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RepoMan
12-07-2008, 07:15 AM
...and it's not just humans, either. No shit. (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/its-official-men-really-are-the-weaker-sex-1055688.html)

Quoting just about the whole article because it's frankly incredible:


The male gender is in danger, with incalculable consequences for both humans and wildlife, startling scientific research from around the world reveals.


The research – to be detailed tomorrow in the most comprehensive report yet published – shows that a host of common chemicals is feminising males of every class of vertebrate animals, from fish to mammals, including people....

It also follows hard on the heels of new American research which shows that baby boys born to women exposed to widespread chemicals in pregnancy are born with smaller penises and feminised genitals....

Wildlife and people have been exposed to more than 100,000 new chemicals in recent years, and the European Commission has admitted that 99 per cent of them are not adequately regulated. There is not even proper safety information on 85 per cent of them.

Many have been identified as "endocrine disrupters" – or gender-benders – because they interfere with hormones. These include phthalates, used in food wrapping, cosmetics and baby powders among other applications; flame retardants in furniture and electrical goods; PCBs, a now banned group of substances still widespread in food and the environment; and many pesticides.

The report – published by the charity CHEMTrust and drawing on more than 250 scientific studies from around the world – concentrates mainly on wildlife, identifying effects in species ranging from the polar bears of the Arctic to the eland of the South African plains, and from whales in the depths of the oceans to high-flying falcons and eagles.

It concludes: "Males of species from each of the main classes of vertebrate animals (including bony fish, amphibians, reptiles, birds and mammals) have been affected by chemicals in the environment.
"Feminisation of the males of numerous vertebrate species is now a widespread occurrence. All vertebrates have similar sex hormone receptors, which have been conserved in evolution. Therefore, observations in one species may serve to highlight pollution issues of concern for other vertebrates, including humans."

Fish, it says, are particularly affected by pollutants as they are immersed in them when they swim in contaminated water, taking them in not just in their food but through their gills and skin. They were among the first to show widespread gender-bending effects.

Half the male fish in British lowland rivers have been found to be developing eggs in their testes; in some stretches all male roaches have been found to be changing sex in this way. Female hormones – largely from the contraceptive pills which pass unaltered through sewage treatment – are partly responsible, while more than three-quarters of sewage works have been found also to be discharging demasculinising man-made chemicals. Feminising effects have now been discovered in a host of freshwater fish species as far away as Japan and Benin, in Africa, and in sea fish in the North Sea, the Mediterranean, Osaka Bay in Japan and Puget Sound on the US west coast.

Research at the University of Florida earlier this year found that 40 per cent of the male cane toads – a species so indestructible that it has become a plague in Australia – had become hermaphrodites in a heavily farmed part of the state, with another 20 per cent undergoing lesser feminisation. A similar link between farming and sex changes in northern leopard frogs has been revealed by Canadian research, adding to suspicions that pesticides may be to blame.

Male alligators exposed to pesticides in Florida have suffered from lower testosterone and higher oestrogen levels, abnormal testes, smaller penises and reproductive failures. Male snapping turtles have been found with female characteristics in the same state and around the Great Lakes, where wildlife has been found to be contaminated with more than 400 different chemicals. Male herring gulls and peregrine falcons have produced the female protein used to make egg yolks, while bald eagles have had difficulty reproducing in areas highly contaminated with chemicals.

Scientists at Cardiff University have found that the brains of male starlings who ate worms contaminated by female hormones at a sewage works in south-west England were subtly changed so that they sang at greater length and with increased virtuosity.

Even more ominously for humanity, mammals have also been found to be widely affected.

Two-thirds of male Sitka black-tailed deer in Alaska have been found to have undescended testes and deformed antler growth, and roughly the same proportion of white-tailed deer in Montana were discovered to have genital abnormalities.

In South Africa, eland have been revealed to have damaged testicles while being contaminated by high levels of gender-bender chemicals, and striped mice from one polluted nature reserved were discovered to be producing no sperm at all.

At the other end of the world, hermaphrodite polar bears – with penises and vaginas – have been discovered and gender-benders have been found to reduce sperm counts and penis lengths in those that remained male. Many of the small, endangered populations of Florida panthers have been found to have abnormal sperm....

Indeed, new research at the University of Rochester in New York state shows that boys born to mothers with raised levels of phthalates were more likely to have smaller penises and undescended testicles. They also had a shorter distance between their anus and genitalia, a classic sign of feminisation. And a study at Rotterdam's Erasmus University showed that boys whose mothers had been exposed to PCBs grew up wanting to play with dolls and tea sets rather than with traditionally male toys.

Communities heavily polluted with gender-benders in Canada, Russia and Italy have given birth to twice as many girls than boys, which may offer a clue to the reason for a mysterious shift in sex ratios worldwide. Normally 106 boys are born for every 100 girls, but the ratio is slipping. It is calculated that 250,000 babies who would have been boys have been born as girls instead in the US and Japan alone.

And sperm counts are dropping precipitously. Studies in more than 20 countries have shown that they have dropped from 150 million per millilitre of sperm fluid to 60 million over 50 years. (Hamsters produce nearly three times as much, at 160 million.) Professor Nil Basu of Michigan University says that this adds up to "pretty compelling evidence for effects in humans".

But Britain has long sought to water down EU attempts to control gender-bender chemicals and has been leading opposition to a new regulation that would ban pesticides shown to have endocrine-disrupting effects. Almost all the other European countries back it, but ministers – backed by their counterparts from Ireland and Romania – are intent on continuing their resistance at a crucial meeting on Wednesday. They say the regulation would cause a collapse of agriculture in the UK, but environmentalists retort that this is nonsense because the regulation has get-out clauses that could be used by British farmers.

Jesus Christ. I just hope this can lead to a successful rollback of these chemicals a la the response to CFCs degrading the ozone layer. Perhaps for once the preponderance of males in government, combined with the cross-your-legs-and-squeeze reflex whenever balls are threatened, will result in some actual action on this.

Otherwise... well, shit, ain't gonna BE no more BALLS up on this here motherfucking PLANET!!!!!

Malcolm Tucker
12-07-2008, 07:48 AM
I'm glad I got to be among the last of the normal-sized-penis generation.

Maybe we can call it the large-penis generation in ten years!

Robert Sharp
12-07-2008, 07:50 AM
I'm a victim of shrinkage!!!!

Morkilus
12-07-2008, 08:24 AM
Weird that they don't mention BPA, the cross-linker in carbonate bottles and canned food that has been banned infood containers in Japan and Europe, but not the United States. It works by fooling the body into thinking that it's estrogen, and works at extremely low levels in the body.

Bill Dungsroman
12-07-2008, 08:45 AM
RepoMan isn't flipping out unduly in this instance. These findings are real, repeatable, widespread, and the best part is, many of the studies were deliberately done on newborns (using their cord blood, which is presumed to be the "cleanest" blood in any human) in non-industrial areas. I have seen the findings of several of the US studies, they are borderline horrifying. It's a large part of why the "Green" initiative is taking off like it is. Companies want to be on the front side of things when this research becomes more publicly known.

Kirian
12-07-2008, 08:54 AM
RepoMan isn't flipping out unduly in this instance. These findings are real, repeatable, widespread, and the best part is, many of the studies were deliberately done on newborns (using their cord blood, which is presumed to be the "cleanest" blood in any human) in non-industrial areas. I have seen the findings of several of the US studies, they are borderline horrifying. It's a large part of why the "Green" initiative is taking off like it is. Companies want to be on the front side of things when this research becomes more publicly known.
I remember, five or six years ago now, biology teachers telling me that male fertility levels were dropping at an alarming rate due to chemicals in water and food.

It is really rather worrying.

MatthewF
12-07-2008, 09:35 AM
Daaaamn. Good to be born when I was, I guess.

Robert Sharp
12-07-2008, 10:04 AM
On the bright side, doesn't that mean that when we are in our 50s and 60s, 20 yo women will be seeking our larger members?

GyRo567
12-07-2008, 10:42 AM
I thought the bright side was natural overpopulation control?

RepoMan
12-07-2008, 10:55 AM
RepoMan isn't flipping out unduly in this instance.
Holy shit, now I'm really worried. I never thought to hear Bill say that.

So what can be done? Which public policy organizations are in the forefront on this? Who should I give lots of money to? Who's fighting for rollbacks of these genderbending motherfucking Communistic flouridating chemicals from hell? (Yes, this veers into P&R territory; a splinter thread is aborning.)

We need natural overpopulation control of people only, GyRo, not of every species with males on the planet.

Orinoco
12-07-2008, 02:32 PM
On the bright side, doesn't that mean that when we are in our 50s and 60s, 20 yo women will be seeking our larger members?

Time to buy shares in both Penis enlarging companies AND Viagra

Acid
12-07-2008, 03:22 PM
On the bright side, doesn't that mean that when we are in our 50s and 60s, 20 yo women will be seeking our larger members?
Larger? Wait, uh, oh. Oh! Wait! Yeah! Larger!

Yeah, me too.

Heh heh heh.

[insert manly quip here]

Jon Rowe
12-07-2008, 03:25 PM
We actually talked a lot about this in my undergrad studies. We talked about how amphibians are particularly affected by this because of their permeable skin that soaks in water.

RSofaer
12-07-2008, 04:51 PM
We actually talked a lot about this in my undergrad studies. We talked about how amphibians are particularly affected by this because of their permeable skin that soaks in water.

Yeah, I remember learning that they are the canary in the mine for environmental pollutants. There are a few other factors that contribute, along with permeable skin, but I can't remember them now. It might be that they pick up pollutants during every phase of their life from different places, so that they are natural aggregators of our fuckups.

wildpokerman
12-07-2008, 06:38 PM
I plan to be Sam Hell:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell_Comes_to_Frogtown

Sol Invictus
12-07-2008, 06:40 PM
I got to thinking: is this such a bad thing?

If women can still have babies, artificially or otherwise (with hermaphrodites, perhaps?), I guess we'll just have to cope.

I can be like Y, the Last Man.

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Please note that I'm being completely facetious. Of course it's a bad thing. Humans will be able to persevere but it's gonna be an ecological problem on a massive, massive scale. A lot of key species may die out because of this, and that certainly won't bode well for the ecosystem.

Scrax
12-07-2008, 07:17 PM
So this is what brought about the metrosexual revolution.

GatInDaHat
12-07-2008, 07:38 PM
I want to be a lady!

ElGuapo
12-07-2008, 07:51 PM
Penis size shrinking? Quick, pour 10 trillion dollars into this motherfucker! This will not stand! Put our top men on this shit!

Everyone pull out your phallus symbols!

http://pro.corbis.com/images/42-17283124.jpg?size=572&uid=%7B4196B055-15E1-4CC5-A2D1-4CAA572CC10B%7D

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/64/Test-tubes.jpg

http://images.inmagine.com/img/daj/daj378/daj378015.jpg

http://pro.corbis.com/images/42-16418643.jpg?size=572&uid={EF6A751D-8CF7-46C5-BF1C-014EE11EF5EA}

z22
12-07-2008, 08:32 PM
Mr brainbuster says "No".

http://rightvoices.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/tinfoil-hat.jpg

Aeon221
12-07-2008, 10:14 PM
http://drmcninja.com/issue13/13p43.png

Rasputin
12-08-2008, 02:36 PM
Is it a coincidence that in ElG's pics, the asian guy is holding the tiny ones?

Scrax
12-08-2008, 02:46 PM
Mmm I would be kind of worried how the first guy plans on testing your sample as well.

Skipper
12-08-2008, 02:48 PM
I, for one, welcome our new pengina overlords.

slikster
12-08-2008, 07:53 PM
I'll tell you who MAKES much of the pesticides and chemicals and push them on farmers. They are where the heat should be directed. Monsanto, Dow, Bayer, probably other multinationals too. Some do the GMO thing too.

Sure, we may get more/nicer looking food, but at what cost? There is an over supply of food as it is. The expense you pay in the suppermarket is no where near the price paid at the source. Middle-men gouge most of it.

ElGuapo
12-08-2008, 08:10 PM
Is it a coincidence that in ElG's pics, the asian guy is holding the tiny ones?

No! Notice also the black guys is holding the one that looks big (forced perspective).

That was the joke, see.

Calistas
12-08-2008, 09:55 PM
So how can we tell if plastic has BPA in it? Saw something extensive on BPA in New Scientist recently also.

krayzkrok
12-09-2008, 01:52 AM
Great, this issue has now started to make it into the "weird and quirky stories" department in the newspapers. That's at least an improvement over the "domain of geeky scientific journals of interest to nobody else" department. Maybe in a few more decades it'll become front-page news, but by that time it'll be too late to do much about it.

Sol Invictus
12-09-2008, 10:01 AM
People seem to care more about Lindsay Lohan's sex life than they do about the fate of the entire planet going to hell in a handbasket (unless we prevent it).

Maybe it's not such a bad thing.

Tankero
12-09-2008, 10:39 AM
I think we're now on a trajectory where these issues will meet.

Charles
12-09-2008, 10:45 AM
So really what we're saying here is that Children of Men should be moved out of the Sci-Fi section.

Tankero
12-09-2008, 10:46 AM
In the year 2050, it'll probably be used as stock footage on the Herstory channel.

Podunk
12-09-2008, 11:01 AM
Does this thread remind anyone else of Old Gregg? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUSvXzYnQZM)

wisefool
12-15-2008, 11:09 AM
Related issue linked at BBC. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7776210.stm) This is a more detailed writeup.

Manly men have more male children. (http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/comment/reply/17986)