XPav
07-10-2003, 02:09 PM
Howard Dean (and now other democratic candidates) are using MeetUp.com to organize meetings of their supporters.
There was also one for Bush supporters, so a Salon (liberal) reporter went to one to see what the people were like.
It's rather funny to read (and you might have to watch an ad or something), or you can read the funny parts that I"m excerpting below.
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2003/07/10/meetup/index.html
Levin then asked what Gozo meant by fiscally conservative.
"We don't believe that the government should have all the money," Gozo explained. "Why did we have a surplus? Because we were overtaxed! Or do you want to have a more socialist state like Sweden?"
Just then, a second Republican arrived, 45-year-old Anne Frevola, a Manhattan administrative assistant. "Where's the host?" she asked, and Gozo told her he hadn't shown. (An hour later, he still wasn't there.)
Despite Bush's fatherly strength, though, Frevola said he wasn't her first choice for president. "I love Pat Buchanan," she said. As she launched into a Buchananite reverie, Gozo walked away from her. "She's moving too far to the right for me," he said, which seemed odd, since he called Ann Coulter one of his favorite writers.
Morgan disagrees with Bush on the imposition of tariffs on imported steel and is "extremely skeptical" of the USA PATRIOT Act, but he says he respects Bush's strength and honesty. He seemed a bit embarrassed by the situation at Freight and suggested I go to an event at the private Princeton Club if I really want to learn about pro-Bush Manhattan.
Her name was Judy, she was from West Virginia, and she said she worked in the fashion industry, where she encountered liberals "pushing their ways on people." What sort of ways were they pushing? She replied with one word: "Gay."
Of these gays, she said: "I think they're very nice people, but they try to push their agenda like it's normal."
Liberals confounded her as much as conservatives bewilder me. Liberals, she said, secretly believe conservatives are right, "but they try to be socially liberal. If it was their money, they wouldn't spend it so freely. They're do-gooders. I think it's false. Republicans believe you need to better yourself. We can't keep making excuses for everything. It gets to be tiring." And, she added, "They whine constantly."
Any extrapolation of these people to Republicans as a whole is not recommended, because of course, there are a great many people out there irregardless of beliefs who really can't explain to other people coherently why they vote they way do anyway.
There was also one for Bush supporters, so a Salon (liberal) reporter went to one to see what the people were like.
It's rather funny to read (and you might have to watch an ad or something), or you can read the funny parts that I"m excerpting below.
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2003/07/10/meetup/index.html
Levin then asked what Gozo meant by fiscally conservative.
"We don't believe that the government should have all the money," Gozo explained. "Why did we have a surplus? Because we were overtaxed! Or do you want to have a more socialist state like Sweden?"
Just then, a second Republican arrived, 45-year-old Anne Frevola, a Manhattan administrative assistant. "Where's the host?" she asked, and Gozo told her he hadn't shown. (An hour later, he still wasn't there.)
Despite Bush's fatherly strength, though, Frevola said he wasn't her first choice for president. "I love Pat Buchanan," she said. As she launched into a Buchananite reverie, Gozo walked away from her. "She's moving too far to the right for me," he said, which seemed odd, since he called Ann Coulter one of his favorite writers.
Morgan disagrees with Bush on the imposition of tariffs on imported steel and is "extremely skeptical" of the USA PATRIOT Act, but he says he respects Bush's strength and honesty. He seemed a bit embarrassed by the situation at Freight and suggested I go to an event at the private Princeton Club if I really want to learn about pro-Bush Manhattan.
Her name was Judy, she was from West Virginia, and she said she worked in the fashion industry, where she encountered liberals "pushing their ways on people." What sort of ways were they pushing? She replied with one word: "Gay."
Of these gays, she said: "I think they're very nice people, but they try to push their agenda like it's normal."
Liberals confounded her as much as conservatives bewilder me. Liberals, she said, secretly believe conservatives are right, "but they try to be socially liberal. If it was their money, they wouldn't spend it so freely. They're do-gooders. I think it's false. Republicans believe you need to better yourself. We can't keep making excuses for everything. It gets to be tiring." And, she added, "They whine constantly."
Any extrapolation of these people to Republicans as a whole is not recommended, because of course, there are a great many people out there irregardless of beliefs who really can't explain to other people coherently why they vote they way do anyway.