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So tonight's questions are supposedly coming from "undecided" voters. How the f$#% can you be undecided at this point? It's been TWO YEARS of campaigning. What issue do you need to find out about? Are these the people that also can't make up their minds at the ice cream counter. Seriously, WTF?
I can see maybe having changed your vote at some point but how can you not know who you are voting for one month out?
Drastic
10-07-2008, 01:45 PM
Candidates Compete for Vital Idgit Vote (http://www.theonion.com/content/video/in_the_know_candidates_compete).
malphigian
10-07-2008, 01:46 PM
Seriously.
I think there a small fraction of people who might be "undecided" because they have personal policy beliefs who don't match up very well with either candidate. The rest though? Morons who blow with the wind ("ohh, he said something mean" "I dont know if I trust him", "she was so folksy!") or people faking it to get news attention.
Bob Cherub
10-07-2008, 01:50 PM
I imagine they will be "undecided" like in that CNN/Youtube debate.
Yeah, you remember:
"Concerned" young undecided person "Journey" who on her blog admits to being a John Edwards supporter.
or
"Concerned" undecided Log Cabin Republican David Cercone, who says in his profile that he supports Barack Obama.
or
"Concerned" undecided mom of two LeeAnn Anderson, an activist for John Edwards.
or
"Concerned" gay military retiree Brig. Gen. Keith H Kerr, Hillary supporter.
I'm sure those you see tonight will be TRUE undecided voters.
NoWayJose
10-07-2008, 01:52 PM
I can think of plenty of reasons someone might respond "undecided" when forced to choose between three possible choices.
A lot of people don't align so much with policy as with perception of the candidate's qualifications, and I'd guess some generally agree with Obama's stances but feel that he's inexperienced and maybe a little unqualified for the job. Others probably support McCain's proposals on national security but are unnerved by the Palin choice. It usually has less to do with deciding which of the candidates you're going to vote for and more to do with being made more comfortable voting for the one you generally support.
Funkula
10-07-2008, 02:11 PM
If you keep going at that rate, Bob, there won't be any quotation marks left for other people to use. Show a little consideration, would ya?
Hanacker
10-07-2008, 02:27 PM
Under McCain there would be more than enough quotation marks for everyone. Obama says he will increase the quotation mark supply, but I guarantee he's just going to tie them up in some new far-left policy documents.
Funkula
10-07-2008, 03:07 PM
Obama's plan is only beneficial to those who use less than 250,000 quotation marks per post, which is why Bob is voting for McCain.
Under a Democratic administration, everyone will be given credit for punctuation. McCain's reliance on the free grammar market is why our language is in such a sorry state.
Also, I'm of the opinion anyone who's still undecided at this point simply shouldn't be allowed to vote. I mean, come on. You're not even TRYING.
Tom Ohle
10-07-2008, 03:24 PM
Bob said it first: All undecided voters are going to vote for Obama anyway, because they don't want more of the same.
Andrew Mayer
10-07-2008, 03:25 PM
Balance uber alles!
SmokeyNecrosis
10-07-2008, 09:31 PM
I dont know anyone who sees the side by side comparision of the fey/plain/coruic and can still be undecided. That was on the day of the vote of the bail out and she clearly did not know what it was about...health care wasnt close.
Granted, she is not running for president, but....when I am better well read...holy smokes
Aeon221
10-07-2008, 10:47 PM
I dont know anyone who sees the side by side comparision of the fey/plain/coruic and can still be undecided. That was on the day of the vote of the bail out and she clearly did not know what it was about...health care wasnt close.
Granted, she is not running for president, but....when I am better well read...holy smokes
Holy smokes indeed, my friend. Holy smokes indeed.
Rimbo
10-07-2008, 11:15 PM
So tonight's questions are supposedly coming from "undecided" voters. How the f$#% can you be undecided at this point? It's been TWO YEARS of campaigning. What issue do you need to find out about? Are these the people that also can't make up their minds at the ice cream counter. Seriously, WTF?
I can see maybe having changed your vote at some point but how can you not know who you are voting for one month out?
Put bluntly, the candidates are more similar than they are different. And to a guy like me*, I agree with one of them on some issues and the other on others. Also, there are valid reasons to vote for a President other than issues, such as managerial capability, ability to lead, etc.
I could quite easily accuse those who made up their mind earlier than this of being brainless sheep, followers of whatever preprogrammed ideology their team produces, even if that ideology inverts itself as necessary to oppose the other team's candidate. Some of you who are reading this now are exactly like this, and you know who you are.
*Not undecided, but definitely ambivalent
Funkula
10-08-2008, 12:06 AM
I could quite easily accuse those who made up their mind earlier than this of being brainless sheep, followers of whatever preprogrammed ideology their team produces, even if that ideology inverts itself as necessary to oppose the other team's candidate.
Haha, what? Someone who takes less than twenty-two months to decide is jumping the gun?
Some of you who are reading this now are exactly like this, and you know who you are.
Ah, OK, "some." I guess I can just assume that you're referring to those dastardly Other Guys then!
Rimbo
10-08-2008, 12:15 AM
Haha, what? Someone who takes less than twenty-two months to decide is jumping the gun?
No, I'm referring to people who already knew which party they were going to vote for before they even knew who the candidates were... the other extreme of the "undecided 3 weeks before the election" bit. And of course, there's everyone in-between.
Funkula
10-08-2008, 12:28 AM
What about people (like me) who could give an estimate before this started, based on the current composition and ideology of the parties, that it was about a 30-to-1 shot that the opposition would nominate someone I could stomach?
What about people in 2004 (again, like me) who knew that barring a functional impossibility like, say, Al Sharpton getting the nomination, they would vote for whoever the Democrats managed to shove out there, in the knowledge that no one less ridiculous than Rev. Al could fuck the country as badly as Bush had?
As long as you think your opinions through and continue to re-check them, I don't think they're invalid, no matter how strongly you believe them.
Talisker
10-08-2008, 12:39 AM
According to John Oliver, the undecideds are split between attention seekers, racist Democrats, the chronically insecure, and the stupid (http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=187570&title=the).
Kyle Wilson
10-08-2008, 07:59 AM
Or maybe they're just people who look at both candidates' supporters and think, "I don't want to be one of those people."
Talisker
10-08-2008, 08:06 AM
Or maybe they're just people who look at both candidates' supporters and think, "I don't want to be one of those people."
IE, the chronically insecure.
BennyProfane
10-08-2008, 08:29 AM
According to John Oliver, the undecideds are split between attention seekers, racist Democrats, the chronically insecure, and the stupid (http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=187570&title=the).
Oh my, I almost threw up from laughing so hard when he got to "Cubs fans".
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