssCreed towers are in. :S

-Circular minimap in the corner, big map screen with icons of "activities" and "points of interests", it's very GTA style (or should I say Asscreed style?), except being a FPS in a tropical island.

-Still road checkpoints, but they comment once you take back the outpost of that area the checkpoints related to that outpost are eliminated/taken by allied forces.

-Bloody skinning of animals yayyy. wait. Who wanted that feature?

-There is xray vision effect by default?? (edit: surely not by default, they talk of a skill tree, I suppose it was a skill)

Tim James

09-02-2012, 12:16 PM

That minimap looks terrible. At least blend it in with the theme.

That reminds me of the Watch Dogs video. Slick movie-like intro and then OH HELLO GTA RADAR. We're playing a video game now!

What are the AssCreed towers, the thing he was climbing at the start? I don't really want to play a samey game put through the AAA template process.

Paul_cze

09-02-2012, 12:22 PM

Why the hell could not they keep the nice ingame map from FC2 ?

Giaddon

09-02-2012, 12:52 PM

Awesome video. Definitely shows that the game going to be an open world, plus it looks a lot richer than Far Cry 2 (more stuff to do, more variety). More animals, peaceful towns, map control, assassination bounties, better fast travel... Lots of stuff I wanted after Far Cry 2. Looking forward to release.

lordkosc

09-02-2012, 01:28 PM

I am fine with the towers in game, I liked that part of the AC series, but I agree the mini map is crappy, I'd prefer a pull up map like in FarCry2.

see:
http://thelure.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/far-cry-2.jpg

Inverarity

09-02-2012, 01:34 PM

-Still road checkpoints, but they comment once you take back the outpost of that area the checkpoints related to that outpost are eliminated/taken by allied forces.
There you go. Now I'm jazzed.

TurinTur

09-05-2012, 11:14 AM

Another trailer. Ubisoft pay me for the free marketing!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ebb3Dg82qQ&feature=player_embedded

TurinTur

10-10-2012, 08:43 AM

9 min gameplay (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NTBubkMXZLw)

"The Tribe : Meet Citra and Dennis" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=m7eIHN7dyds)

edit: and RPS weighs in the single player
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/10/10/hands-on-far-cry-3-single-player/

Vincent19

10-10-2012, 01:04 PM

Man, I can't wait for this game.

I was in the apparently sparse camp that loved the hell out of Farcry 2 (so many incredible emergant moments in that game), and this one looks to be even better. I can't wait to fight a shark with just a knife and my bare hands.

Two Sheds

10-10-2012, 01:09 PM

I'm in that camp, too. One of my favorite games. I preordered when this was announced (something I never do), so I've been avoiding watching videos. Reading other people's commentary on videos and gameplay lately has gotten me pretty excited, though.

Cormac

10-10-2012, 01:23 PM

This RPS article (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/10/10/hands-on-far-cry-3-single-player/) scaled back my expectations slightly...

Well, I didn’t feel like that when I played Far Cry 3 for the first time. I didn’t feel under threat. I felt safe. And that’s probably the word I would use to sum up my first impressions of the game itself. ‘Safe’. Ubisoft have made a gorgeous, characterful and finely-tuned game. But in doing so they appear to have stripped out what was fresh and vital about its predecessor.

Two Sheds

10-10-2012, 01:40 PM

I'm going to have to politely disagree with that assessment. Personally, though I loved the game, the constant danger in Far Cry 2 got on my nerves after a while. Pause for a second to check the map and it's VRRRRRRRR oh great another jeep. If "playing it safe" means I get some downtime and a little breathing space, I'm all for it.

Tim James

10-10-2012, 02:17 PM

The RPS article made the game fall further down my list. I saw a few subtle things in the previews that made me vaguely worried it would be too much like a GTA or AssCreed style game, or whatever people play these days. That's how the author felt too.

Don't let me demoralize anyone. It's just not my thing. I'll pick it up eventually to blast through it.

Joe M.

10-10-2012, 02:38 PM

The RPS article was somewhat unhelpful for me. The undercurrent throughout was "well, I liked this about FC2 and now it's different". Which is ok in itself - at least we know where he's coming from. But as someone who liked FC1 and FC2, I really don't mind major tweaks to the series. If it's not a direct refinement of FC2, that's fine. What I need to know is if they deliver on what they're trying to do with FC3 and whether it's fun or not. And why. I can stand and admire the view is perhaps the weakest criticism of a game I've ever read.

Then again, he only had two hours, so I expect there's no way for him to know how the RPG elements play out, how the story resolves, etc. I look forward to reading more fleshed out previews.

Istari6

10-10-2012, 03:18 PM

What concerns me in the RPS preview is the impression that they've layered on even more "gamey" mechanics over the immersive experience. That immersion was one of the things I loved best about Far Cry 2, and it's a fragile illusion. Still remember the first time I pulled out my map and had to check it "in the world" while the the flames crept closer and gunman were maneuvering against me. Totally different experience than the "freeze frame" experience of most game maps.

Yes, there were gamey elements in FC2 that often stuck out (the scattered briefcases of diamonds), but when it all came together and you were motoring along in an airboat with a rusty AR-15 that you didn't entirely trust with the baobao trees lit in the sunset... it was amazing. As an aside, Bioshock and Bioshock 2 had the same problem for me - great environments that were continually undercut by the "game layer" constantly reminding me I'm manipulating a completely artificial and unconvincing set of mechanics and goal states.

I was hoping FC3 would expand upon that immersive open world, but it sounds like they've retreated towards the safer model of AssCreed where the "game mechanics" are much more prominent. Too bad that the success of Skyrim and the many mods out there for increasing immersion didn't give the producers confidence that greater immersion was a safe direction to pursue.

Chris

DoomMunky

10-10-2012, 10:49 PM

I agree, Chris. That immersion was the best thing about FC2. I'm not really interested in FC3 any more.

TurinTur

10-11-2012, 12:03 AM

Yep, the RPS preview makes it sound like it's a much more AssCreed/GTA like sandbox, except being a FPS. With tons of little missions you can go and do at your own pace, quest lines given by important npcs, etc.

Sean Tudor

10-11-2012, 04:55 PM

I loved FC2 and after watching FC3 gameplay will definitely get the game. I love sandbox elements and if FC3 has the same random battles I loved in FC2 all the better.

krayzkrok

10-11-2012, 09:03 PM

I loved FC2 after the somewhat disappointingly overhyped first one. And I think half of that was the challenge, the constant fear of being ambushed which so annoyed some people was exactly what made the game work for me. It was a bit like the respawning zombies in System Shock 2. Annoyed the hell out of a lot of people, but another set of people felt it added to the fear. Take that away and you lose what gives the game much of its soul. FC3 strikes me as a desire to pull it back to the mainstream, and I really don't get a good vibe off it at all.

Universal Leader

10-12-2012, 03:51 PM

It's a shame that so many people hated the things I loved most about Far Cry 2.

TurinTur

10-17-2012, 06:49 AM

Minecraft: a Marketing Tool
http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/10052/article/far-cry-3-comes-to-minecraft-in-insane-texture-pack/

TurinTur

10-18-2012, 08:24 AM

This video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXVuF3IWSSA)gives a good idea of the game in the context of the sandbox

Tony M

10-19-2012, 03:43 AM

This video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXVuF3IWSSA)gives a good idea of the game in the context of the sandbox

I'm pretty interested after seeing that video. It looks like real Far Cry (2). Those canned trailers had me worried, but I'm hopeful again after seeing that.

Still a real shame that they moved away from the immersive hudless design of Far Cry 2, but this is worth keeping an eye on.

Tony

spiffy

10-19-2012, 03:49 AM

Is it weird I've played enough games and seen enough tv shows on tropical islands that the terrain just isn't exotic anymore? Africa was fresh. I bet a remote area of China or Central/South America would be fresh (and lush) too. Oh well.

That said, I'm also reinvigorated by that last video... exploring, moving at my own pace, plenty of ambient wildlife, crafting stuff from random things you find, things to do that don't have to tie into the plot... cool.

Tony M

10-19-2012, 03:55 AM

Is it weird I've played enough games and seen enough tv shows on tropical islands that the terrain just isn't exotic anymore? Africa was fresh. I bet a remote area of China or Central/South America would be fresh (and lush) too. Oh well.

I almost commented that the location seemed a little disappointing, but that seemed ungrateful, as I'm always imploring PC game developers to make more bright and colourful games. But you put your finger on the issue, and your suggested locations sound way cooler to me.

Tony

Alex Pirani

10-24-2012, 11:00 AM

I think India would be pretty cool, diverse scenery, interesting cities, colorful.

Sarkus

10-31-2012, 08:11 PM

Anyone know if this is going to be offered on Steam? I noticed on the official page they don't list it even though their pre-order campaign is in full swing.

Tony M

11-01-2012, 01:13 AM

Anyone know if this is going to be offered on Steam? I noticed on the official page they don't list it even though their pre-order campaign is in full swing.

Who cares about Steam. The question is "When is it going to be on Greenman Gaming for 25-30% off"

Giaddon

11-01-2012, 03:46 AM

It already was, actually.

BleedTheFreak

11-07-2012, 07:55 AM

This went gold yesterday, and while I was largely ignoring it due to Ubisoft, I do recall the DRM is supposed to be relaxing somewhat from Ubi as new games come out, so maybe FC3 will be one of the first to have a bit less of a draconian scheme?

In any case, a little research led me to this walkthrough video which made me just fall in love with the game so far. I loved FC2, and many of my problems such as constantly respawning check points seems neatly handled here, plus it's vibrant, seems like the world is more active (and reactive), and still boasts that same great action and exploration, and gunplay.

I'm tempted to pre-order this on Amazon, in the hopes it gets good reviews and is all it looks like it could be. Sounds like doing so gets you some nice pre-order goodies, like bonus weapons, NPC's, and missions. One such mission is detailed here and looked fun. I was surprised by how much having a voiced player character added to the experience, and I felt both the NPC and the PC were likeable enough.

Also of note, I really like that when the player approaches a wall or something and smashes face first into it, the weapon model tilts up as though to not ram straight into the wall. A nice touch I wish more FPS games would try and do.

Anyone else following this? There is a lot going on I don't quite get, like XP - what does that get you? Is that how you learn badass take downs like the 4m mark of that DLC mission video I linked? Because that would be pretty fun to unlock. A lot of the gameplay makes the character look like an utter bad ass, I hope you start off not being able to do a lot of that, it would be fun to unlock stuff as you play.

flyinj

11-07-2012, 08:06 AM

I don't see this on GMG. As a matter of fact, when I sort by "UbiSoft" on their site, I get zero results.

Are Ubi titles not available through them if you live in North America?

Giaddon

11-07-2012, 08:44 AM

Yeah, Far Cry 3 showed up for a weekend on GMG for $35, then disappeared. It's still in my "my games" section, though, so who knows what will happen. I'll write them.

TurinTur

11-16-2012, 11:15 AM

Spread of fire confirmed!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF-Hxw-CcMs&feature=player_embedded

TurinTur

11-21-2012, 09:16 AM

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-11-21-far-cry-3-review 10/10
http://au.ign.com/articles/2012/11/21/far-cry-3-review 9/10
http://www.strategyinformer.com/pc/farcry3/reviews.html 9/10
http://www.godisageek.com/2012/11/cry-3-review/ 9/10
http://www.officialplaystationmagazine.co.uk/review/far-cry-3-review-and-gameplay-video-first-person-open-worlders-you-wish-you-were-here/ 9/10
http://www.1up.com/reviews/cry-3-review-stumble-jungle B-
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/11/21/wot-i-think-far-cry-3-single-player/ (WIT from RPS)

Giaddon

11-21-2012, 09:19 AM

Damn, good scores.

Two Sheds

11-21-2012, 09:23 AM

Holy cow, the last paragraph of that RPS write-up is exactly what I was hoping to read. I'm feeling pretty excited about my preorder!

It’s certainly the game I hoped Far Cry 2 would be back in 2008

Can't wait!

BleedTheFreak

11-21-2012, 09:24 AM

Holy Monkey Shit! That's awesome! I was already going to pre-order it based on the videos they showed, and I even squeezed my new monitor in before Christmas to play Far Cry 3 on it, so I'm glad it's living up to the hype. I'll have to read those reviews, FC2 was one of my favorite action games of all time, even with it's issues.

TurinTur

11-21-2012, 09:29 AM

http://www.gametrailers.com/reviews/dyxtjr/far-cry-3-review - 8.6
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/reviews/egm-review-far-cry-3/ 10/10
http://kotaku.com/5962414/far-cry-3-the-kotaku-review
http://www.edge-online.com/review/far-cry-3-review/ 8/10

RPS score: "better then Far Cry 2" :P

LMN8R

11-21-2012, 09:36 AM

awesome

instant0

11-21-2012, 10:35 AM

Seems like every game gets between a 7-10 so cant really trust the scores anymore; Guess I'll check out a demo w.e. its out :)
Although the RPS Quote seems very encouraging.

Bring back AMiGA Power and the 0-100 scale actually being used. Kick Off '96 famous for getting a 1 :-) (http://amr.abime.net/review_1774)
Got to love the rating of 1 because those who purchased the game MIGHT starve to death as they spent money on a game instead of food :)

Two Sheds

11-21-2012, 10:35 AM

The trick is that you have to read the words that often accompany those numbers.

Paul_cze

11-21-2012, 10:40 AM

Jim Rossignol wrote the RPS review and recommended it. That is all I needed to know.
Glad I preordered it for 30 dollars on GMG few days ago :p

I will need to cleanse my palate after Absolution.

DoomMunky

11-21-2012, 05:03 PM

Fuck. I totally wasn't going to buy this, and then eurogamer gives it 10/10, saying its 'an amazing anecdote generator' and the best open world shooter around.

Fuck.

Blips

11-21-2012, 05:16 PM

Ugh. For me, the best parts of Far Cry 2 were the immersion and gunplay. I know they replaced the handheld map with a minimap (sad face) and most likely removed the weapon jams and such, but is the gunplay in Far Cry 3 as satisfying as in Far Cry 2? If yes, I may be tempted to buy it sometime soon.

Tim James

11-21-2012, 05:49 PM

Fuck. I totally wasn't going to buy this, and then eurogamer gives it 10/10, saying its 'an amazing anecdote generator' and the best open world shooter around.

Fuck.I don't think that tells us anything new. There are very few open world FPS games. I'll play it eventually just for that reason. But there are a lot of anecdote generators out there right now. (This is a good sign.) People said the same thing about Far Cry 2.

I think what's promising is Jim didn't complain about the AAA standardization process.

wumpus

11-22-2012, 12:42 AM

It’s certainly the game I hoped Far Cry 2 would be back in 2008

I absolutely hope so, because Far Cry 1 was amazing, and 2 was fucking awful.

I pre-ordered based on these reviews.

Tony M

11-22-2012, 02:25 AM

I'm so happy!

Universal Leader

11-22-2012, 02:22 PM

I absolutely hope so, because Far Cry 1 was amazing, and 2 was fucking awful.

Madness.

Blips

11-22-2012, 03:00 PM

Madness.
+1, like, etc.

Marcin

11-22-2012, 03:49 PM

+1, like, etc.

For srs.

Anyone know why the GMG Far Cry 3 preorder page has no action button? Is it just me or did they sell out of preorder or such?

hardcorebabbler

11-22-2012, 04:55 PM

For srs.

Anyone know why the GMG Far Cry 3 preorder page has no action button? Is it just me or did they sell out of preorder or such?

Think it was just a time-limited deal. If you search for the game on the actual site it doesn't show up.

Anyway yeah, I had fully planned on ignoring this game, but it sounds awesome and I'm definitely getting it at some point. I liked Far Cry 2 a lot but the constant "hey yet another enemy checkpoint or truck or whatever" drove me nuts, and I didn't even get that far in the game.

unic

11-22-2012, 06:07 PM

So what is up with this not being available via Steam in the UK? http://www.computerandvideogames.com/380174/assassins-creed-3-far-cry-3-unavailable-on-uk-steam-store/

Weirdness - I was definitely planning on getting the game. But if it doesn't come to Steam, I don't know if I'll bother.

TurinTur

11-23-2012, 12:22 AM

It's not the first time there are some shenanigans in Steam games being released later for the UK region. It happened to a few games in 2010-2011. I suspect deals with retail chains.

Reemul

11-23-2012, 01:49 AM

It's not the first time there are some shenanigans in Steam games being released later for the UK region. It happened to a few games in 2010-2011. I suspect deals with retail chains.

Yeah but this hasn't happened for a while now, seems stupid to me.

TurinTur

11-23-2012, 02:06 AM

The game looks good, very good on PC. But come on, the hardware requisites are over the top:

http://www.abload.de/img/far-cry-3-test-gpus-13ir6i.png

A decent gpu like a gtx 460 only doing 14 fps??? And this is with an I7.

I suspect this game, and AC3, have below average optimizations for the pc versions. The pc versions look better than the console versions, but not as much as to justify the hardware jump.

BleedTheFreak

11-23-2012, 05:06 AM

Generally, if you turn shadows down you get quite a return on FPS. Though I need to run it at 1920x1200 and I really like me at least some 2x AA, so we'll see how that goes with my 570.

Also, I imagine both NVidia and ATI will (shortly) have driver support for the game to provide a big performance boost.

Alistair

11-23-2012, 06:53 AM

Deary me, that looks awful :( I don't think RPS/Eurogamer said it was that weak... some popup I think I remember them saying.

Rock8man

11-23-2012, 07:13 AM

Wow my 5850HD card won't do too well with this game on max settings. My monitor's only 1280x1024 so that should help me a bit (I tried a wide screen monitor for a while but hated how games like Supreme Commander handled wide screens, so now I use that spare monitor for my spare 360 instead and went back to my 1280x1024, which is all I need).

I wonder if I should go with 360 version again. There should be a lot of difference between the two versions this time. I was disappointed at how there was almost no visible difference between 360 and PC last time. I foolishly bought both versions last time at full price.

TurinTur

11-23-2012, 07:33 AM

My hope is that maybe this is one of those games where "ultra" settings looks just a bit nicer than "medium"-"high" settings but fps drops greatly in Ultra; because the graphic is in the maximum settings.

BleedTheFreak

11-23-2012, 08:03 AM

Yeah, for all we know these "max settings" could include some sort of The Witcher 2 style UberSampling that is just KILLING those results. I'm not super worried about it.

TurinTur

11-23-2012, 08:13 AM

In fact, look at this

Maximum: 27 fps
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/screenshots/original/2012/11/Far-Cry-3-Test-DX11-Maximale-Details-4x-MSAA-A2C.png

Minimum (still in dx11): 98 fps
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/screenshots/original/2012/11/Far-Cry-3-Test-DX11-Minimale-Details.png

The LOD is better at maximum, object count is higher, shadows and aliasing are also a bit better... but it doesn't look that different! And it runs three times faster with less detail!

TurinTur

11-23-2012, 08:48 AM

Pc Gamer (Tom Francis) says... 89!
http://www.pcgamer.com/review/far-cry-3-review/
A huge and excitingly rich open world. Prowl it like a hunter, plan sneaky attacks, and turn the animal kingdom into bags.

quarryman

11-23-2012, 09:42 AM

Blips

11-23-2012, 09:50 AM

So any mention of difficulty levels yet? I loved how tactical Far Cry 2 became at the hardest setting as the player could be dropped with just a few bullets.

Vincent19

11-23-2012, 12:06 PM

Really can't wait for this. Far Cry 2 was one of my favorite games of 2008, and this is looking to be even better. Sounds like the emergent gameplay is getting kicked up a notch this time around with the inclusion of wild animals.

As for the performance, it's worth noting that that chart is measuring the game with 4x MSAA applied (not sure why it says "no AA" on the top). From what I've been hearing, the MSAA and SSAO are massive performance hits here, disabling those should help a lot. Additionally, new drivers will probably be released to help smooth out performance, so we shall see how it all turns out.

moss_icon

11-23-2012, 12:31 PM

Bring back AMiGA Power and the 0-100 scale actually being used. Kick Off '96 famous for getting a 1 :-) (http://amr.abime.net/review_1774)
Got to love the rating of 1 because those who purchased the game MIGHT starve to death as they spent money on a game instead of food :)

ah, the mighty stuart campbell!

Vincent19

11-23-2012, 09:06 PM

Video of using the wing suit to climb a radio tower. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7PQa-zT-oQk)

I need this game so very much.

Marcin

11-23-2012, 11:21 PM

Video of using the wing suit to climb a radio tower. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7PQa-zT-oQk)

I need this game so very much.

*drool*

That right there. Preorder. Just like that. Who needs stupid fancy pants CGI trailers?

That looked a bit like more realistic, first person Just Cause 2. :D

lordkosc

11-23-2012, 11:28 PM

It could have been only more awesome if it was called a flying squirrel suit, and you had to craft it by killing squirrels.

TurinTur

11-24-2012, 12:13 AM

It could have been only more awesome if it was called a flying squirrel suit, and you had to craft it by killing squirrels.

The only weird thing here is that it doesn't work as you say! The game already have a fetish for skinning animals and use their skins as inventory upgrades.

From Pc Gamer

Hunting wild game to make bags out of their skin is another. Guns, money, syringes and all types of ammunition require their own special container, and every size of every container can only be made from the skin of one particular species of animal. And while guns, money, syringes and all types of ammunition are abundantly available on the island, its people have apparently never invented the bag.