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Gladguy
05-29-2008, 08:52 AM
So, which is it?

Drivers Ed
or
Driver's Ed

Grammatically, I believe it should be Driver's Ed (possessive), however, common usage might come into play here...

What say you?

Enduro_Man
05-29-2008, 08:54 AM
Are you the only one in the class?

(I agree with you on 'Driver's Ed', actually.)

JPR
05-29-2008, 08:55 AM
I would say it's "Drivers' Ed".

Alan Au
05-29-2008, 09:05 AM
Is it education possessed by a driver, or education for drivers?

- Alan

Troy S Goodfellow
05-29-2008, 09:10 AM
Drivers' Ed when referring to the institution, Driver's Ed when referring to a single person's activity.

Troy

JPR
05-29-2008, 09:24 AM
Can you give an example of when you would say "Driver's Ed?" Like, "He got some driver's ed by reading the state driving handbook." If that's what you mean, then I agree.

Troy has the more complete answer.

Wholly Schmidt
05-29-2008, 09:38 AM
Dry Verse Said.

Alan Au
05-29-2008, 10:28 AM
Without the apostrophe, drivers education uses "drivers" as a noun modifier, much like "bus stop" or "court appointment." In that case, it should probably be the singular "driver education."

With the apostrophe, it becomes a possessive, and then the issue is whether you mean education for a single driver or for drivers as a group/collective.

- Alan

Gladguy
05-29-2008, 11:10 AM
Qt3 never fails.

I'm going with Drivers' Ed (plural possessive).

Charles
05-29-2008, 11:27 AM
I've always heard it as simply "Driver Education." Not sure where you guys are getting all these esses!

Gordon Cameron
05-29-2008, 11:55 AM
I would say it's "Drivers' Ed".

This is what I would have thought as well.

I lament the death of apostrophes in our culture. When the Ladies' Man movie came out (not that anybody noticed its release), it had the nonsensical title "The Ladies Man." Are we really so dim as a culture that we can't handle a plural possessive?

Gladguy
05-29-2008, 12:30 PM
This is what I would have thought as well.

I lament the death of apostrophes in our culture. When the Ladies' Man movie came out (not that anybody noticed its release), it had the nonsensical title "The Ladies Man." Are we really so dim as a culture that we can't handle a plural possessive?

If you lament, you must read Eats, Shoots and Leaves (http://www.amazon.com/Eats-Shoots-Leaves-Tolerance-Punctuation/dp/1592402038/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1212089258&sr=8-1), assuming you haven't already.

My personal bugaboo is when people put apostrophes where they shouldn't be; particularly for plurals (i.e. "The book's are over there by the paper's."). Grrrrrrrr....

Funkula
05-29-2008, 12:38 PM
I would say it's "Drivers' Ed".

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Erik Andersson
05-29-2008, 12:57 PM
I would say that you are all a bunch of Grammar Nazi's.

arctangent
05-29-2008, 01:06 PM
It's too much trouble to hit the apostrophe key when typing, so I don't bother, except for words like "don't" and "it's" and "I'm", which I'm programmed to type correctly whether I want to or not.

"Drivers ed", though, pfffftttt.

Here's some extra apostrophes for you all to strew amongst your posts as you see fit. I wont be needing them.

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BobJustBob
05-29-2008, 07:04 PM
Saints Row, not Saint's Row!

fire
05-29-2008, 07:10 PM
This reminds me of Special Ed...

Aeon221
05-29-2008, 07:45 PM
HEIL COMMA!

Omniscia
05-29-2008, 08:24 PM
Why don't we just call it Car School?

Funkula
05-30-2008, 12:24 AM
I would say that your alot of Grammar Nazi's.

Fixted.

tiohn
05-30-2008, 05:45 AM
I figure that if you can't bring yourself to say or type "education", who the fuck cares how else you butcher it?

jerri blank
05-30-2008, 05:49 AM
I have a similar problem with homeowners'/homeowner's/homeowners insurance.

Bill Dungsroman
05-30-2008, 09:18 AM
Drivers' Ed when referring to the institution, Driver's Ed when referring to a single person's activity.

Troy

It would be the latter if referring to the class, if only by convention that the singular condition is used for it.

Talisker
05-30-2008, 09:24 AM
Google fight! (http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=drivers+ed&word2=driver%27s+ed)

Moggraider
05-30-2008, 01:39 PM
Truss recommends that anyone putting an apostrophe in a possessive "its"-as in "the dog chewed it's bone"-should be struck by lightning and chopped to bits.

YES!!

hong
05-31-2008, 01:11 AM
Surely the plural of grammar nazi should be grammar nazies.

Destarius
05-31-2008, 03:09 AM
I don't think "Drivers Education" is wrong, depending on whether you are pre-supposing some form of possessive nature of the education. I would think that if you take the view that this is education governing drivers, as in the context of some legislation (e.g. "Companies Act"), then dropping the apostrophe is fine.