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Jason McCullough
01-04-2009, 01:07 PM
That's got to look good on the resume (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123086154114948151.html).

To outline his fears about the U.S. economy, Raghuram Rajan picked a tough crowd.

It was August 2005, at an annual gathering of high-powered economists at Jackson Hole, Wyo. -- and that year they were honoring Alan Greenspan. Mr. Greenspan, a giant of 20th-century economic policy, was about to retire as Federal Reserve chairman after presiding over a historic period of economic growth.

Mr. Rajan, a professor at the University of Chicago's Booth Graduate School of Business, chose that moment to deliver a paper called "Has Financial Development Made the World Riskier?"

His answer: Yes.

Mr. Rajan quickly came under attack as an antimarket Luddite, wistful for old days of regulation. Today, however, few are dismissing his ideas. The financial crisis has savaged the reputation of Mr. Greenspan and others now seen as having turned a blind eye toward excessive risk-taking.
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He says he had planned to write about how financial developments during Mr. Greenspan's 18-year tenure made the world safer. But the more he looked, the less he believed that. In the end, with Mr. Greenspan watching from the audience, he argued that disaster might loom.

Incentives were horribly skewed in the financial sector, with workers reaping rich rewards for making money, but being only lightly penalized for losses, Mr. Rajan argued. That encouraged financial firms to invest in complex products with potentially big payoffs, which could on occasion fail spectacularly.

He pointed to "credit-default swaps," which act as insurance against bond defaults. He said insurers and others were generating big returns selling these swaps with the appearance of taking on little risk, even though the pain could be immense if defaults actually occurred.

Mr. Rajan also argued that because banks were holding a portion of the credit securities they created on their books, if those securities ran into trouble, the banking system itself would be at risk. Banks would lose confidence in one another, he said: "The interbank market could freeze up, and one could well have a full-blown financial crisis."

Two years later, that's essentially what happened.

Cubit
01-04-2009, 01:29 PM
Yeah, I'd say that guy pretty much had it figured out.

wildpokerman
01-04-2009, 01:34 PM
I read The Black Swan by Nicholas Taleb last summer, his hedge fund was up 65 percent in 08.

He had the whole scenario pegged pretty good too.

Oh well as long as we live in a market based system where the people who made the right calls are rewarded while those who called it wrong are bankrupted and ruined things can't get too broken.

Oh Snap....

JeffL
01-04-2009, 02:42 PM
NPR piece last month, I believe it was All Things Considered but don't know as I just flipped to it in the middle. They were discussing how in the hell could it be that the biggest crisis our nation has faced in decades has come upon us, and there are no in depth congressional hearings and no one in congress is calling for them.

And one of the people on the show who was obviously a Washington insider said this was "a great example of bipartisanship," as "key players on both side of the aisle know that such hearings would expose rampant and disgraceful and perhaps even criminal neglect and intentional looking the other way for party leaders for both parties, as well as, at best, pure incompetence by those in both parties who were in oversight positions and had complete access to the information that could have helped avoid this crash."

Lorini
01-05-2009, 11:00 AM
I think the government is waiting for 2 things--Obama to take office, and for the crisis to ease. Neither of these things have happened yet, so there are not likely to be investigations for at least a few months. Senators love nothing more than to pull corporate big wigs into Congress and try to intimidate them so I'm sure it will happen eventually.

Robert Sharp
01-05-2009, 11:43 AM
Good point, Lorini. As long as the economy is still down, such hearings would only make things worse. They need to present a united governmental front right now, just for practical reasons. It's the same mentality as the bailouts themselves. Does justice demand that people pay and not be rewarded? Yes. But the cost for that justice is just too high right now. Justice delayed may be justice undone, but in this case, we have little choice. It must be delayed.

shift6
01-05-2009, 06:20 PM
With economics and finance, there is always someone saying something on some side of some issue. When a particular event or chain of events happens, it's generally pretty easy to find someone who said that it would. It turns out there were actually a number of people calling this as it was. Most of them probably lay low so that the other 99 times out of 100 that they were wrong don't get dredged up.

Jason McCullough
01-05-2009, 06:23 PM
It's one thing to predict something going wrong, another to predict exactly how it'll go wrong.

InfiniteJest
01-05-2009, 06:42 PM
It's one thing to predict something going wrong, another to predict exactly how it'll go wrong.

And harder still to predict when.

shift6
01-05-2009, 06:46 PM
My sarcastic reply is: Yes, you're right! This guy is a friggin' genius and no one, but no one, else saw it coming this way.

My real reply is: watch CNBC more often than once a week and you'll see dozens of people who "predicted" this. I believe Nassim Taleb would call this a textbook example of the Narrative fallacy: that as humans we always look back and, in hindsight, construct a story about how whatever just happened should have been so obvious because all the signs were there!

Mordrak
01-05-2009, 06:52 PM
My real reply is: watch CNBC more often than once a week and you'll see dozens of people who "predicted" this. I believe Nassim Taleb would call this a textbook example of the Narrative fallacy: that as humans we always look back and, in hindsight, construct a story about how whatever just happened should have been so obvious because all the signs were there!

You mean dozens of people who predicted this now? Heh.

Jason McCullough
01-05-2009, 07:20 PM
Um, who were the people on CNBC predicting that CDSes were going to blow up and take down the financial system?

Anaxagoras
01-05-2009, 07:32 PM
Um, who were the people on CNBC predicting that CDSes were going to blow up and take down the financial system?

Please don't interrupt his Narrative. Its fallacy is highly amusing.

Tim James
01-05-2009, 07:46 PM
I'm no expert, but I worry that people may be missing some fundamental issues in the hyperfocus on credit default swaps and interbank lending processes, as if we can just regulate those and never have another problem again. I just looked back at some old William Bernstein articles and particularly noticed his comment about how the massive amounts of capital and easy access to it in the modern world are making people do riskier things to recapture the high returns they've enjoyed through the course of history. I'm not sure if that guy touched on this or not.

AndrewM
01-05-2009, 09:45 PM
I'm no expert, but I worry that people may be missing some fundamental issues in the hyperfocus on credit default swaps and interbank lending processes, as if we can just regulate those and never have another problem again.

Next you are going to tell me that our extreme focus on airplane hijackings won't prevent all terrorism.