View Full Version : McCain Campaign: Obama voters are basement-dwelling D&D players.
Angie Gallant
08-18-2008, 06:25 PM
It's like there's a contest to find the silliest slur possible. (http://www.johnmccain.com/McCainReport/Read.aspx?guid=181471d0-5456-4434-9f78-2f30ffc39459)
This is part of their blogger's response to the speculation that McCain might have ripped off the cross story.
It may be typical of the pro-Obama Dungeons & Dragons crowd to disparage a fellow countryman's memory of war from the comfort of mom's basement, but most Americans have the humility and gratitude to respect and learn from the memories of men who suffered on behalf of others.
TomChick
08-18-2008, 06:40 PM
It's a theme with this guy (http://www.johnmccain.com/McCainReport/Read.aspx?guid=36b017e7-3c29-48ba-a009-3012a195c784).
...in their new role as bloggers, [the New York Times'] editors seem to have all the intelligence and reason of the average Daily Kos diarist sitting at home in his mother's basement and ranting into the ether between games of dungeons and dragons.
My theory is that he's got vestigial anger issues from failing his saving throw against a black dragon's acid breath and therefore being unable to get resurrected. I don't suggest this from experience or anything. It's just a theory I'm floating out there, but not because I'd know what that's like.
-Tom
Dave Markell
08-18-2008, 06:44 PM
Oh dear. This is both hilarious and pathetic. D&D'ers (and nerds in general) have never been politically homogenous. My high school group in the '80's had a socialist, a democrat, a couple republicans, me (libertarian), a fascist wannabe, and so on. Nice way to simultaneously alientate a bigger block of voters than you realize and show how out of touch you are, Goldfarb.
Sol Invictus
08-18-2008, 06:47 PM
He'll be calling us internet weenies next. Yeah, everyone who uses the internet is a weenie, man!
Dave Markell
08-18-2008, 06:48 PM
It's a theme with this guy (http://www.johnmccain.com/McCainReport/Read.aspx?guid=36b017e7-3c29-48ba-a009-3012a195c784).
My theory is that he's got vestigial anger issues from failing his saving throw against a black dragon's acid breath and therefore being unable to get resurrected. I don't suggest this from experience or anything. It's just a theory I'm floating out there, but not because I'd know what that's like.
-Tom
Fess up, Tom. You were his DM, weren't you? And you gave him the "special" saving throw d20, the one that you'd weighted to roll 1's most of the time.
malphigian
08-18-2008, 06:57 PM
He's clearly a self-hating former DnD player, just look at him:
http://www.thephillipsfoundation.org/media/fellowship/mgoldfarb.jpg
If you think that guy wasn't playing a rules-lawyering half-elf at some point, you're kidding yourself.
Alternate thread title: McCain Campaign plays the nerd card!
You're all missing the point. Obviously, this means someone on McCain's staff has been reading Qt3.
cesare
08-18-2008, 07:31 PM
http://www.thephillipsfoundation.org/media/fellowship/mgoldfarb.jpg
If you think that guy wasn't playing a rules-lawyering half-elf at some point, you're kidding yourself.
Winnar.
http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/8310/mgoldfarbrobewizardhatcih0.jpg
Brian Rucker
08-18-2008, 07:35 PM
Isn't it from conservative pundits we've seen editorials like "The Empire Was Right" about Star Wars or how the new Batman film celebrates Bush's ideology? Hell, it was McCain, himself, back in 2000 comparing himself to Luke Skywalker...
JeffL
08-18-2008, 07:45 PM
To be fair, it was from bloggers and not McCain. But - D&Ders? LOL!
Quaro
08-18-2008, 08:32 PM
He's the official blogger, the one guy with that position. It's not like Obama's site where anyone can sign up and make a blog.
Angie Gallant
08-18-2008, 08:35 PM
And now it turns out that last time he did this he had to apologize. (http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0808/Goldfarb_keeps_experience_points.html)
Dave Markell
08-18-2008, 08:46 PM
And now it turns out that last time he did this he had to apologize. (http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0808/Goldfarb_keeps_experience_points.html)
If he did it again despite having to apologize last time, the guy really does have issues.
Sol Invictus
08-18-2008, 08:46 PM
I cracked up
what alignment is Barack Obama?
Chaotic Awesome?
RepoMan
08-18-2008, 08:51 PM
It may be typical of the pro-Obama Dungeons & Dragons crowd....
Hey! I resemble that remark!
(his font got serifs goddam)
DragonPup
08-18-2008, 09:11 PM
Obviously cesare's photoshopping caused Goldfarb to back down before the rickroll bombs were dropped. Nerds 1, Campaign Flak 0.
There's a rather unhealthy synergy between this, and the attitude of certain segments of the RPG (and specifically D&D) playing community who wear the marginalisation of the hobby as a badge of pride. One of the sillier arguments I've seen against 4th Edition D&D is that, by being so easy to understand and play, it removes the barriers to entry that keep stupid people out of the hobby.
Dave Markell
08-18-2008, 10:16 PM
One of the sillier arguments I've seen against 4th Edition D&D is that, by being so easy to understand and play, it removes the barriers to entry that keep stupid people out of the hobby.
Wow, are you serious? Why should they care what the intelligence level in some other basement is? And don't they realize how tenuous the survival of PnP roleplaying is at this point? The last thing a niche hobby needs are barriers to entry...
MikeSofaer
08-18-2008, 10:20 PM
Every D&D campaign I've played in has had at least one stupid person.
Angie Gallant
08-18-2008, 10:22 PM
Playing D&D makes me stupid. I like playing stupid characters.
But yes, the elitist arguments over 4E making the game too approachable for new players has brought me endless hours of joy.
Flowers
08-19-2008, 04:48 AM
Say what you want, but if I memorized a decade and a half's worth of Sage Advice columns for nothing, I'm going to nerd reference.
Wallapuctus
08-19-2008, 05:42 AM
I play D&D and I support Obama. But I don't live in my mom's basement, goddammit! I have my own friggin basement where I keep my dice and my internet machine.
Robert Sharp
08-19-2008, 05:49 AM
His point is that people can't criticize war if they've never been in it. They just play at war from their basements and shit. Where he went wrong is in forgetting that the best supporters of the war think we could win it with a well-planned Battletech strategy they discovered just last week.
malphigian
08-19-2008, 06:19 AM
His point is that people can't criticize war if they've never been in it. They just play at war from their basements and shit.
Whereas Michael Goldfarb can play at war because he has a BA in military history.
Oh, and he worked on the Project for a New American Century, which should disqualify him from even opening his mouth, let alone criticizing others.
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