View Full Version : More on recalling Gray
07-23-2003, 04:33 PM
Looks like it's actually going to happen, so what do people think of the candidates? Gray's made a pretty compelling case that Issa is going to cost the state millions to hold the recall election now, rather than rolling it into the March 2 state primary, allegedly so that Issa won't have to give up his state seat to run for governor. So he seems lame. I like Schwartzenegger for his robotic implacability and invulnerability to small arms fire. Plus it'd be a great way to show up Minnesota.
07-23-2003, 05:01 PM
Yes, and his political opinions are.....does anyone actually know?
Panetta (who Kaus has been shilling for) would be the greatest thing ever.
07-23-2003, 11:39 PM
Arnold has to win, he just has to. Can you imagine writing to Arnold and asking him for something that you would ask any politician about?
07-23-2003, 11:48 PM
Arnold has his advantages. He can't be bargained with. He can't be reasoned with. He doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And he absolutely will not stop--ever--until you are dead!
Put that on a campaign button, and I'd vote for him.
07-24-2003, 12:12 AM
Schwarzenegger To U.S. Troops: 'You Guys Are The Real Genocidal Killer Robots From The Future'
07-24-2003, 08:13 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Troy S Goodfellow
07-24-2003, 12:52 PM
I'm not sure what to make of the Democrat decision not to run anybody in the recall phase. I can appreciate the importance of backing Davis and the utility in casting the entire process as illegitimate this early in a term.
But does it make any sense to say "If you don't want Davis, you have to choose a Republican or a flake, whether you want them or not."? If you believe that Republicans will only do the economy more damage or will cut services even more deeply instead of raising taxes (can you raise taxes in California?) isn't it ethical and advisable to give Democratic voters who distrust Davis an option? Maybe one of you Californians can fill me in on some of the logic here.
If this works, and Riordan or Issa or Arnold becomes governor, you can be sure that this will just be the first in a long line of duelling recall initiatives. Who needs elections, anyway?
07-24-2003, 02:29 PM
Dueling objectives; if they run another Democrat, and Davis & his replacement end up being on one ballot, then that encourages people to vote to recall David & vote for the Democrat. That's dangerous if you're just trying to keep the seat in Democratic hands.
The Davis line so far is "a crackpot group of wingers is trying to endrun the election process", which sounds about right to me. Not that I like Davis, but it's a bad precedent to set.
07-24-2003, 02:39 PM
I know that there are some conservatives who don't like this at all, because they know that if this does succeed, all that will happen is that they have opened the Pandora's Box of recall elections from hell. Don't you think that Streisand and some other filthy rich California liberals aren't going to unload their warchests for a recall of a potential Republican governor? It's a virtual coup d'taut, and it sits uneasy with them because turnabout is fair game.
07-24-2003, 02:55 PM
I'm walking a linguistic tight-rope trying to figure this one out... oh come on, cut me some slack!
07-24-2003, 03:41 PM
/em slices through tightrope. Watches in glee as Miramon plummets to his doom.
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