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Anaxagoras
03-18-2009, 02:08 PM
Linky (http://www.newsweek.com/id/189779)


Bush declined to critique the Obama administration in Tuesday's speech, saying the new president has enough critics and that he "deserves my silence."

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"I love my country a lot more than I love politics," Bush said. "I think it is essential that he be helped in office."

I... I'm actually liking ex-president Bush. Where the fuck was this man during the Bush presidency? The second quote is particularly interesting to me; Bush's placement of partisan politics above the common good was a major reason I had no respect for the man. Is he just too stupid to understand what "partisan politics" are?

In any case... good on Bush for his speech. Not that his ex-followers will pay any attention, I'm sure. They've got some lib'ruls to go tear down.

Johan O
03-18-2009, 02:15 PM
Linky (http://www.newsweek.com/id/189779)



I... I'm actually liking ex-president Bush. Where the fuck was this man during the Bush presidency? The second quote is particularly interesting to me; Bush's placement of partisan politics above the common good was a major reason I had no respect for the man. Is he just too stupid to understand what "partisan politics" are?

In any case... good on Bush for his speech. Not that his ex-followers will pay any attention, I'm sure. They've got some lib'ruls to go tear down.
Perhaps Bush believes that everyone should fall in line behind the man at the helm, be it him or Obama. Which would be consistent with this and his behaviour inoffice.

extarbags
03-18-2009, 02:16 PM
Oh, fuck him. It'll take more than not actively sabotaging the Obama administration to earn even an ounce of my respect.

Adam B
03-18-2009, 02:37 PM
I'm all for people not being loudmouthed Cheney-esque douchemobiles, but this is fucking insane:
"I actually paid for a house last fall. I think I'm the only American to have bought a house in the fall of 2008," he quipped.
...

Seriously? You're joking about the worst economic landscape most of us have ever seen, and that your policies had a significant hand in creating?

Fucking giant belly laugh time! Silly plebes, they can't afford anything right now! Har har har!

Maybe I've got too puckered of a liberal butthole, but man did that rub me wrong.

Aleck
03-18-2009, 02:46 PM
Linky (http://www.newsweek.com/id/189779)

I... I'm actually liking ex-president Bush. Where the fuck was this man during the Bush presidency? The second quote is particularly interesting to me; Bush's placement of partisan politics above the common good was a major reason I had no respect for the man. Is he just too stupid to understand what "partisan politics" are?

In any case... good on Bush for his speech. Not that his ex-followers will pay any attention, I'm sure. They've got some lib'ruls to go tear down.

I think you're forgetting: talk is cheap. It's much easier to decry partisan politics when you're not part of it anymore. And, realistically, all ex-presidents are more likeable than they were when they were presidents.

Plus Bush is probably nervous about someone beaning him with a shoe.

Dirt
03-18-2009, 03:00 PM
Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Bush no longer has absolute power.

Linoleum
03-18-2009, 03:08 PM
Bush is merely following national tradition here. It would be surprising if he didn't.

Coca Cola Zero
03-18-2009, 03:09 PM
Seriously? You're joking about the worst economic landscape most of us have ever seen, and that your policies had a significant hand in creating?

Fucking giant belly laugh time! Silly plebes, they can't afford anything right now! Har har har!

Maybe I've got too puckered of a liberal butthole, but man did that rub me wrong.


I was anti-Bush way before it was cool and I actually dislike him more now than ever, but I don't find his joke to be offensive. I don't find it particularly funny, either, but I've laughed at jokes about far worse things than a recession. Laughing and joking about things, even bad things, perhaps especially bad things, is perfectly normal.

Tim James
03-18-2009, 03:14 PM
I was about to say that the real outrage is that people still actually want to pay to hear a speech from failures like Bush or invite loser ex Federal Reserve Chairmen and Treasury Secretaries onto their television shows.

But I guess if you want to know what not to do, it's money worth spending. Not that these guys will volunteer their lessons learned; you'll have to read between the lines or just do the opposite of what comes out of their mouths.

Aeon221
03-18-2009, 03:18 PM
Plus Bush is probably nervous about someone beaning him with a shoe.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090312/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_iraq

Not anymore he isn't.

Mordrak
03-18-2009, 03:26 PM
I wish he'd discovered his love of country over politics 8 years ago.

Andrew Mayer
03-18-2009, 03:36 PM
Really?
You guys are going to get suckered again by his words speak louder than actions BS?

He can afford to be magnanimous now that no-one cares.

JeffL
03-18-2009, 04:51 PM
And, realistically, all ex-presidents are more likeable than they were when they were presidents.


After last year, I'm not sure Bill Clinton falls in that category.

And no, not all Presidents are silent on the current president from another party. Bush Sr. was pretty silent on Clinton, even went out of his way to not criticize him when prodded. Carter was pretty much just the opposite.

I know this isn't a popular view here, but I do think that Bush Jr. truly loves his country and wants what is best for it. I just think he was completely incompetent and surrounded by evil people.

MarchHare
03-18-2009, 05:05 PM
I was about to say that the real outrage is that people still actually want to pay to hear a speech from failures like Bush


The crowd consisted of nothing but oil industry executives. They all made record profits while Bush was president, largely because the invasion of Iraq drove the price of oil sky-high. If anyone is going to pay $400 to hear Bush speak, it's those guys.

Robert Sharp
03-18-2009, 05:11 PM
Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Bush no longer has absolute power.

Acton never mentioned that you could get better! For some reason I thought corruption was chronic.

Aeon221
03-18-2009, 06:28 PM
Acton never mentioned that you could get better! For some reason I thought corruption was chronic.

http://www.hempdepot.ca/seeds/serious/images/serious_chronic2.jpg

Funkula
03-18-2009, 07:20 PM
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8148/narnia20logo.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=narnia20logo.jpg)

Raife
03-18-2009, 08:12 PM
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3503/giantisopod.jpg

CLWheeljack
03-18-2009, 09:14 PM
Holy crap, what is that demon head crab thing, some kind of horseshoe crab? It has like 20 legs! That is terrifying.

shift6
03-19-2009, 07:31 AM
Maybe I've got too puckered of a liberal butthole, but man did that rub me wrong.
This. I mean let's take a step back and be honest: if Colbert had somehow worked this line into a routine of his, you'd have laughed even if considering it somewhat black comedy.

WarrenM
03-19-2009, 07:46 AM
The difference being that Colbert didn't have a hand in creating the fucked up situation that he would then be joking about.

shift6
03-19-2009, 07:53 AM
Me, I don't generally perform hard-hitting analysis on light-hearted comedy. meh

Tortilla
03-19-2009, 07:57 AM
I know this isn't a popular view here, but I do think that Bush Jr. truly loves his country and wants what is best for it. I just think he was completely incompetent and surrounded by evil people.


Well said, and I completely agree. It's a little sad how much people have demonized him when there's no evidence he's an evil man. To paraphrase (and mangle) Napoleon's famous quote, there's no need to ascribe malevolent motives to someone like Bush when incompetence would explain his actions.

Moggraider
03-19-2009, 07:57 AM
Linky (http://www.newsweek.com/id/189779)

In any case... good on Bush for his speech. Not that his ex-followers will pay any attention, I'm sure. They've got some lib'ruls to go tear down.

I don't know about anyone else, but what Bush said seemed patronizing to me.

WarrenM
03-19-2009, 08:06 AM
Bush wasn't evil, he was stupid and incompetent. Cheney handled the evil.

Lorini
03-19-2009, 09:12 AM
I disagree. He sent Americans to die in a war that he started for his own egotistic selfish purposes. That defines evil to me.

Andrew Mayer
03-19-2009, 09:13 AM
Bush wasn't evil, he was stupid and incompetent. Cheney handled the evil.

Willfully stupid, and aggressively incompetent. But it seems to me he knew enough about the US torture policy to qualify.

Also his willfull inaction on Katrina, Stem Cells, WMDs, Clear Skies, and all the rest of their BS easily qualifies him for evil status.

Adam B
03-19-2009, 09:14 AM
Got that from a clip of some rich old white guy making fun of lib'ruls at CPAC.

noun
03-19-2009, 09:54 AM
Holy crap, what is that demon head crab thing, some kind of horseshoe crab? It has like 20 legs! That is terrifying.

According to the image properties, it's one of these. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_isopod)

Talisker
03-19-2009, 10:47 AM
http://lantzy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/giantisopoddoritos.jpg

Gendal
03-19-2009, 08:06 PM
http://i39.tinypic.com/27zx4zp.jpg
Deep sea gigantism is awesome.

Andrew Mayer
03-19-2009, 08:58 PM
What's crazy about those things is that they look like a scanning electron microscope image.

Cosmic Hippo
03-20-2009, 05:42 AM
http://i43.tinypic.com/2layiib.jpg

We should start a giant isopod caption contest.

Raife
03-20-2009, 06:48 AM
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4757/isopodalbum.jpg

CLWheeljack
03-20-2009, 07:44 AM
You guys are giving me goddamn nightmares, I swear.

Actually, when you can't see their million cthulu legs, they're kinda cute...but still cthulu legs.

dermot
03-20-2009, 07:53 AM
What freaks me the fuck out is that they *eat* those things in Thailand. I mean, who the fuck sees something like that and thinks 'neat! I wonder what it tastes like boiled?'

Anaxagoras
03-20-2009, 07:55 AM
I like the direction this thread has taken.

CLWheeljack
03-20-2009, 07:57 AM
Taiwan != Thailand. (although maybe they eat them in Thailand too)

WarrenM
03-20-2009, 08:13 AM
What freaks me the fuck out is that they *eat* those things in Thailand. I mean, who the fuck sees something like that and thinks 'neat! I wonder what it tastes like boiled?'
Taking a step back it doesn't look THAT much worse than a shrimp or a lobster.

MonkeyPunky
03-20-2009, 09:36 AM
What freaks me the fuck out is that they *eat* those things in Thailand. I mean, who the fuck sees something like that and thinks 'neat! I wonder what it tastes like boiled?'

This makes me wonder about the origins of cheese. I love cheese but I wonder who was the first brave person who let a bunch of milk go bad and then decide, "I'm going to take a taste of that".

wildpokerman
03-20-2009, 09:58 AM
Those eyes are scary and evil looking. Has mankind ever hunted a species to extinction just because they don't like it's looks?

CLWheeljack
03-20-2009, 10:01 AM
I can't find a link to the comic itself, so:

“The more you think about things, the weirder they seem. Take milk for example. Why do we drink COW milk? Who was the guy who first looked at a cow and said. "I think I'll drink whatever comes out of these things when I squeeze 'em!”
- Calvin

Actually, for cheese-making, raw milk is pretty different from pasteurized milk, in that as the milk sours, curds form naturally. So, primitive cheese makers would eat the curds because they needed the calories, and were willing to take the risk on getting sick because they'd starve otherwise. Then they found that it was edible, so they developed better techniques as a preservation method to preserve the calories and nutrients in milk for better storage.

Raife
03-20-2009, 10:09 AM
I like the direction this thread has taken.

Fucking isopod apologists.

shift6
03-20-2009, 10:37 AM
Fuck you, bug.

Eric T Cheng
03-21-2009, 11:26 AM
This makes me wonder about the origins of cheese. I love cheese but I wonder who was the first brave person who let a bunch of milk go bad and then decide, "I'm going to take a taste of that".

Pfft.

Have you heard of the Chinese delicacy bird's nest soup (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird%27s_nest_soup)? The reason it's a delicacy is because of the rare and hard to get ingredient, bird salvia.

Hundreds of years ago, some Chinese guy decided, "Hey! I'm going to go into that cave and take the swift (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edible-nest_Swiftlet)'s nest made from their salvia and make it into a soup!"

svenr
03-22-2009, 02:27 AM
Pfft.

Have you heard of the Chinese delicacy bird's nest soup (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird%27s_nest_soup)? The reason it's a delicacy is because of the rare and hard to get ingredient, bird salvia.

Hundreds of years ago, some Chinese guy decided, "Hey! I'm going to go into that cave and take the swift (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edible-nest_Swiftlet)'s nest made from their salvia and make it into a soup!"

Salvia? That soup sounds like a mindfuck.

Talisker
03-22-2009, 02:38 AM
I mean, who the fuck sees something like that and thinks 'neat! I wonder what it tastes like boiled?'
I wondered that, but then, I'd just watched a couple episodes of Anthony Bourdain eating weird shit in some odd corner of the world.

Hawkeye Fierce
03-22-2009, 06:06 AM
Y'know, for most of the foods that we ask "why would anyone think to eat that?" the answer is probably the same in each case - we saw some animal eat it first. Monkey see, monkey do.

Chris Nahr
03-22-2009, 06:11 AM
Which animals eat bird's nests, though?

Hawkeye Fierce
03-22-2009, 07:31 AM
Which animals eat bird's nests, though?I admit, that one might be an exception. Shellfish and stuff isn't that hard to figure out, though.

Raife
03-22-2009, 09:11 AM
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/6826/nestcola.jpg

Staff Sergeant
03-22-2009, 02:07 PM
Mantis Shrimp are way scarier than those isopods:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/eb/Mantis_shrimp_from_front.jpg/444px-Mantis_shrimp_from_front.jpg

CLWheeljack
03-23-2009, 08:48 AM
Nah, that mantis shrimp is adorable. It's like he has a big pink mustache.

spacerat
03-23-2009, 09:26 AM
Yeah that shrimp is cute. It looks like it should be a mob in WoW.