So,where the hell is Alan Awake :(

[Problematique]

It's been so long, a lot of games that I thought would released after Alan Awake, are now showing their presence. Heavy Rain for instance, looks righteous. Shouldn't we have seen more by now ? :( Anybody got anything on how developement is going?

* insert Alan Awake joke, about him being asleep now*

[jeansberg]

It's actually Alan Wake.

[nordhus]

Only news I've seen is a recent forum (http://www.alanwake.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1706) post:

Seriously, yes, we're still here and working hard on getting Alan Wake for you to enjoy. Sure, we've been in development for a long time and if everything had gone perfectly smoothly there probably would be a game out for you guys to play already. But designing a completely new game can be hard, and sometimes you need to take a detour to find the best route forward.

[tromik]

The Giant Bomb guys talked about it on a recent podcast, IIRC.

[Pogo]

There are some games that just need to be made properly by a bunch of very talented and ambitious developers, and those titles are developed for "however long it takes," especially if they are willing to scrap some of their original ideas because they did not work as well as they thought.

Alan Wake is one of those games.

[Problematique]

It's actually Alan Wake.


Yeah, :P It's been so long, I forgot the name lol.

Anyway, good to see they're still working on it, can't wait to see how the finished product looks.

[jeansberg]

Yep. I'm excited too, ever since I saw that demo video with the tornado, like two years ago.

[Scott Kevill]

It's been so long, a lot of games that I thought would released after Alan Awake, are now showing their presence. Heavy Rain for instance, looks righteous. Shouldn't we have seen more by now ? :( Anybody got anything on how developement is going?

* insert Alan Awake joke, about him being asleep now*

That would work so much better if the game were named Eliza Wake.

[dashingly]

That would work so much better if the game were named Eliza Wake.Well, isn't it supposed to be a trilogy? With some gimmick like each part being from a different perspective?

[Kareem]

Yep. I'm excited too, ever since I saw that demo video with the tornado, like two years ago.

The game was actually revealed back in 2004, so that would be 4 years, and it's been pretty much a no-show since then. There literally has been no information about it since the unveiling.

I don't know, I have confidence in the Remedy guys - I loved Max Payne. But the quote indicates hitches in development. Hopefully it'll suddenly, magically turn up the way Prey eventually did and impress some of us.

[Bahimiron]

There literally has been no information about it since the unveiling.

So the November 2006 cover story on Alan Wake was nothing but a rehash on two year old information? An entire cover story dedicated to offering literally no information that wasn't known since the unveiling two years before? Yowza. No wonder GFW went down the drain if they're doing cover stories that offer no new information about games that haven't been seen for two years.

[Kareem]

Sorry, I wasn't aware of that one!

[fancimus]

Isn't it finally supposed to be shown at TGS?

[Bahimiron]

Sorry, I wasn't aware of that one!

Enh. It's forgivable. I mean, even that story was two years ago.

Remedy is definitely setting the bar for keeping mum on a game.

Here's hoping it's as worth it as Max Payne was.

(Said unironically, as I loved Max Payne. So much.)

[Kunikos]

Well, get ready for Marky Mark to ruin your memories of Max Payne real soon now.

[BacteriaEP]

Well, get ready for Marky Mark to ruin your memories of Max Payne real soon now.

Not only ruin them... but rape them and leave em for dead on the side of a street too.

There will be no coming back for Max Payne after October 17th.

[greg wak]

Maybe not. They are using a real director at least. But if I had to bet, I would say ruined it is.

[Bahimiron]

I think Marky Mark is just a shitheel of a person, but the trailer we've seen so far doesn't look too bad.

Anyway, Mark Wahlberg ruining Max Payne isn't apt to affect Alan Wake one way or another.*

*Surprise. Matthew Lillard has a cameo as Alan Wake in the movie!

[FoRmaT]

I'm uncapable of seeing Matthew Lillard and not remembering his gay character in Hackers. In my mind he'll forever be that guy :(

[Jakub]

What is Alan Wake?

[Kunikos]

I'm uncapable of seeing Matthew Lillard and not remembering his gay character in Hackers. In my mind he'll forever be that guy :(

He was gay?

[Wobbo]

So the November 2006 cover story on Alan Wake was nothing but a rehash on two year old information? An entire cover story dedicated to offering literally no information that wasn't known since the unveiling two years before?

That's almost exactly what the BioShock Cover story in PC Gamer was, actually.

[FoRmaT]

He was gay?

Definitely effeminate.

[Kunikos]

Definitely effeminate.

Yeah, that's not the same thing, OK?

[JMR]

Who needs Alan Wake when there's Alan Thicke?

http://i2.iofferphoto.com/img/item/327/285/81/o_3263.jpg

[tiohn]

Yeah, :P It's been so long, I forgot the name lol.


Cannot parse.

[Talisker]

Who needs Alan Thicke when there's Alan Alda?

http://i1.iofferphoto.com/img/item/233/117/62/o_AlanAlda_1.JPG

[FoRmaT]

Yeah, that's not the same thing, OK?

Hey hey, I didn't say I have anything against gays, I just described how I saw that character. Sorry I hurt your feelings :*

[John Sansker]

I read in either games™ or Edge magazine in either July or August issue that Alan Wake was "looking for a developer to finish it up and or a publisher once finished" .
So, in theory Alan Wake is abandonware?

Not surprising since it was slated to be "Vista only", and the last 2 Vista only titles tanked badly.

[Problematique]

I read in either games™ or Edge magazine in either July or August issue that Alan Wake was "looking for a developer to finish it up and or a publisher once finished" .
So, in theory Alan Wake is abandonware?

Not surprising since it was slated to be "Vista only", and the last 2 Vista only titles tanked badly.


This makes be :| scared...

[FoRmaT]

Is Gears of War Vista only? I heard about people having problems in XP. Not that I could legally find out, as the game is banned in my country :(

P.S.: Libertad! Libertad! Libertad!

[SergioBAM]

I read in either games™ or Edge magazine in either July or August issue that Alan Wake was "looking for a developer to finish it up and or a publisher once finished" .
So, in theory Alan Wake is abandonware?

Not surprising since it was slated to be "Vista only", and the last 2 Vista only titles tanked badly.

No.

Like id, "It's done when it's done".

[FoRmaT]

But I hope it will be good, anyway.

[Bahimiron]

I'm pretty sure that Microsoft plans on publishing Alan Wake.

[noun]

What is Alan Wake?

Interestingly enough, even though it's been in development for 4+ years, no one really knows. I can only assume it's another third person shooter with freaky dream sequences. People are excited about a game they know absolutely nothing about.

[Rock8man]

Interestingly enough, even though it's been in development for 4+ years, no one really knows. I can only assume it's another third person shooter with freaky dream sequences. People are excited about a game they know absolutely nothing about.

Actually that preview in the November issue of GFW Magazine (which, for some reason, never made it to 1UP.com, as far as I can tell) had quite a lot of details about the game. But I can't find that issue anymore. I know they had maps of a big fictitious open-world area in upstate Washington in the preview. That's the area that you can explore in Alan Wake, but at the same time the game is mission-based, and basically a "psychological thriller" that pulls you along in its story. Alan Wake is a writer with insomnia, who is having a lot of nightmares, and there's lots of in-game sequences where you're not sure if something is real, or part of a dream. So the story is a big deal, but at the same time, it's a game with beautiful weather effects set in beautiful countryside.

[noun]

So Max Payne meets Silent Hill gameplay set in John Carpenter's In the Mouth of Madness. Got it.

[G-Man]

Sounds more like The Dark Half. Anyone else remember that adventure game?

[FoRmaT]

I remember I had the Spanish version. Man, was that a badly translated game! There were English words left everywhere in that one, even parts of the menu weren't trasnlated. I didn't play more than fifteen minutes of it. But I really really loved the book and movie it was based on (huge S.K. fan, I am).

[John Keefer]

http://www.crispygamer.com/news/index.php/2008-09-30/new-alan-wake-trailer-to-debut-in-finland/

[Qenan]

"Alan Awake" sounds like the alias of Too Much Coffee Man.

[Jarmo]

http://www.crispygamer.com/news/index.php/2008-09-30/new-alan-wake-trailer-to-debut-in-finland/

Cool. I'll try to catch the Max Payne movie in the opening weekend -- also to see the Alan Wake trailer.

[Jarmo]

I saw the new Alan Wake trailer a couple of hours ago. It was better than the movie Max Payne.

The trailer was pretty brief. It consisted of snippets which seemed to reiterate the basic premise of the game (which we already know). Some foreboding sound bites and very brief glimpses of action raised the excitement level a bit. It was difficult to tell anything of real consequence about the game based on the trailer. I'm waiting to hear about the actual game, now. So far, Remedy has made good games. I hope it stays that way.

Oh, and Max Payne (the movie)? Forget about it and just play the game. It's fun, unlike the movie.

[Scrax]

Wow, I've been excited about this game since before the 360 came out. It's taking its time to release, but I hope it's worth it.

[Staff Sergeant]

Holy shit I remember reading about this game like a million years ago in CGW.

[JD]

I remember when Remedy were on this Intel expo where they announced that the engine will support dual-core and quad-core CPUs. At that time everyone was like "Quad-Core? Who's going to have quad-core CPUs? Isn't that far off? Dual-core CPUs just arrived!"

-Julian

[John Sansker]

I saw the new Alan Wake trailer a couple of hours ago. It was better than the movie Max Payne.

The trailer was pretty brief. It consisted of snippets which seemed to reiterate the basic premise of the game (which we already know). Some foreboding sound bites and very brief glimpses of action raised the excitement level a bit. It was difficult to tell anything of real consequence about the game based on the trailer. I'm waiting to hear about the actual game, now. So far, Remedy has made good games. I hope it stays that way.

Oh, and Max Payne (the movie)? Forget about it and just play the game. It's fun, unlike the movie.


So, marky mark FTL huh?
What were the odds of that happening?

[nabeel]

Trailer! (http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/55459) According to my Finn friend the one shown before the movie was this same trailer, with a little bit of older footage padded in. Interestingly, it was much more jerky and less optimized for a trailer, with hitches and stutters. Apparently this is smoother.

[Tom Ohle]

Trailer looks great, and I can't wait to find out if this is actually a game!

[zengonzo]

I liked it.

I like the prospect of playing a game that actually has an alternative, bright environment to actually provide contrast against the gritty, dark environment.

[Wendelius]

Wow. Love the trailer. The game has been in development for so long that I keep being reminded that I like the sound of it and then forgetting all about it once again for a few months. It's fun to rediscover it once in a while. :)

Wendelius

[Pogue Mahone]

I remember I had the Spanish version. Man, was that a badly translated game! There were English words left everywhere in that one, even parts of the menu weren't trasnlated.

Hey, I think I might enjoy that game, it shares my approach to speaking Spanish. Usually I end up with something like 'Uh, hola. Donde esta mi ... ah, dammit ... mi, you know, spaceship?' Broken Spanish is the only Spanish I know!

[Bahimiron]

God, that looks amazing.

I mean, still no idea what kind of game it is, but I definitely want it and want it now.

(Though the small town waitress with the southern accent in Washington grates a bit. Then I remember the old Remedy blog posts before Max Payne where they do a safari in NYC and I think 'oh, those Fins!')

[zengonzo]

All diner waitresses have Southern accents, so they can say charming things like 'more coffee, shoog?'

[Charles]

I mean, still no idea what kind of game it is, but I definitely want it and want it now.

I have a feeling we're in for a surprise with respect to what exactly the game is. They've put way too much attention to detail for their overworld and tech to just have it be a bog-standard adventure game.

Remedy is awesome, and I really look forward to this game. I also envy devs who can both keep a good rep and still take as long as they want to finish games.

[Foxstab]

There are some games that just need to be made properly by a bunch of very talented and ambitious developers, and those titles are developed for "however long it takes," especially if they are willing to scrap some of their original ideas because they did not work as well as they thought.

http://www.gameguru.in/images/duke-nukem-forever-3.jpg

[greg wak]

Remedy is awesome, and I really look forward to this game. I also envy devs who can both keep a good rep and still take as long as they want to finish games.

So these guys have not published a game since Max Payne 2? Wow. They must be funded nicely by Microsoft. I too am excited to play this game. I had to ignore it for a bit as I was on a single core CPU. But now I'm all set for the game. Seems like it's still far off though.

[Foxstab]

Trailer! (http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/55459) According to my Finn friend the one shown before the movie was this same trailer, with a little bit of older footage padded in. Interestingly, it was much more jerky and less optimized for a trailer, with hitches and stutters. Apparently this is smoother.

Link's dead.
Here's another one:
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3170803

[madkevin]

I'm getting an "In The Mouth Of Madness" vibe from it, which is alright by me. The town sorta reminds me of the town in Hitchcock's "The Birds".

Hope there's an actual game there.

[Ridah]

The trailer shows off some great story elements, now I want to see some gameplay...

[nabeel]

Link's dead.
Here's another one:
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3170803
It's still working for me o_O but 1Up's is better quality anyway.

[Killzig]

I'm getting an "In The Mouth Of Madness" vibe from it, which is alright by me. The town sorta reminds me of the town in Hitchcock's "The Birds".

Hope there's an actual game there.
I was watching without sound and got a Twin Peaks kind of vibe. Can't wait to watch it again and find out how far off I am. Woo.

[Pogo]

http://www.gameguru.in/images/duke-nukem-forever-3.jpg

So very, very wrong.

[Brakara]

It's still working for me o_O but 1Up's is better quality anyway.

At Gametrailers in HD ftw:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/41821.html

Looks great, but can we dare to hope it comes out next year?

[Killzig]

Wakey wakey.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BppEM0Q0nFw

FAKE :(

[intruder]

Wakey wakey.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BppEM0Q0nFw

According to the comments at YouTube this is fake and out of a cancelled PS3 game.

[Royal Fool]

According to the comments at YouTube this is fake and out of a cancelled PS3 game.

Any idea what game it is? Looks impressive, but the comments seem to have been deleted.

EDIT: Okay, so it's from a game called Redwood Falls, being created by Kuju and which was apparently cancelled last month. Can't find too much info on it, and videos of it aren't very widespread, so it's easy to see how people could have been tricked into thinking (http://ronworkman.tumblr.com/post/73802635/today-has-been-fun-so-far/) this was Alan Wake (even though it is a 3rd person game).

[mixuk]

A trailer related to the E3 is now out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyrUIN3IAtA

High res + extra shots:

http://www.gamersyde.com/news_7926_en.html

[nabeel]

That was awesome. When he lit the flare I got chills.

[Jab2565]

That trailer was pretty good, I've honestly forgetten if this is 360 and Vista only, it's been that long since I've read a preview on it.

[fancimus]

Finally! Looks pretty sweet. Does anyone know if MS announced this at the conference as 360 only or 360/pc, ala L4D2? It was originally slated for both but I wonder if they've changed priorities...I'm really hoping it comes out on PC as well.

[Omniscia]

Yesssss. I never lost hope, but it's nice to get some validation.

[Bahimiron]

This and Heavy Rain are at the top of my Do Want list. I donno why they've got such parity in my mind. Two story driven system exclusives developed by Fancy euros that have been a long time coming, I guess. Even if they've really got nothing storywise or gameplaywise in common.

[zengonzo]

Kinda' like Infamous and Prototype.

[Scrax]

I was excited about this pre Xbox 360. Seemed almost done then too.

[aphoristic gamer]

I watched the gameplay video on Gametrailers and, while the atmosphere, presentation and storyline definitely seem to be out of this world, I'm shocked to see that the game looks like it's extremely linear, contrived and scripted, like some random generic FPS.

I would still be interested if it's the case but I absolutely despise this trend of making games so dumbed down, with someone always spelling out what to do out loud for you, completely linear progression, and scripted hazards unfolding in a cascade that somehow always constructs a way to allow you a narrow escape. It totally kills the feeling of isolation and exploration for me, I stop feeling like I'm out there and it just seems like my hand is always held.

[Royal Fool]

I watched the gameplay video on Gametrailers and, while the atmosphere, presentation and storyline definitely seem to be out of this world, I'm shocked to see that the game looks like it's extremely linear, contrived and scripted, like some random generic FPS.

I would still be interested if it's the case but I absolutely despise this trend of making games so dumbed down, with someone always spelling out what to do out loud for you, completely linear progression, and scripted hazards unfolding in a cascade that somehow always constructs a way to allow you a narrow escape. It totally kills the feeling of isolation and exploration for me, I stop feeling like I'm out there and it just seems like my hand is always held.

Yeah, I was under the impression that the game was a lot more open-ended, with exploration gameplay. Then again, the conference demo doesn't really give a good idea of what to expect, since it's just one area - the game might still keep that open approach. We'll have to see. I just hope Remedy will be answering questions regarding this.

[cliffski]

if you work on a game for years and years, you need it it to be mass-market and dumbed down to have a chance of breaking even. Just look at spore...

[WarrenM]

Not sure what to make of this game. It looks like an interesting setting but what could possibly be taking so long?

[Rob_Merritt]

Looks really good. I'm interested now.

[zengonzo]

Not sure what to make of this game. It looks like an interesting setting but what could possibly be taking so long?

I'd read that it was on slow burn for a time while they worked other projects.

[aphoristic gamer]

Remedy took their own sweet time on the original Max Payne too.

[mixuk]

This is actually the first time we've set a date.

[WarrenM]

I'd read that it was on slow burn for a time while they worked other projects.
What were they doing? I don't remember them shipping anything since Max Payne 2...

[zengonzo]

Yeah, I'm likely misrememberating. It's been so long ..

[Joe M.]

I'm hoping the storyline makes more sense within the context of the game. I mean, I appreciate magic manuscript pages of doom as much as the next guy, but it seems a little lightweight relative to the amazing job they did with the graphics and (what looks like) interesting gameplay.

[Rob_Merritt]

Looks like the PC version is disappearing, at least for a little while.

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/59434

[Scrax]

I was excited about Alan Wake before the 360 was officially released. Seems like a long production time for an action/adventure game. I hope it's going to be worth it for them once it is released, but these kind of games arn't known for ridiculous sales numbers.

[Rock8man]

I was excited about Alan Wake before the 360 was officially released. Seems like a long production time for an action/adventure game. I hope it's going to be worth it for them once it is released, but these kind of games arn't known for ridiculous sales numbers.

True. Hopefully they can use the technology hurdles they've no doubt overcome during the making of this game, and use this engine to turn out another game this generation, and do it at a much faster rate.

[Shadari]

Looks like the PC version is disappearing, at least for a little while.

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/59434
Well rats! That's at least one sale they've lost (or delayed.) It's ironic; a few years ago there was some tech conference (I believe it was by Intel) that was showcasing Alan Wake running on Quad Core technology or some such. The game looked really impressive at the time. I believe it was more of an adventure game back then whereas since then it's morphed into more of an action game. I could be wrong about that though.

[Becoming]

Does anyone still give a shit about this game? It was exciting looking when they showed demos of it..3 years ago. They've taken so long that a new version of windows will be out before this fucking thing ships, if it ever does.

They have to pull a seriously impressive rabbit out of their hats in order to make this anything but a giant failure at this point (imo of course).

[Prodigy]

Were you asleep during E3 ?

What they showed there was fine by me, one of the most impressive games shown this year IMHO.

[nabeel]

I still give a shit about this game.

[Bahimiron]

(imo of course).

You forgot the h.

[Talisker]

You forgot the h.
Unless he's not humble.

[Staff Sergeant]

Or honest.

[Becoming]

I didn't realize I had to include the subtle distinction that I really meant what I actually typed.

I honestly (happy now?) don't care about Alan Wake anymore, and I didn't find the most recent videos all that mind blowing for something that has been in the making for such a ridiculous amount of time.

I'll reserve judgment until I see what the final product has to offer, but their hype machine went off the rails an awful long time ago.

[zengonzo]

I'll reserve judgment until I see what the final product has to offer, but their hype machine went off the rails an awful long time ago.

Well that's the key, isn't it? What on Earth could a shaky development path do to mitigate the quality of the final product once released? Apart from run over your dog ..

[Bahimiron]

Unless he's not humble.

He probably should be.

(And yes, I did mean humble.)

Then again, I guess there's not a whole lot of humble in the act of bumping a day old thread to say 'who gives a shit about this game?*'.

*I do. It's why I read this thread.

[Becoming]

Well that's the key, isn't it? What on Earth could a shaky development path do to mitigate the quality of the final product once released? Apart from run over your dog ..

Nothing about the "shaky development path" bodes well at all, and I'm not the only one a bit apprehensive about the final results. Also, I didn't realize not being excited about a game was a personal offense. I'm sorry if I ran over your dog on the internet because I questioned if they can still deliver a game that I was once excited to play.

He probably should be.

(And yes, I did mean humble.)

Then again, I guess there's not a whole lot of humble in the act of bumping a day old thread to say 'who gives a shit about this game?*'.

*I do. It's why I read this thread.

Well I didn't exactly bump the thread if you check out the half dozen or so posts before mine, but hey it's super that you can't even bother to go one page backward before replying to a thread. I suppose post counts won't inflate themselves though.

[zengonzo]

Nothing about the "shaky development path" bodes well at all, and I'm not the only one a bit apprehensive about the final results. Also, I didn't realize not being excited about a game was a personal offense. I'm sorry if I ran over your dog on the internet because I questioned if they can still deliver a game that I was once excited to play.

No personal offense taken, brother. I don't even have a dog. I wish I did, though. They are awesome.

I just don't understand:

'They have to pull a seriously impressive rabbit out of their hats in order to make this anything but a giant failure at this point'

Why would that be the case? If it turns out to be simply a good game, what will it matter how it got there? Assuming it is fun, would you be too distracted thinking about their development cycle?

[Becoming]

Good question. My only simple answer is, they made it out to be this giant amazing game with all this new tech and so forth, and then it just sputtered and (seemingly) went into hiding. A good game it may end up being, but it's a steep uphill climb to end up where it was originally touted to be. That is all.

[intruder]

PC Version is doubtful according to a German game magazine.
Remedy was not answering the question about the status of that version during their last interview.

If so: Microsoft burn in hell and Alan Wake go to hell...

[Joe M.]

So they hyped their own game and stated at the outset it'd be done "when its done" and now they need to perform a Prestige-like magic trick. I think I've covered all the bases here.

I think the game looks interesting but if there isn't a PC version then that's fine too. There will undoubtedly be other publishers willing to take my money.

[Rob_Merritt]

I'm sure there will be a pc version... a year or more after the 360 version.

[nabeel]

http://www.edge-online.com/news/alan-wake-pc-plans-%E2%80%9Cup-in-the-air%E2%80%9D
Asked specifically whether the game will still be coming to PC at some point in the future, Lake added: “As I said, the plans are open, and once we’re done with the 360 version we’ll evaluate the situation and see what makes sense.”¬____¬

[Prodigy]

they made it out to be this giant amazing game with all this new tech and so forth

They presented their tech and some basics concepts for their game. I don't remember a ton of hype, but it was a long time ago and maybe I forgot. I remember excitement, yes, but that's not the same thing. As often the media frenzy (new game by Max Payne makers and so forth) and the OMG fanboy envy did the rest and created the hype.

I'm not saying Microsoft or Remedy did not hype their game, but it seems to me that you're putting all the blame on them when you should put it partly on us ("us" as in we, gamers) for jumping all over the place and shrieking GOTY every time something cool is shown. Yeah it's been years in the making, as others have said : so what. There are others things to play in the meantime, and if the game is as cool as it looked on the E3 demo, I'll be more than happy.

I think people are getting more and more impatient these days, and if every game is not the ground breaker/genre killer/megaton bomb they think it should be (and I don't recall Remedy presenting Alan Wake this way, but maybe I'm wrong), they are disappointed.

[WarrenM]

Can't wait! This'll be awesome on my 360.

[Rock8man]

Asked specifically whether the game will still be coming to PC at some point in the future, Lake added: “As I said, the plans are open, and once we’re done with the 360 version we’ll evaluate the situation and see what makes sense.”

I'm pretty sure that means that if the 360 version is a flop, then no one is going to bother making a PC version. OTOH, if the 360 version is a moderate to big hit, I'm sure they'll want to put in the effort in finishing a PC version.

I still haven't looked at any of the footage from this game. Not a few years ago, and not from this year's E3 either. It just seemed to me that this is the type of game where being surprised by it might be part of it's appeal, so I'm staying away from detailed previews, screenshots, movies, etc. If the game garners good reviews, then I'll know I can probably go in sight unseen and have a better experience than if I'd spoiled myself in advance with knowing some of the story/gameplay mechanics.

[FoRmaT]

I'm pretty sure that means that if the 360 version is a flop, then no one is going to bother making a PC version. OTOH, if the 360 version is a moderate to big hit, I'm sure they'll want to put in the effort in finishing a PC version.

I wonder if that was the attitude Epic had with GoW?

[Becoming]

Prodigy, I agree things get over-hyped and inflated on the gamer side of things, but when you first show a game at E3 of 2005 (http://pc.ign.com/articles/616/616169p1.html) and (having just passed E3 of 2009) there's no game out yet...I start to worry about what's going on.

You figure they had to have been doing an awful lot of work just to have a presentable demo/video for that first E3 showing, so kind estimates of them working on this for at least 5 years at this point are not unreasonable.

So for that length of time we get shadow monsters that light scares away? Seriously? I'm kind of playing the devil's advocate a bit here, but I really have to wonder what they've actually been doing all this time. Has any other game ever taken so long to develop (that isn't an mmo) and still turned out to be any good?

I'll keep my fingers crossed and if it ends up being great then I'll have no qualms purchasing it, but forgive me if I'm a bit skeptical.

[Rock8man]

Has any other game ever taken so long to develop (that isn't an mmo) and still turned out to be any good?

I believe Psychonauts also had a long and troubled development cycle. But that eventually turned out to be one of my favorite games of all time. So yes, it is possible.

Red Faction: Guerrilla took over 5 years, and that also turned out brilliantly.

[ScubaV]

I believe Psychonauts also had a long and troubled development cycle. But that eventually turned out to be one of my favorite games of all time. So yes, it is possible.

Red Faction: Guerrilla took over 5 years, and that also turned out brilliantly.

Stalker also turned out pretty well. Not amazing, but certainly at least "good".

[Moore]

Good question. My only simple answer is, they made it out to be this giant amazing game with all this new tech and so forth, and then it just sputtered and (seemingly) went into hiding. A good game it may end up being, but it's a steep uphill climb to end up where it was originally touted to be. That is all.

I dont understand this conclusion at all , it isnt like it missed release dates, or had any news reports of trouble within the team. Zero bad news about it ever near as I can tell.

[greg wak]

How much does it cost to port a 360 game to PC. Seems it might be expensive to get it working on all types of configurations, even weeding out the ones below minimum specs. Do they have to redo any art assets for scaling or no? Sound like there is a good chance we might not get this on the PC. Oh well, still plenty of other cool stuff to look forward to, and the last trailer looked a little "gamey".