Starting up another Werewolf Style Game

[Claycw]

Well enough time has passed since my last venture into running a werewolf style game (http://www.quartertothree.com/game-talk/showthread.php?t=50447&highlight=werewolf) and I have decided to do another one. Most of the ground work is layed out but I need to see how many people would be interested in doing another one before I can finish everything up.

what say you?

Current Players:

IGJoe
Equis
Murph
Kael
DanielElliot
Gladguy
Jellyfish
Demon G sides
RussellMZ00
Oracle
Kwhit
Calistas
Juan Rayo
Lazy shiftless Bastard
Mike O'Malley
Wisbechlad
Conrad
Ninyu
Raife

[IGJoe]

I'd love to play.

[Equis]

What's the setting this time? Or is that a secret? Either way, I'm in if the 12 hour time difference doesn't bother anyone.

[Claycw]

The setting is going to be kept secret till the actual game is posted, I think all of you will like it.

[Murph]

I love these games. Count me in.

[Kael]

I'd love to play!

[DanielElliot]

I'd like to play. It'll be my first one.

[Claycw]

There are actually alot of spots available for this game so please continue to sign up.

[Gladguy]

I'm in. Though I tend to get killed off right near the beginning.

[jellyfish]

I am ready to lose my virginity.

[Demon G Sides]

I"ve played in a great lot of them since I've been here. Hell, I was 'in charge' in the last one. I should be burnt out on these.

Never.

Sign me up.

[russellmz00]

i'm in. if there's a guy who never played before and he gets in after, feel free to give him my spot.

I'm in. Though I tend to get killed off right near the beginning.

me too! except in the thing game where i was only tested first.

[Claycw]

Glad to see people from my last one sign up for this one.

[0racle]

Hey, I'll give it a shot if you'll have me. I don't post alot, but been around a long time and really enjoyed reading the last one you did Clay.

[KWhit]

I'll play. I play these games all the time on another board. It would be cool to play one here.

[Sarkus]

Glad to see people from my last one sign up for this one.

Not me!

Just kidding. :-) I'm passing because I don't have the time right now and think it's only fair that other people get a chance.

[Raife]

Yeah, I'd jump in but I don't really have the time right now. I'm happy to watch paranoid people savage each other from the sidelines, though.

[Siren]

God, I'd love to. With Qt3 blocked at work, sadly, I don't think that I'll be able to.

[Calistas]

I'll play! Someone tell me how to play too...

[Claycw]

Siren, Sarkus, Raife

that sux, but understand. If you can find a way love to have ya play. I really need to get alot more people to sign up.

[Juan Rayo]

x me for this
Erm, that is, yeah I want to play

[IGJoe]

x me for this
Erm, that is, yeah I want to play

Only a werewolf would be so eager...

[Claycw]

Still needing more players, don't get left out sign up today :)

[Claycw]

I'm really looking to get about 6-8 more players for this thing.

[Lazy Shiftless Bastard]

A 20+ person brawl? That sounds interesting. I'll sign up for it, as long as we don't require unanimous votes!

[Claycw]

Got 15 if we can get 5 more it would be perfect.

[Conrad]

I'm in. Let's do this.

[Claycw]

My plan is to start this up tomorrow, if you want in please let me know. There is plenty of room in the game and the it is designed the more people the better.

[Ninyu]

I'm game! Count me in. I enjoyed the last one.

[Raife]

FINE, I'll PLAY THE STUPID GAME.

[Equis]

FINE, I'll PLAY THE STUPID GAME.

Hey, if you don't have time, we can always stake you first. :)

[Raife]

Hey, if you don't have time, we can always stake you first. :)

Bring it!

[Claycw]

OK not to be a dick but why are people not involved in the game posting in the game thread?

[salwon]

I'm in, if you still have slots.

[Claycw]

I am sorry Salwon, the game is already posted, I would have to restart and re-roll everyones characters to add you to it now.

[Murph]

Space ships...SWEEEEET.

[CLWheeljack]

Captain Voorhees ... Weaver, RScott, JCarp, and KRussel


I get Voorhees, Weaver, and KRussel, but who are RScott and JCarp?

[Michael Fitch]

Greetings:
I'm going to guess Ridley Scott and John Carpenter.

Best,
Michael.

[Sarkus]

I get Voorhees, Weaver, and KRussel, but who are RScott and JCarp?

Probably made up players to fill out the roster, as Clay did the same thing last time? Not that they lasted very long . . . :-)

The spaceship idea is cool. I've been thinking about doing one for a while since they seem a rather rare setting for these types of games so it'll be interesting to see what Clay does with it.

[Claycw]

You are correct, Sigourney Weaver - Ridley Scott - Kurt Russel - John Carpenter & Jason Hoorhees.

[Juan Rayo]

You are correct, Sigourney Weaver - Ridley Scott - Kurt Russel - John Carpenter & Jason Hoorhees.

Lies. If one of them was Kurt Russel we would all be saved :)

[balut]

Lies. If one of them was Kurt Russel we would all be saved :)

I'd watch out for crewman Lpan, even if he does look like an ancient basketcase on wheels.

[jellyfish]

Weaver and JCarp enter the Cryo. Chamber, each of them holding a stack of data disks. “They are an older format, but I am pretty sure that we can salvage the information on them and hopefully see what happened on the ship.”

Omg! 5 1/4 inch floppies!

[Claycw]

You know I almost called them data crystals when I was writing this because I thought the same thing when I wrote it.

[Juste]

This looks like a ton of fun. I'm jealous that I did not see this before the game launched.

[CLWheeljack]

I do enjoy reading these games, even if I'm not playing.

jellyfish's comments just keep reminding me of Roger Wilco. I really ought to buy the Space Quest collection, I never played the last one.

[Scrax]

They be harping on your grammar Clay! Time to airlock the lot of them!

Honestly though, as a whole, the writing is much better so far than the previous werewolf game. I love the diagrams too. Everybody loves diagrams! Now I can meticulously plot the rate of travel of humans against sub-humans. Oh wait, are there hatches? There have to be hatches? WHERE ARE THE HATCHES!?!

[Claycw]

Everyone one is a critic I guess Scrax. Side note was my writing really that bad in the last one :(
I will have to go back and reread it.

[Cormac]

So, am I too late to sign up as well?

[jellyfish]

It's funny when I see someone from the game posting in another thread. It's like, oh so you think that movie is crap? Or you didn't like that game, or something? Infected! That's what you are! Then I am like all, wait a second....

[Mike O'Malley]

Kael played it a bit too hard. Whoever infected him thought a bit too big.

[jellyfish]

It seems the consensus is that he was only recently infected. This was hinted at by the narrator. He was really just trying to take charge, which is cool. Then this either set him up as a target to be infected, or it was just bad luck. Now the hapless crew is leaderless. We'll see if someone else steps up to save the day. If the aliens target the potential troublemakers, then it is probably best to keep a low profile. But in order to win the team needs a leader.

[Equis]

I have to say I really enjoy jellyfish's posts in the game thread. That being said, I feel like if players discuss strat outside the game thread, it kinda ruins the vibe and spirit of the game and the players keeping stuff to the PMs. I don't wanna be all thread cop and all, but hopefully we get to do the post mortem strat stuff here and let the game and the ship take it's course?

[jellyfish]

Okay Equis, point taken.

[CLWheeljack]

Possibly questionable speculation about game mechanics below, Clay, let me know if it's not okay with you, or anything. I know I'm not playing the game, and I don't want to mess it up.


So, in addition to werewolves, there's sometimes "werewolf sympathizers" too, aren't there? Like maybe, partially, but not totally infected, in this case? Since this is a pretty complex game, it might have them. Maybe Jellyfish is being driven slowly insane by the alien parasites, but he isn't actually infected himself (ie. can't infect others, but can work to undermine the survivors, etc). I guess it's a natural pitfall of playing in a forum rather than in the same room: you don't know who's playing harder because they're playing a role in the game, and who's playing hard just because they're enjoying the fiction and contributing to the atmosphere.

[Claycw]

No, I don't have a problem with people speculating on how the game works as long as a player doesn't post on how the game does work. I think part of the fun in these games is figuring out exactly what is going on behind the scenes. As with the last game when this one is over I will post on everything going on behind the curtain.

[Ninyu]

So, in regards to the toolbox we found. Do I spend 1 day searching the toolbox and then another day using what we find? Or could this all happen in one day in place of a normal search?

[Alan Au]

This is great! The challenge is that the full story won't come out until everything wraps up because there are presumably private reports to various individuals, and communications that the spectators aren't seeing. I wouldn't be surprised if multiple crew members had... "other" agendas that are as yet unrevealed.

- Alan

[CLWheeljack]

As a non-player, I wish I could peek behind Clay's GM screen, so that I could appreciate the unfolding drama as it comes. Too bad there's no way to do that without allowing information to disseminate to the players.

[Kael]

If its cool with Tom and everyone I am going to run a game after Claycw's. I'll start the signup thread after Claycw's is complete.

For those that missed the opportunity to join in this one, and so that Claycw can play (instead of just moderating) stay tuned. Another game is on its way, though with a very different theme.

[Cormac]

excellent! looking forward to it...

[antifood]

I would like to give this a try.

[KWhit]

If its cool with Tom and everyone I am going to run a game after Claycw's. I'll start the signup thread after Claycw's is complete.

For those that missed the opportunity to join in this one, and so that Claycw can play (instead of just moderating) stay tuned. Another game is on its way, though with a very different theme.

I'm somewhat addicted to these types of games.

On another board I frequent we're about to have our 100th ww-type game (I haven't played in them all, of course, but I have played in a lot of them). We're celebrating by having all players make a rule to put into the game before the game starts. It's going to be an "interesting" one for sure.

[0racle]

I had a blast playing. I got killed but i still had fun

[Murph]

I'm always down for a game...of course, since I'm playing in the current game, put me down for a slot if there's room, but people not playing this game should get priority.

[Sarkus]

Things have definately been interesting so far, so congrats to Clay and the players on that.

To be honest, though, it's hard not to want to comment on things I see. But, that doesn't seem like a fair thing to do when active players are in this thread as well.

[Conrad]

Does the forum software support a way to lock the players out of the comment thread?

[Demon G Sides]

I am undone. Oh well. Good ride guys :D I can't wait for the breakdown. I will continue to watch the thread with unyielding intensity until my fellow infected eat the rest of the non-infected :D

[0racle]

it's not the way I hoped you'd go Demon, I hoped you'd choke on some piece of me you had stored away somewhere.

[Demon G Sides]

No way. You were delicious. We threw you in one of my cooking pots and made a nice casserole out of your entire body.

[Sarkus]

Does the forum software support a way to lock the players out of the comment thread?

No. However, in most of these types of games that I've played or followed the rule has been that active players aren't supposed to read or post in the comment thread for dead players and observers. The idea is to make sure active players aren't tipped into doing something they otherwise wouldn't have done. Of course it's all honor based as far as enforcement goes since there is no way anyone would know who has read what.

But we discussed this with Clay's last game and he doesn't feel like he needs to have that rule, which is obviously his call.

[Claycw]

well your right they probably shouldn't post in another thread about the game, but it is next to impossible to keep them from reading the other thread. If people start posting things that reveal too much about the game then I would have an issue with it.

[Raife]

Kristin Shepard shot J.R.

[Ninyu]

Damnit, Raife! I had that Tivo'd!

[0racle]

Good they got another one. Hope I tasted good cause I'm probably the last meal you aliens are gonna enjoy. Humans are better than aliens.

[Conrad]

Hope I tasted good...

You did.

burps

[russellmz00]

Good they got another one. Hope I tasted good cause I'm probably the last meal you aliens are gonna enjoy. Humans are better than aliens.

the correct one liner before being eaten by a monster is always going to be, i hope i give you the shits (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0280609/quotes).

[Sarkus]

I get the impression that Wisbechlad's RL (understandably) has had an impact on things in this game.

[Raife]

Hey Clay, I'm totally cool with you being tied up with BlizzCon, but I'd ask that you not crank up the time compression to try to catch up (not assuming that you would). Some of us aren't on the intertubes 25/8.

[Claycw]

I won't. RL always has to come before a game, good thing about this type game it's doesn't have to be done real fast. but at the same time go to slow and people loose interest. which I hope hasn't happened in my absence.

[Murph]

I KNEW it was IGJoe. Became even more convinced of that when I woke up dead.

[Claycw]

The one thing I have found interesting is when they actually pick a creature they get it on vote one.

[IGJoe]

I wasn't as sneaky as I was hoping to be! Drat!

Sorry Murph!

[Murph]

You were sneaky enough that it took me three rounds to get them to scan you, lol.

[Cormac]

Just wondering... After all that searching, is there really nothing that can be done with the discovered stuff?

[Claycw]

There is actually lot of stuff that can be done not to put too fine a point on it. There are several role specific items that have and can be found that have certain functions. some of them have been put to use others have not. The only thing people have really done with the bulk of items is say "I take all the items and play with them to see if I can make anything" or my favorite "I take the penis pump, the chocolate pudding and athe soldering gun and combine them" which did have an end result. Most of the stuff found is worthless crap, but some things have really interesting uses. And I have actually been surprised by the lack of use of some items found.

[Raife]

I'll be out of town this weekend as well, with sporadic access to the internet. Any chance we can hold until Sunday night?

[Juan Rayo]

I just want to say, before I went down? I called dibs on all y'all eyes. And a pinkie toe.

[0racle]

Give me back my hand held torch you scum.

[Sarkus]

So . . . this is taking a long time to resolve, isn't it?

[Raife]

I put on my robe and wizard hat.

[Murph]

Huh. Didn't see that coming.

[Demon G Sides]

The Monsters win! Woohoo! I honestly didn't think we would've.

[Raife]

That's interesting. Looking forward to reading the breakdown, Clay.

[Conrad]

Our spawn, it lives on!

high-fives Demon

[Demon G Sides]

Hells to the yeah Conrad. Original Spawn 4 Lyfe.

[Scrax]

I must say, it was a pleasure to witness Jellyfish's insanity. I was surprised every day he survived, and further surprised that nobody scanned him again.

[Murph]

Yeah, I was really surprised at some of the later choices...but late in the game, it gets hard to judge who is and who is not.

I feel like a lot of opportunities were missed RE: the items, but when I was around I didn't even know what to suggest.

[Tman]

A few things:

1. I think you all neglected to use was the one functioning cyrostasis pod that was detected early on.

It's kind of like a scan - you could have used it to put someone in there to at least neutrallize the infection spread, but alas you did not.

Also - FFS the sonic emitter is used to keep a person safe for a night. Why you thought it would detect monsters is beyond me. You could have used these to keep one person from being infected.

From the hand-held torches, these could have also been used to keep someone safe. Eg, say you're going to bed and putting the torch on the nightstand or something, or when you go searching, say you're taking the torch with you.

It seemed you were too reliant on scanning when you had other things available to you to keep the infection from spreading.

Good read, I enjoyed following along.

[Murph]

Also - FFS the sonic emitter is used to keep a person safe for a night. Why you thought it would detect monsters is beyond me.

Well, as one of the people who thought that...if it will keep you safe, then it obviously has some affect on the creature (though possibly only in creature form.) Putting everyone in one room and turning it on seems like it should've caused a reaction from someone.

Unless the GM deemed that cheating, which I could totally respect. :-)

[Conrad]

Demon and I were the original creatures. I knew immediately that neither of us would last until the endgame, since everyone was certain to get tested at least once. Our starting plan was to get our numbers up as soon as possible, which meant turning whenever possible.

Demon was AWOL on day 1, so the decision to turn Kael was mine. My first thought was to turn Rayo since he'd just been tested, but that seemed to be the most obvious play by far. I was hoping the fact that it was so obvious would get him retested on Day 2, and we could turn him then. I liked this play since him being tested a third time would be unlikely for quite awhile. I ultimately chose Kael since he seemed to have stepped up as a trusted voice without drawing much suspicion. I expected he could spend a couple days influencing the the votes before getting tested. That clearly didn't work out, since the masses turned on him immediately and
burned him the following night. Still, it was useful since he had been chatting privately with Rayo, and we found out that Rayo had Demon and I fingered freakishly early (by luck, I believe, but still...). So Kael gets burned, Rayo gets retested according to plan, and we turn Rayo that night.

I did my first search privately hoping I could game it a little, claiming I searched SickBay D but actually searching Science Lab F. I thought this approach would allow me to effectively "consume" 2 search locations each night with little risk. I caught enough heat for searching privately that I thought it might be a fatal mistake. Thankfully it didn't do me in, and I didn't pursue it further in the interests of staying alive.

The next day, someone gave the torch they found to Rayo, which was kind of funny and was a nice validation that he was above suspicion for a few days.

Day 3's tests are uneventful. IGJoe was one of those who passed the testing, and we chose to turn him that night, giving us our maximum population of 4 creatures. I was hoping we could all survive the next
days' tests, which would open it up for us to kill someone outright.

I was starting to worry about special roles at about this point. If there was a seer-type out there, cracking his circle would be critical. I was worried about OMalley in particular, for some reason.

The next day, I didn't get my vote in in time, but they missed us completely. We choose to take out 0racle. Afterwards, Clay lets us know that we could now have a max of 5 creatures. My search turned up the Master Engineer's toolbox, and it was immediately clear that I had to give it to Ninyu without fuss. So I gave it to him, expecting he'd spend his next search turn investigating it.

My plan at this point was to turn Ninyu and game the results of the toolbox investigation by potentially having him lie about the results. That plan died a quick death, though, as he did the investigation immediately and announced his plans to install the fingerprint scanner that night. I was concerned this would make Ninyu untouchable, until I realized we might still be able to turn him that night while it was being installed. Clay confirmed we could do this, so we took what would presumably be our last opportunity to turn him. My dream scenario was to get him tested again that day, but that didn't happen. My other hope was that folks would consider Ninyu untouchable beginning that night, instead of the following night, so he would be strongly trusted.

The next day's vote was clearly headed for Demon, so I jumped on that train early, throwing in a vote for IGJoe for good measure. This was to lay the groundwork for my inevitable test in the coming days -- anyone looking at the vote patterns would hopefully have reduced suspicion for IGJoe. Oddly, Demon seemed unexpectedly upset at being tested. I thought he was being overly defensive in the thread, but he seemed very anxious in our creature cabal conversations as well.

To this point I had been lobbying publicly for retesting. My ulterior motive was to slow down the progress of testing everyone once, which would help protect me and Demon longer.

This was the day Raife found the glowy stone, which worried me. I wanted to turn Raife that night, or Kwhit since he was chief science officer, but the group went with DaneilElliot since he was hottest on the trail in terms of sniffing us out.

So Demon goes down, and it looks like I'm on the docket to be tested the following day. I passed off my stuff to Ninyu, hoping that it the blood in particular may be useful for for planting down the road. My parting
strategy suggestions were to start voting for each other, to consider a sacrifice down the road (Juan Rayo even volunteered), and to reinforce the falsehood that Ninyu is human due to his fingerprint scanner. I'm due to be tested 2nd, but Wisbechlad meets an untimely demise (I suspect he voluntarily left the game, as we didn't off him), so the vote adjustments put me first and I get burned. A fair trade I suppose -- the humans get an extra test out of it and the creatures get one less human to deal with.

Interestingly, around this time LSB posts an analysis that exactly names, though doesn't directly accuse, the remaining creatures other than me.

Anyway, it was a fun game. Thanks for running it, Clay!

[Claycw]

Clay confirmed we could do this, so we took what would presumably be our last opportunity to turn him. My dream scenario was to get him tested again that day, but that didn't happen. My other hope was that folks would consider Ninyu untouchable beginning that night, instead of the following night, so he would be strongly trusted.


Just so people don't think that conversation went down as "Hey clay can we turn him or is he beyond touching already" all I did was confirm that they could try and turn him if they wanted to.

[Juan Rayo]

No luck on it, I had you pegged good because of the posting, but nobody picked it up and I, being a rather histrionic doctor, moved on.... to eat acouple of the others. THAT'S WHAT YOU GET FOR NOT TRUSTING EL JUAN!

[Conrad]

No luck on it, I had you pegged good because of the posting, but nobody picked it up and I, being a rather histrionic doctor, moved on.... to eat acouple of the others. THAT'S WHAT YOU GET FOR NOT TRUSTING EL JUAN!

The posting was sheer coincidence, which is why I called it luck. Either way, I was more than a little relieved when it didn't catch on.

[Alan Au]

Well, played! I'm impressed that the creatures were able to stay one step ahead of the torch and door-lock. I was sort of hoping for some alternate victory conditions, but it seems like there were already plenty of hidden interactions that simply went unrevealed.

- Alan

[Claycw]

I was actually kinda surprised no one thought of Combining the Bunson burner, petri dishes, copper wire, and Syringe as this would have resulted in a third test.

[Cormac]

I was actually kinda surprised no one thought of Combining the Bunson burner, petri dishes, copper wire, and Syringe as this would have resulted in a third test.
I'm guessing this is a reference to "The Thing"? Have to confess I've never seen that... Otherwise why would anyone think of combining those items? petri dish / syringe / bunsen burner I could maybe get, but copper wire? Not sure how that would help the equation...

[Tman]

I'm guessing this is a reference to "The Thing"? Have to confess I've never seen that... Otherwise why would anyone think of combining those items? petri dish / syringe / bunsen burner I could maybe get, but copper wire? Not sure how that would help the equation...

Take some blood, put it into the petri dish, heat the copper wire with the bunsen burner and apply the hot wire to the blood in the petri dish.

the point being that every cell in an alien is alive and will react unlike normal human blood.

Watch The Thing already.

[antifood]

Whats up with the super hero names? I had fun with the game. It was initially frustrating because everything we wanted to do would break the game.

[Cormac]

Kael started a superhero game after this one had ended and quite a few of us jumped in again. The twist is that for the duration of this game (or however long we survive) our names have been changed to our characters.

[antifood]

That's really cool, is it too late to join?

[Cormac]

I think so.. All the characters that Kael offered up have been taken, though I guess you could contact him and ask if there is room for 1 more?

[antifood]

I will do just that! I don't know how I missed the thread.

[Demon G Sides]

Damn, how did I miss the superhero thread?

ALso, really good game Clay. My only problem with this style (Testing) is that everyone can be tested, which really causes for a more casualty ridden game.

[Claycw]

Damn, how did I miss the superhero thread?

ALso, really good game Clay. My only problem with this style (Testing) is that everyone can be tested, which really causes for a more casualty ridden game.

While I understand your thinking, I wanted to do a game where everyone got a chance to really get involved and actually play. Too many times in these games people are out before it even gets started. The way I set the game up people had the chance to get involved and make a difference with their choices. I'm not sure how it caused a more casualty ridden game. As an example look at Jellyfish, He played a superb game, Here's a guy that was tested only once and was turned on like day 6.

[Demon G Sides]

Don't get me wrong, its an interesting game type and I had a lot of fun while I lived, I'm just honestly surprised that the infected one; there were some really unlucky votes on the human side.

[Claycw]

I will tell you I normaly root for the werewolf types in these games, because it can be tough to keep people off your trail. But by the end of this one I felt bad for the humans and was hoping they would pull a miracle out of their ass, I'm not sure what was going on behind the scenes but the voting was all over the board they never seemed to get on track, and just when I would think their on to the creatures with their statements they would vote a totally different way.

[Cormac]

Cool game Clay.. eh.. Superman!
I thought it was a good variation to keep the scanned individuals in the game. And I have to agree, well played Jelly!

[antifood]

Jelly did a good job.

[jellyfish]

It was beginners luck. I never played this kind of game before and I had no idea what I was doing.

[russellmz00]

It was beginners luck. I never played this kind of game before and I had no idea what I was doing.

still brilliantly done. the instinct of a turned person is to go quiet to avoid attracting attention.