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RepoMan
09-24-2008, 11:16 AM
Latest WaPo poll (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/23/AR2008092303667_pf.html) puts him nine points ahead, which is outside statistical margin of error.

More voters trust Obama to deal with the economy, and he currently has a big edge as the candidate who is more in tune with the economic problems Americans now face. He also has a double-digit advantage on handling the current problems on Wall Street (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Wall+Street?tid=informline), and as a result, there has been a rise in his overall support. The poll found that, among likely voters, Obama now leads McCain by 52 percent to 43 percent. Two weeks ago, in the days immediately following the Republican National Convention (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Republican+National+Convention?tid=informline), the race was essentially even, with McCain at 49 percent and Obama at 47 percent.

As a point of comparison, neither of the last two Democratic nominees -- John F. Kerry (http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/k000148/) in 2004 or Al Gore (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Al+Gore?tid=informline) in 2000 -- recorded support above 50 percent in a pre-election poll by the Post and ABC News.

Last week's near-meltdown in the financial markets and the subsequent debate in Washington over a proposed government bailout of troubled financial institutions have made the economy even more important in the minds of voters. Fully 50 percent called the economy and jobs the single most important issue that will determine their vote, up from 37 percent two weeks ago. In contrast, just 9 percent cited the Iraq war as their most important issue, its lowest of the campaign.
What, people don't think Palin knows what to do on the economy?????

Finally we've got some focus on the issues, and McCain is getting deservedly tarred with the brush of the administration he supported for so long. (And yes, the Republicans deservedly get significant blame for having not done ANYTHING in the last eight years -- for most of which they had clear control of both the executive and the legislature -- to head off the American mortgage circus that's collapsing so disastrously now.)

JOY!!!!!!!!

Mark Asher
09-24-2008, 11:19 AM
You know, the Republican who sort of scared me was Romney, because I knew he'd run strong on economy issues and I figured that would be the big issue of this election rather than the war in Iraq.

jeffd
09-24-2008, 11:19 AM
Let's not jerk each other off just yet. This poll is very much an outlier at the moment.

LesJarvis
09-24-2008, 11:25 AM
Let's not jerk each other off just yet. This poll is very much an outlier at the moment.

I'm all about not counting chickens, but while this poll is an outlier, it's still consistent with pretty much all recent polling, in that it indicates that the economy is the most important campaign issue at the moment, and that Obama (and Democrats in general) have a pretty significant edge in that arena. That doesn't mean Obama is destined to win, but it helps his odds a lot.

RepoMan
09-24-2008, 11:37 AM
Let's not jerk each other off just yet. This poll is very much an outlier at the moment.
True; fivethirtyeight.com still has them tied in the popular vote (though Obama leads in the electoral vote). Still, being a good liberal, I'm happy to jerk off at any time.

Rasputin
09-24-2008, 11:42 AM
I think what jeffd is saying is that he's not going to reciprocate your jerking of him.

Bad form, sir, bad form.

Skipper
09-24-2008, 11:44 AM
Let's not jerk each other off just yet. This poll is very much an outlier at the moment.

Plus there are no tornadoes right now. So no jerking off yet.






Sorry Jeff, you post reminded me of that old thread though.

LesJarvis
09-24-2008, 11:44 AM
True; fivethirtyeight.com still has them tied in the popular vote (though Obama leads in the electoral vote). Still, being a good liberal, I'm happy to jerk off at any time.

FiveThirtyEight has Obama up 2.2 points (a pretty significant number for them) and with over 50% for the popular vote right now. Because of the way his model works it took a while for McCain's Palin/convention bounce to subside, but at this point it's pretty clearly gone. If you buy into his methodology then Obama is in great shape.

ydejin
09-24-2008, 11:48 AM
Let's not jerk each other off just yet. This poll is very much an outlier at the moment.

Fox News (http://www.pollster.com/blogs/us_obama_45_mccain_39_fox92223.php) has him up by 6. Obama 45, McCain 39. Not quite as good, but still pretty solid. Diego/Hotline (http://www.diageohotlinepoll.com/) also has him up by 6 (Obama 48, McCain 42). Let's see where things stand after the debate on Friday though. McCain may get a bounce.

Dirt
09-24-2008, 11:51 AM
McCain is probably sorry he didn't take Romney now.

ydejin
09-24-2008, 12:02 PM
McCain is probably sorry he didn't take Romney now.

I dunno, I think he might be doing worse with Romney. At least Palin fired up his base which should help with the ground game/turn-out-the-vote on election day. Romney really comes across as a tool (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDwwAaVmnf4). I just don't see Romney as getting him many votes. Plus strengthening McCain in Nevada / Utah area while weakening him in North Carolina and maybe Indiana (to pick a battleground states with a large Mormon population and two with large contingents of Evangelical voters) probably isn't a good trade-off.

Skipper
09-24-2008, 12:12 PM
WTF .... front page CNN has McCain now saying he want's to postphone the debate on Friday so he can work on the economy. He recommends Obama do the same.

Cheesy.

extarbags
09-24-2008, 12:25 PM
Plus there are no tornadoes right now. So no jerking off yet.






Sorry Jeff, you post reminded me of that old thread though.

no gay stuff

Aeon221
09-24-2008, 12:28 PM
DEAR EVERYONE NATIONAL POLLS DON'T MATTER (UNLESS THEY FAVOR US)!!!

I can just see McCain going down to the Fed with his tool box, wrench at the ready, for some serious fixin'. I bet he just can't wait to twist some nuts and pound some nails.

Damien Neil
09-24-2008, 01:34 PM
I here there's a lot of bush that needs clearin' out down there at the Fed.