The Identity and Value of Cleve Blakemore

[Brian Koontz]

A Troll is someone who speaks non-serious words, but whose words serve as a catalyst for communication... a catalyst for debate.

Cleve Blakemore is a Troll, mostly. He is a very good though not great troll.

Once you put his words through a five or six step process they come out as something you can work with, but that is much less valuable than simply using him as a springboard toward debate of the issues that he provides a framework for.

Its beyond idiocy to say he is detrimental to the board. Lets address a couple "concerns" about Blakemore...

#1: Blakemore incites hatred.

How exactly is Blakemore inciting hatred? How can NON-serious... aka Trolling, words incite anything in a *straightforward* manner?

As I said before, only people insecure about their lack of racism are concerned about Blakemore inciting them to hatred. And its to THOSE VERY PEOPLE that Blakemore is actually the most valuable. If people have issues concerning their state of racism then its a good idea to *explore* those issues. And that is just what Cleve Blakemore actually ACHIEVES. Not inciting hatred but rather *exploring* racism and exploring race.

Never look at what a human SEEMS to be achieving, or seems to be trying to achieve. Look at what he ACTUALLY achieves. Don't be a fucking moron.

#2: Blakemore drives blacks and to a lesser extent other non-whites and non-heterosexuals and non-males off the message board.

If I was black AND I took Blakemore's words seriously I wouldn't be driven off by them, I would attack them.

But again, Trolls by definition are not serious in a straightforward manner so its kind of a moot point.

Ok, enough of that. Here is Blakemore's identity on Qt3...

Trolls are not necessarily people who don't believe what they are saying. But Blakemore understands that he exists in a social context, and in a social context the meaning of your words are not literal, but rather the effect they have IN that social context.

Blakemore doesn't expect to turn us all into a raging mob of nigger haters. And guess what... he doesn't WANT to, either.

Blakemore wants debate. He wants to raise issues concerning race. What comes of that comes of that.

Blakemore believes race and genes are important, that's for sure. So if you really want to destroy Blakemore rather than encourage him you have to destroy the value of genes, or you can do what I propose and encourage him by doing just what he wants us to do, debate the issue of race.

Here is another aspect of Blakemore's identity, and Blakemore's future on Qt3...

Blakemore is about creating space. The macho front is an attempt to intimidate... its not *strictly* a matter of self-parody although that element is present as well.

He wants space to enable himself confidence, and to increase the power of his words.

Once he attains that confidence (or I should say IF he attains it), you'll notice he gets less extreme in his rhetoric. He'll have to DO less in order to achieve the same objective... introducing debate in his issues.

But probably prior to that he'll explore other, more minor issues for him, like physical strength and its importance to the psychological and social condition.

Once of Blakemore's aspects is fear of his surroundings, and he theorizes that physical strength is key to reducing that fear to a manageable level.

I'd like the people here to stop being idiots and to stop misunderstanding Blakemore. Isn't Qt3 about NOT being an idiot?

[Captain Cookiepants]

BULL.
SHIT.
If I could get that to blink I would.

[TimElhajj]

If I could get that to blink I would.

Thank god for little favors.

[chet]

Thanks koontz, that post is like watching gilligan debate the merits of Arnold the pig on Green Acres. So imaginary and off base from the real world, its only worth is in sheer freak value.

Chet

[Peter Frazier]

I look at some of the messages and their tone nowadays and think 'this isn't the sort of place I want to be seen hanging out at'.
It's a bit like if you went to a regular bar which was a pretty cool, civilized place that was accepting of anyone who came in. Then a few dickheads come in and decide to turn it into what they want as a bar- an aggressive, abusive place where it just isn't comfortable or pleasant to be. They're trashing the place and a few people think it's pretty funny and join in, others are worried that it will be uncool if they try to stop it so they ignore it and hope things will work out whilst the last group are calling for the cops. What's the best thing to do?
Hope that Cleve calms down? I think people started hoping that years ago on usenet. Fat chance of that happening. His whole persona has been based on his aggressive, bellicose style. He has become a toxic parody. There is an obvious pride that he has in his ability to bait people and then argue with them. Whinging and bitching only fuels this inane idea of his that he is somehow involved in some form of intellectual gladiator combat. The idea that if people just accede to Cleve's wish to be treated as alpha male he will grow up is ludicrous.
I appreciate that Cleve has the ability to communicate his ideas in an entertaining manner but many of his posts are pointless trolls. Noone's mind is going to be changed from any of these posts. There is no reasonable way to discuss the information that he uncovers without prejudice. The posts are pointless in that noone is going to benefit from their existence. His fan club can continue to act as though what he has written is the sort of stuff that everyone talks about and agrees with. His opponents will froth at the mouth and counter-attack. More words are typed for no good reason. And the only thing that has really been done is the chipping away of a little bit more of the dignity of this board.
Myself, I don't want to see any moderation because I think Mark and Tom are too busy to be expected to be dealing with this shit. Anyone else who asks to be a moderator is usually the sort of person I don't want to be a moderator. I'm just going to set my own level of dignity and participate and respond to posts that fall within that range. Cleve's discussion in 28 Days is above my level, Cleve's racist links aren't.

[Brian Koontz]

Myself, I don't want to see any moderation because I think Mark and Tom are too busy to be expected to be dealing with this shit.

You're kidding, right? This messageboard entitled "Politics and Religion" should really be titled "Politics, Religion, and Cleve Blakemore issues". THIS thread for example is not Politics or Religion... I do believe Mark or Tom moved all Cleve Blakemore threads over to this forum regardless of content (or rather, BECAUSE their content was generated by Cleve Blakemore).

Its obvious that the intention is to create a seperated and therefore controlled environment for Blakemore. Pro-Blakemore issue dealers thus are seperated from the Anti-Blakemore issue dealers.

In other words, Mark and Tom are moderating whether you see it or not.

[Peter Frazier]

I posted my message just before Mark moved the messages over. It will be interesting to see if Cleve follows the rules or if he repeats his efforts in the movie thread where his 'review' is a Trojan Horse for one of his rants. It's no fun being a rebellious non-conformist when people take pains to accomodate your differences.
Finally, I would find it very hard to talk about Cleve without talking about the issues that he raises which brings us back to making this thread on topic.

[Angie Gallant]

#2: Blakemore drives blacks and to a lesser extent other non-whites and non-heterosexuals and non-males off the message board.

If I was black AND I took Blakemore's words seriously I wouldn't be driven off by them, I would attack them.

So because you would react one way we should assume everyone would react the same way and not worry about it? Buh?

[Cleve Blakemore]

I posted my message just before Mark moved the messages over. It will be interesting to see if Cleve follows the rules or if he repeats his efforts in the movie thread where his 'review' is a Trojan Horse for one of his rants. It's no fun being a rebellious non-conformist when people take pains to accomodate your differences.
Finally, I would find it very hard to talk about Cleve without talking about the issues that he raises which brings us back to making this thread on topic.

You've already talked to me, in person, many times Peter on the job we worked together on. What was my problem? Was I a hater? Or was I somewhere between 1000 and 10,000 times better read, better thought, more experienced and more widely exposed to the realities of the world than probably anybody you've ever known in your entire adult life?

In all honesty, Pete, you don't really think that a guy who has had his ass planted as an animatronic in front of a CRT screen the past ten years could hope to hold a candle to a human being like me, do you? It would be like comparing an animal who has spent his entire life in captivity in a tiny cage with a free roaming Wolverine.

This is pretty much the life story of everybody you know, Pete:

1. Lived with mum n' dad in little middle class house in all-white suburb.
2. Went to college after graduating from higher school, at no time any thought processes actually triggered in brain, no need for them, mostly existed in hallucinogenic fake reality that was combination of old episodes of Gilligan's Island and Star Trek.
3. Graduated with specialist degree in technical skill, majored in marxist brainwashing.
4. Hired out of school where worked at meaningless day job, earning revenues for government as slave in fiat money system, nights occupied by idle chatter about spectator sports, consumer goods and childless random sexual encounters or possible encounters. Life basically like that of main character in Brazil except with less dismal looking buildings.
5. Bought lots of junk promoted in popular culture and lived vicariously through the accounts of the lives of celebrities.

Right?

Now, compare this with my life, Pete. I won't bore you with details, but :

1. Grew up moving weekly in single parent broken home, experienced enormous tragedy and loss before I was even out of high school.
2. After being diagnosed as a savant at 9 years old, spent most of my life completely ignoring educational system and instead teaching myself through a self-imposed regimen of reading 8 hours a day, 7 days a week, for around 20 years.
3. At 22 years, had visited half the nations on Earth in the military and worked beside the other races up close and personal for nearly four years on a daily basis less than inches away.
4. At 24 years old, apparently went through some Bruce Banner type of physical metamorphosis where I went from being a slim, mild mannered intellectual and turned myself (without steroids) into a hellish super-powered comic book character with the strength of ten men.
5. Life from 25 to 30 was just a wee bit short of a full-on John Woo film, with an epic battle in the streets of Los Angeles during the riots with automatic weapons and full roundhouse spinning kicks keeping the Zulu hordes at bay until the National Guard could arrive. This was my final year before migrating to Oz, you see. So while you were laughing yourself silly over Seinfeld at home, masturbating and building your Nintendo Pog collection, I was smashing through the plate glass windows of department stores in stranglehold death locks with these great diversity enrichers you're always telling me I've got it all wrong about. You claim I just don't know what I'm talking about you see, because you just rented the latest Denzel Washington film and were just flabbergasted by the noble spirit of this supernegro and can't see how anybody would ever consider themselves anything but a second class citizen in comparison and how the most wonderful thing that could happen to any of us is to someday get the opportunity to force our girlfriends to fellate one of these fine princes of the universe.

But I'm the one who is just not right in the head, you see. I've got it all wrong. Uh-huh. I'm the one who needs to get hisself more edujmacated.

You know what somebody said to me the other day?

"Your problem is all this independent reading you do. If you were more like other people and just read the books that everybody knows are important and stayed away from books in general, plus you should watch more television, you'd be more like all of us and not so weird. I mean nobody reads nowadays, it's practically antisocial to read. Reading can make a person act really odd so it's their fault if they end up in trouble with the law."

Well, you'd reckon, wouldn't you?

[chet]

Cleve, do you drive a Taxi?

People with similar bios to Cleve, sadly everyone of these geniuses has been forced to become a cab driver. Society just can't handle these alpha males.

Unemployable Genius (http://community-2.webtv.net/Archure/Resume/index.html)

Sam Sloan (http://www.samsloan.com/)

Taxi1010 (http://www.taxi1010.com/)

[Gary Whitta]

I don't quite understand what creating this new forum is expected to achieve. Cleve and his handful of cohorts are just going to continue to spew the same white-supremacist bile in here; just as soon as he recovers from laughing his head off that he has managed to cause such fervor and disarray that the mods actually went and created an entirely new forum for no other apparent reason than some attempt to contain him and placate his legions of apalled critics. If that's not giving his already comically engorged ego one long, slow, soapy-handed jerk-off, I don't know what is.

So, Cleve will continue to expound at length on his theories about how the noble white man must do something about those cannibal niggaz, but that's okay because now it says POLITICS AND RELIGION at the top of the thread. Brilliant!

[Jason McCullough]

Now, compare this with my life, Pete. I won't bore you with details, but:

Cleve Blakemore, participant in the culture of victimization.

[Cleve Blakemore]

I don't quite understand what creating this new forum is expected to achieve. Cleve and his handful of cohorts are just going to continue to spew the same white-supremacist bile in here; just as soon as he recovers from laughing his head off that he has managed to cause such fervor and disarray that the mods actually went and created an entirely new forum for no other apparent reason than some attempt to contain him and placate his legions of apalled critics. If that's not giving his already comically engorged ego one long, slow, soapy-handed jerk-off, I don't know what is.

So, Cleve will continue to expound at length on his theories about how the noble white man must do something about those cannibal niggaz, but that's okay because now it says POLITICS AND RELIGION at the top of the thread. Brilliant!

Oh, Gary, please give it a rest. Your crescendo of high strung girly voice indignation is reaching some kind of hideous nadir of theatrics. Just vacate your house and turn the keys over to some Cubans, I'll put you up for canonization at the Vatican. Such a performance artist. Are you striking your breast with one hand and the other thrown over your brow, tears of pity running down your cheeks for your homeboys-in-abstentia you're trying to defend? Why don't you let them defend themselves? Well, possibly because most of them are still trying to figure out how to turn on the computers they stole during the L.A. riots.

[Gary Whitta]

Hey Cleve, you do know that one of the two main heroic characters in 28 DAYS LATER is black, right? Just wanted to point that out before you went and wasted good money on the DVD.

[King Lupid]

Cleve, I have a question for you:

If it was possible for you to become something greater than your societal stereotype, is the same thing possible for some blacks?

Do you think some of your stronger emotions might be based in the tragedy you felt at such a young age?

Please don't take this as an attack. It's not, I'm just curious.

[Kalle]

2. After being diagnosed as a savant at 9 years old...

Let me guess, idiot savant.

[Peter Frazier]

You've already talked to me, in person, many times Peter on the job we worked together on.


Sorry Cleve but I have no recollection of this. Or is this a comment designed to show my ignorance?
Anyway, please note that at no time have I said anything about your intellect or education. My major beef is that you are unnecessarily belligerent and that you post topics which demean the general nature of these boards. You can do your kung fu hockey sockey flying kicks as much as you want in a riot and get away with it. Try it in a mall on a quiet sunday morning and see how far you get. Likewise, you can post whatever you want on usenet and not worry about what it does to usenet. It's a bit different here though. I don't think this board can take daily posts on race and not suffer from it. You can continue pressure testing this board but in the long run noone will end up participating simply because everyone will ignore you. That doesn't mean that you win in a bizarre King of the Hill way either. It means you miss out on communicating with a bunch of bright and pretty funny people. Your choice.

[Idar Thorvaldsen]

It means you miss out on communicating with a bunch of bright and pretty funny people. Your choice.

Alternatively, it will mean that a bunch of bright and pretty funny people, whose discussions I enjoy, will miss out on communicating with each other.

[Cleve Blakemore]

You've already talked to me, in person, many times Peter on the job we worked together on.


Sorry Cleve but I have no recollection of this. Or is this a comment designed to show my ignorance?
Anyway, please note that at no time have I said anything about your intellect or education. My major beef is that you are unnecessarily belligerent and that you post topics which demean the general nature of these boards. You can do your kung fu hockey sockey flying kicks as much as you want in a riot and get away with it. Try it in a mall on a quiet sunday morning and see how far you get. Likewise, you can post whatever you want on usenet and not worry about what it does to usenet. It's a bit different here though. I don't think this board can take daily posts on race and not suffer from it. You can continue pressure testing this board but in the long run noone will end up participating simply because everyone will ignore you. That doesn't mean that you win in a bizarre King of the Hill way either. It means you miss out on communicating with a bunch of bright and pretty funny people. Your choice.

I assumed you're the Peter Frazier at Fujitsu in Brisbane I worked with who was constantly surfing QT3. Am I wrong? I had assumed this for months.

In my next post, I was going to ask you what you thought of me after you and Gray spent 6 months laughing at my wild tales of coming Islamic Terrorism that would change the face of the West and how they would very shortly destroy either the Statue of Liberty, World Trade Center or Empire State Building. Followed by wars of aggression in the Middle East against the wrong targets ala Robert A. Heinlein because the U.S. would be unable to identify the people responsible for the actual terrorism. I was going to ask you what you thought of me when 8 months after I left, everything came to pass nearly identical to the way I predicted it. I thought you were this guy who used to shake his head in stunned astonishment at these wild outlandish fantasies.

If your name is Peter Frazier and you do work at Fujitsu in Brisbane and you don't remember me, doesn't this just demonstrate that you are completely out in space?

[Cleve Blakemore]

Cleve, I have a question for you:

If it was possible for you to become something greater than your societal stereotype, is the same thing possible for some blacks?

Of course - some of them fall on the right half of the Bell Curve almost into the same range needed to live outside a cage. How does that help with 70 million natural born civilization destroyers who could not be changed by cradle-to-grave management, the best environment and nutrition money could possibly buy, assuming money just started pouring out of a black hole from another universe?



Do you think some of your stronger emotions might be based in the tragedy you felt at such a young age?

Oprah says this is a bad thing, right? Convictions are evil and caused by too much in-depth reading. That's why Oprah runs her own book club to carefully recommend people towards harmless titles about women in the 16th century agony-torn over their desire to wear a blue frock in public. Oprah recommends if you ever feel any strong emotions coming on, you should call her 800 toll free number and speak to a counselor about purchasing some useful consumer goods to take your mind off it.

Soma! Orgy-porgy! Keep them tax revenues rollin' in and don't worry, be happy!

[Brian Koontz]

So because you would react one way we should assume everyone would react the same way and not worry about it? Buh?

Two points...

#1: The very next line reads "But again, Trolls by definition are not serious in a straightforward manner so its kind of a moot point."

I don't treat Blakemore's words like I treat Case's words on hardware... that is, entirely straightforwardly.

I put the words on a sieve. The crap drains away leaves a kernel of quality. There is often *something* there of value, which is more than can be said for many posters on this forum.

Compare that to how many other posters treat Cleve's words, which to to accept the crap with the quality, and since the crap outweighs the quality they complain about the crap!

Use the sieve, people... use THE SIEVE!

I don't personally think that very many people process words as effectively as I do, but I don't think anyone treats Blakemore's words straightforwardly. I don't think anyone on this board says "Oh my God, some silly rhetoric from Blakemore is so damn influential! I'm hypotized. I am now a Zombie Horde member out to kill the blackies!"

And frankly, if anyone is THAT stupid then I kind of hope Blakemore influences them in that way. Kind of like a Darwinian removal from society kind of thing.

#2: I am aware that I have more weapons to counter attacks than most people and that its possible that Blakemore will drive away individuals. I have this reply...

Anyone who is driven away by a Troll is someone unlikely to be worthy of being in Qt3 anyway. In all my time on forums I don't recall a single instance of a particularly valuable poster driven away by a (single) Troll. Now, if a Troll leads to a degradation of quality of the messageboard that's a different, and considerably more serious issue.

As for that "considerably more serious issue", I will continue to encourage a wise treatment of Blakemore (which by necessity results from *understanding* Blakemore). If people get stupid about Blakemore and take offense to his words then that's their fault, not Blakemore's.

When the time comes when Blakemore's issues are dealt with (if the time comes, not a lot has happened so far), he'll either have to create some new issues or he'll have to adopt an altered persona, OR if he continues trolling at that point the trolling will be useless and action can be taken against him.

If you really want to destroy Blakemore's persona, then attack his issues. Destroy the value of genes OR promote non-caucasian genes. Promote culture as what creates human identity. Mock the vanity of bodybuilding, as I already did on this forum.

Given some of the butt-stupid things that people sometimes talk about here, debates on genetics, culture, and the sociological implications of bodybuilding can't really be considered a bad thing.

[Mark Asher]

I don't quite understand what creating this new forum is expected to achieve. Cleve and his handful of cohorts are just going to continue to spew the same white-supremacist bile in here; just as soon as he recovers from laughing his head off that he has managed to cause such fervor and disarray that the mods actually went and created an entirely new forum for no other apparent reason than some attempt to contain him and placate his legions of apalled critics. If that's not giving his already comically engorged ego one long, slow, soapy-handed jerk-off, I don't know what is.

So, Cleve will continue to expound at length on his theories about how the noble white man must do something about those cannibal niggaz, but that's okay because now it says POLITICS AND RELIGION at the top of the thread. Brilliant!

We just wanted to move political and religious topics out of the catch-all Everything Else category. If people get offended by this stuff it's easier to skip it now.

[Peter Frazier]

I assumed you're the Peter Frazier at Fujitsu in Brisbane I worked with who was constantly surfing QT3. Am I wrong? I had assumed this for months.


Sorry man, I've never been to Brisbane. 5 years at Walgett teaching in a screwed up aboriginal community is the furthest north I've ever ventured.

It scares me that I have a clone up north. If we touch, will there be an explosion that ends the universe ala antimatter?

Anyway, you now have permission to stop pulling punches if you were doing it for the sake of friendship. :wink:

Oh, and Peter, if you're reading this; get back to work you friggin slacker!

[Anonymous]

I used the sieve on this entire thread. Why do you people insist on feeding his ego? Whether it's good or bad, the relentless focus on his presence and passion you display for his content reveals a subconcious attarction for Cleve and his ramblings. This process remains irrevocably, irrelevant.

[Brandon Clements]

^Somebody tell me why the above post looks wrong (and I'm looking at you, Tom and Mark! :lol: )

[chet]

Mark/Tom so you didn't have to dig up the settings in c ase you forgot, I adjusted them to be like the other forums. If you want to set them back -it is admin/forums/permissions.

Chet

[bmulligan]

Have I been banned?


I used the sieve on this entire thread. Why do you people insist on feeding his ego? Whether it's good or bad, the relentless focus on his presence and passion you display for his content reveals a subconcious attarction for Cleve and his ramblings. This process remains irrevocably, irrelevant.


that's me. Please give credit where credit is due.[/quote]

[Brian Koontz]

Have I been banned?


I used the sieve on this entire thread. Why do you people insist on feeding his ego? Whether it's good or bad, the relentless focus on his presence and passion you display for his content reveals a subconcious attarction for Cleve and his ramblings. This process remains irrevocably, irrelevant.


that's me. Please give credit where credit is due.[/quote]

I must be missing something. I thought you had to register to post, and therefore no Guests could post.

[chet]

I must be missing something. I thought you had to register to post, and therefore no Guests could post.

That is what we have been trying to tell you.

Chet

[bmulligan]

HEY! we can say BANNED again !! Just as I was getting used to the humor in word replacement.

[hermyhermit]

Regardless of what myself and Cleve agree/disagree on, I find his posts to be comedic on many levels so my gut feeling is he does contribute in some ways to this board.

Though he tends toward hyperbole, like I said in my very first post here, this is certainly a grain of truth in some of his ideas, and a whole lot of truth in others.

That being said... Does it get tiresome to see multiple threads about race, etc? Yes it does.

The liberal folk here are very set in their ways. They beleive what they beleive largely because of the ignorance of never being exposed to the object of their affections and simply beleiving what they have been told to beleive. So why argue with them?

It is redundant and yes it certainly gets old. I think some discussion is good but it can be driven into the ground if taken too far.

We have covered the race base. Liberals love all magical noble black people and will to the bitter end. 1000 Cleves won't change their mind so why keep bringing it up? Couple this with the extreme taboo of even *talking* about race in today's society and especially, god forbid, criticizing the noble downtrodden black man and it makes for some inflammatory threads that go nowhere fast.

Cleve brings discussion and he is intelligent enough to offer debate so I don't mind his presence, but if every third topic is about race, yes that will drive the board down in a hurry. The ends of the spectrum are too far apart so I think it should be toned down.

I'm not calling for censorship, I think anyone should be able to talk about anything no matter how reactionary, but redundancy is the key here. Talking in circles becomes pointless and its mainly the outcome of some of these threads.

[Cleve Blakemore]

Exactly, Hermy. Biological egalitarianism is a religion for secular humanists. Multiculturalism is a catholicism for people who no longer believe in God but almost certainly believe in fairy tales.

There's no point in discussing it, as I have pointed out these types of people will actually be castrated and getting slammed in the arse in new Aztlan and will cling to their belief system right up until the bloody end. There is no dissuading them, no matter how mad their orthodoxy. In this sense they could be regarded as genetic dead ends.

[Captain Cookiepants]

The liberal folk here are very set in their ways. They beleive what they beleive largely because of the ignorance of never being exposed to the object of their affections and simply beleiving what they have been told to beleive. So why argue with them?

[hermyhermit]

The liberal folk here are very set in their ways. They beleive what they beleive largely because of the ignorance of never being exposed to the object of their affections and simply beleiving what they have been told to beleive. So why argue with them?


Only the truly witless and pathetic can come up with nothing better than spelling mistakes.

Don't quit your day job fat boy.

[Cleve Blakemore]

Only the truly witless and pathetic can come up with nothing better than spelling mistakes.

Don't quit your day job fat boy.

Cookiepants is rump roast the first day of CW2. The hispanics are gonna cut a beeline for his front door the second that martial law is declared and food transit is interrupted.

"Amigos, follow me! The gringo inside this condo holds the key to independence for Aztlan! Properly sliced and managed, this buffarilla can easily support us until the end of the next crop season! Andele!! Arriba! Arriba!" (sounds of gunfire and whoops)

A large mob of diversity friends rushes in on Cookiepants, desperately trying to type in one last post on QT3 as their hungry hands close on him ...

FELLAS. COOKIEPANTS HERE. LOOKS LIKE CLEVE WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG. BY THE TIME YOU READ THIS, I WILL BE INSIDE AN ENCHILADA IN A POOL OF TABASCO. MARTIAL LAW DECLARED. RIOTS. SECESSION VOTE TAKEN IN CA LEGISLATURE TODAY PASSED BY UNANIMOUS AGREEMENT. THEY'RE COMING FOR ME. AT THE DOOR. NOW THEY'RE IN THE HALL OUTSIDE. REMEMBER ME AS YOUR BIG FAT GAY LIBERAL BUDDY WHO DIDN'T HAVE A CLUE. THIS IS MY FINAL MESSAGE. GOODBYE ..... (trails off in random ascii chars)

[Ibbz]

I havent laughed this hard in ages! :D:D:D

Cleve - I've noticed recently there seems to be a bigger push for Australia to be viewed as a multicultural country - What are your views on this?

[Cleve Blakemore]

I havent laughed this hard in ages! :D:D:D

Cleve - I've noticed recently there seems to be a bigger push for Australia to be viewed as a multicultural country - What are your views on this?

Australia is currently overloaded well past her carrying capacity in population. We can't afford to take on so much as one more immigrant. There are no jobs for those here now and the agricultural and environmental conditions are approaching collapse. There's now enough salt runoff from the developed regions that the outflows are destroying the Great Barrier Reef. Party's over, fellas, we can't take any more enrichers onto this lifeboat.

[The Narrator]

The alliance created an unstoppable force. Who better to defend the board's resident genius (IQ 158 Stanford Binet/183 Wechsler-Brenner) than the most respected thinker on the board, by far? Together, the Wonder Twin-like powers of their brains would solve many of the world's most daunting problems, and the duo become famous for verifying the Riemann Hypothesis during a late night of delt reps and coconut drinks.

[m0nty]

We are almost all immigrants in Australia. Especially Cleve.

[Robert Sharp]

Exactly, Hermy. Biological egalitarianism is a religion for secular humanists. Multiculturalism is a catholicism for people who no longer believe in God but almost certainly believe in fairy tales.


Unfortunately, there is some truth in that. Actually, a lot of truth in that.

[bmulligan]

Then i'm sure it won't be long until the Aussie government places a ban on immigration. Their propensity to proactively ban all potentially harmful substances, ideas, and people without any basis in fact is laughable.

It's puzzling why anyone would want to live there in the first place, unless they find the cradle of public good police comforting. You'd think the rest of the world would learn from our public policy mistakes, not extrapolate them into an orwellian utopia.[/i]

[Cleve Blakemore]

Then i'm sure it won't be long until the Aussie government places a ban on immigration. Their propensity to proactively ban all potentially harmful substances, ideas, and people without any basis in fact is laughable.

It's puzzling why anyone would want to live there in the first place, unless they find the cradle of public good police comforting. You'd think the rest of the world would learn from our public policy mistakes, not extrapolate them into an orwellian utopia.[/i]

1. Lowest overall megatonnage to be used guarantees your biggest threat will be background radiation, not direct blast effects.

2. Highly technical industrialized western civilization with very advanced level of independence for post reconstruction

3. Majority population is still human

4. Oceans on four sides indicates reasonable defense is possible with right level of paranoia and devotion to national sovereignty

5. Paternalistic government may not be optimum but may come in handy getting nation to selfishly guard it's own interests instead of those championed by globalist elite

6. Howard's draconian legislation regarding arms is already under attack by a grass roots movement and the utter failure of the amnesty is now on display for the whole world to see. Australia has the highest rates of felony crime in the world despite a small population.

7. No civil defense program of any kind here promises the left half of the Bell Curve will vanish like bad smelling steam when the first strike comes.

[Brian Koontz]

The alliance created an unstoppable force. Who better to defend the board's resident genius (IQ 158 Stanford Binet/183 Wechsler-Brenner) than the most respected thinker on the board, by far? Together, the Wonder Twin-like powers of their brains would solve many of the world's most daunting problems, and the duo become famous for verifying the Riemann Hypothesis during a late night of delt reps and coconut drinks.

I like your posts. Many of the first 10 or 12 were classic, and even though they've degraded since they remain of good quality.

I'm not so much promoting Blakemore as promoting Trolling. Trolling done WELL is highly valuable, as I already pointed out by referencing my old trash talking days. Blakemore is this board's best Troll, better by far than Huffman or Smart. So Blakemore is a pawn who is wielding a banner that is fought over.

As I previously mentioned, Blakemore is the first rabidly right-wing poster, a nice counterweight to McCullough. And therefore he finds a very important niche in the Qt3 social and issue structure. He is responsible one way or another for hermyhermit and bmulligan, although bmulligan is distancing himself from Blakemore as we speak. Not a bad idea ;).

Its hard to say how things will go for Blakemore. His stuff seems a little flat, especially considering his apparent reputation. One of my pet theories is that hermyhermit and Blakemore are the same person. Its fairly common for Trolls to use aliases to argue against themselves when others are not drawn into the conversation. Perhaps someone can say if Blakemore used aliases in the same way back in his Usenet days?

Blakemore shouldn't have to try so hard to encourage conversation. Genetics, race, physical strength, etc. are fine topics.

This is one Troll that SHOULD be fed.

Cleve Blakemore holds the Troll banner aloft, and may he hold it proudly!

PS: My pet theory on the identity of The Narrator is DrCrypt, although I'd say that the odds of me being right on that is only maybe 25%.

PPS: I'm concerned that Tom and Mark's campaign to marginalize Blakemore will go too far. I have a feeling there may be a Rumble Down Under... troubling brewing in the Qt3 paradise...

I suppose politics is always the final frontier.

The future should be very interesting, very interesting indeed. And now for the next episode of The Young and The Restless...

[Met_K]

Trolling is not about being outright in the left field, which Cleve is. Trolling is about being subtle. Everyone here should know he is trolling, yet do not, or still bother to reply. Thus, the art of trolling is lost. Go read the troll black book and you might understand what trolling really is, until then, might I suggest reading up on the alt.bitterness/rec.org.mensa wars so you can really gain a bit of an idea as to what trolling really is.

You, my friend, might just be the very best troll of them all. You are subtle, but insane. I don't think you're a troll, others don't either. You're just 'cute' enough in your posts to not be. But are you? Who knows. If you are, my hat goes off to you, you're atop the list of the best I know. If not, then you're insane mother-fucker, and you should really think about learning about trolling and maybe majoring in it.

Just a thought. Cleve's not good, in the least. You, however, are, even if unintentionally.

[Tom Chick]

Psst, hey everybody, I think Met_K is hitting on Brian Koontz...!

-Tom

[Met_K]

Fuck off, Tom. Why'd you have to go and spill the beans after I got loaded at Shoot Club last time? Shit.

Next thing you know you'll tell everyone that I once admitted to having a secret crush on Lars, even to the point of finding him more attractive than Sparky. Those... those red eyes!...er...oops.

[Brian Koontz]

Trolling is not about being outright in the left field, which Cleve is. Trolling is about being subtle. Everyone here should know he is trolling, yet do not, or still bother to reply. Thus, the art of trolling is lost. Go read the troll black book and you might understand what trolling really is, until then, might I suggest reading up on the alt.bitterness/rec.org.mensa wars so you can really gain a bit of an idea as to what trolling really is.

You, my friend, might just be the very best troll of them all. You are subtle, but insane. I don't think you're a troll, others don't either. You're just 'cute' enough in your posts to not be. But are you? Who knows. If you are, my hat goes off to you, you're atop the list of the best I know. If not, then you're insane mother-fucker, and you should really think about learning about trolling and maybe majoring in it.

I'm very possible to understand... I leave clues all over the place.

The Sieve is one of the hallmarks of my identity. If you don't use the sieve you poison yourself over time. I think you as a person are absolutely case-in-point... the crap of humanity has drained into you and you've personalized it to the point where you're bitter at the results.

I define a Troll by what it can create when it is guided well. You define a Troll by what it can create when it runs monstrously unchecked.

I define a Troll by what it creates after the sieve has rendered it a thing of beauty.

You define a Troll by its ugly surface, by the rough edges, by the unfortunate means from which it applies itself.

My definitions and the power in which I can APPLY my definitions *enable* me to pursue my definitions.

And You? You stand appalled not that I would endeavor such, but that I would treat as valuable something that you, in your infinite Anti-Wisdom, can only see as ugly.

[Troy S Goodfellow]

My definitions and the power in which I can APPLY my definitions *enable* me to pursue my definitions.

Like how you define "espouse"?

Troy

[The Narrator]

Outraged at being called out on his ignorance of the "i before e" rule, HermyHermit crafted a stunning defense. "Only the truly witless and pathetic can come up with nothing better than spelling mistakes," he typed, punching the keys dramatically as if to drive the point home. Then he added a fat joke. "Check and mate," he thought to himself. It was only later, reflecting on what he had typed, that he realized his retort meant exactly the opposite of what he intended. More upsettingly, he realized that it was more correct this way.

[bmulligan]

I think I love The Narrator

you really know how to hit my spot almost every time!!

the other times I just fake it.

[Met_K]

There is no value to a troll. End of story.

[The Narrator]

The man who played Brian Koontz turned and looked in the mirror. Smiling, he asked his reflection: "How do you do it?" At the risk of being vain, he admitted to himself that "the sieve" had been a masterstroke, possibly the greatest weapon in the Koontzian arsenal since statistical analysis. He sat back and waited. But there was little response. Perhaps it was too dense? Perhaps he'd gone too far into the forest of meaninglessness? If so, all the better. The man took another long look at himself. "Wagner James Au," he said, "you are a fucking genius."

[Cleve Blakemore]

And You? You stand appalled not that I would endeavor such, but that I would treat as valuable something that you, in your infinite Anti-Wisdom, can only see as ugly.

Can you see the doctor examining this guy after his boating accident? Shining a penlight in his eyes and speaking with his relatives?

"I regret to inform you that Brian sustained an enormous blow to his frontal lobes that has affected his speech and gait. He may speak in a very odd fashion using weird rambling malapropisms and strange alliterative run-on paragraphs. There's nothing really we can do - a terrible bloodclot prevents us from operating, all we can hope is that it subsides in time on it's own. Now you're fully covered by insurance for this disability and Brian should be kept at home and get lots of rest. Do you have something to occupy him at home during his recovery, say ... fingerpaints, colored blocks, perhaps internet access?"

They left Brian parked in his wheelchair with a happy grin on his face. After a few false starts on local UFO and New Age forums, Brian finally found his niche over at QT3 as official card-carrying village idiot.

[Met_K]

This (http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=3474580b.24969998%40stevep133&rnum=18&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Drec.org.mensa%2Bgroup:alt.bitterness% 26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26group%3Dalt.bitterness%26start%3D10%26sa%3DN) is (http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=352c7430.12844863%40news.supernews.com&rnum=36&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Drec.org.mensa%2Bgroup:alt.bitterness% 2Bgroup:alt.bitterness%2Bgroup:alt.bitterness%26hl %3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26group%3Dalt.bitterness%26start%3D30%26sa%3DN) how (http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=62rhfb%248sb%241%40enoch.intertek.net&rnum=38&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Drec.org.mensa%2Bgroup:alt.bitterness% 2Bgroup:alt.bitterness%2Bgroup:alt.bitterness%26hl %3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26group%3Dalt.bitterness%26start%3D30%26sa%3DN) you (http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=5vsquq%24lhb%241%40nntp4.u.washington.edu&rnum=40&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Drec.org.mensa%2Bgroup:alt.bitterness% 2Bgroup:alt.bitterness%2Bgroup:alt.bitterness%26hl %3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26group%3Dalt.bitterness%26start%3D30%26sa%3DN) fucking (http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=NEWTNews.836629405.7088.jmm%40jmm&rnum=56&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Drec.org.mensa%2Bgroup:alt.bitterness% 2Bgroup:alt.bitterness%2Bgroup:alt.bitterness%2Bgr oup:alt.bitterness%2Bgroup:alt.bitterness%26hl%3De n%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26group%3Dalt.bitterness%26start%3D50%26sa%3DN) troll (http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=4rv6m2%24qo1%40brownfox.svs.com&rnum=55&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Drec.org.mensa%2Bgroup:alt.bitterness% 2Bgroup:alt.bitterness%2Bgroup:alt.bitterness%2Bgr oup:alt.bitterness%2Bgroup:alt.bitterness%26hl%3De n%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26group%3Dalt.bitterness%26start%3D50%26sa%3DN) you (http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=1779412375S86.ITHOMAS%40UGA.CC.UGA.EDU&rnum=58&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Drec.org.mensa%2Bgroup:alt.bitterness% 2Bgroup:alt.bitterness%2Bgroup:alt.bitterness%2Bgr oup:alt.bitterness%2Bgroup:alt.bitterness%26hl%3De n%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26group%3Dalt.bitterness%26start%3D50%26sa%3DN) insane (http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=1779310F6FS86.ITHOMAS%40UGA.CC.UGA.EDU&rnum=59&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Drec.org.mensa%2Bgroup:alt.bitterness% 2Bgroup:alt.bitterness%2Bgroup:alt.bitterness%2Bgr oup:alt.bitterness%2Bgroup:alt.bitterness%26hl%3De n%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26group%3Dalt.bitterness%26start%3D50%26sa%3DN) fuck (http://groups.google.com/groups?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=group%3Aalt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica.*+author%3Amet+artists+better +than+kirk+hammett).

[Idar Thorvaldsen]

This is one Troll that SHOULD be fed.

Cleve Blakemore holds the Troll banner aloft, and may he hold it proudly!

Did you ever read Adequacy? I'm no expert, but that was good. Cleve is... not so good, as Met_K points out.

[Jason McCullough]

Outraged at being called out on his ignorance of the "i before e" rule, HermyHermit crafted a stunning defense. "Only the truly witless and pathetic can come up with nothing better than spelling mistakes," he typed, punching the keys dramatically as if to drive the point home. Then he added a fat joke. "Check and mate," he thought to himself. It was only later, reflecting on what he had typed, that he realized his retort meant exactly the opposite of what he intended. More upsettingly, he realized that it was more correct this way.

Last time I heard "check and mate" was on OMM. Erik?

[Cleve Blakemore]

This is one Troll that SHOULD be fed.

Cleve Blakemore holds the Troll banner aloft, and may he hold it proudly!

Did you ever read Adequacy? I'm no expert, but that was good. Cleve is... not so good, as Met_K points out.

Met_K is a semiliterate halfwit who has never posted anything of value to this forum in his entire adult life. I don't think Met_K is competent to judge the merits of a literary maestro like myself.

[Idar Thorvaldsen]

Met_K is a semiliterate halfwit who has never posted anything of value to this forum in his entire adult life. I don't think Met_K is competent to judge the merits of a literary maestro like myself.
I mean, just look at this. He's like a punching bag.

[Mark Asher]

Outraged at being called out on his ignorance of the "i before e" rule, HermyHermit crafted a stunning defense. "Only the truly witless and pathetic can come up with nothing better than spelling mistakes," he typed, punching the keys dramatically as if to drive the point home. Then he added a fat joke. "Check and mate," he thought to himself. It was only later, reflecting on what he had typed, that he realized his retort meant exactly the opposite of what he intended. More upsettingly, he realized that it was more correct this way.

Last time I heard "check and mate" was on OMM. Erik?

I think that's a good fingerprint you lifted there.

[Met_K]

Met_K is a semiliterate halfwit who has never posted anything of value to this forum in his entire adult life. I don't think Met_K is competent to judge the merits of a literary maestro like myself.
I mean, just look at this. He's like a punching bag.

He's just mad because Mensa keeps rejecting his membership.

[Brad Grenz]

Rejected by Mensa? Ouch, they don't have standards!

[DT]

I toss in another vote for Erik as the Narrator. Note the "Wagner James Au" reference...

[Jason Lutes]

Outraged at being called out on his ignorance of the "i before e" rule, HermyHermit crafted a stunning defense. "Only the truly witless and pathetic can come up with nothing better than spelling mistakes," he typed, punching the keys dramatically as if to drive the point home. Then he added a fat joke. "Check and mate," he thought to himself. It was only later, reflecting on what he had typed, that he realized his retort meant exactly the opposite of what he intended. More upsettingly, he realized that it was more correct this way.

Last time I heard "check and mate" was on OMM. Erik?

It certainly could be Erik because Erik is at least that funny, but "Check and mate" was also used in similar context in one or more episodes of The Simpsons (I think by the comic shop guy?). So the print is maybe a little blurry and it may be hard to get a good match when the OMM compound is dusted.

The mystery of The Narrator deepens...

[Matthew Gallant]

The Narrator is obviously intelligent enough to frame a likely suspect. Personally, I find the similarities noted to be pointing away from Erik, if anything.

[Bob Violence]

THAT'S WHAT HE WANTS YOU TO THINK LOL

[DT]

It seems like a pretty subtle frame job to me. Kudos to you Narrator, it seems you've done your homework. Watch out Erik, apparently you're in the crosshairs of a diabolical mind...

[wumpus]

Well, there's The Narrator, and you may remember The Analyst. Anyway, they're all crap compared to the glory days of Johan Freeberg.

[Brian Koontz]

I won't call anyone an idiot who says that Erik is The Narrator... its not a bad thought. But as Exhibit A I present to you that Erik doesn't post much (anymore) on Qt3. This implies that he doesn't cover the board extensively. Although I'm going off the top of my head here, I also don't recall him posting in any forum besides Games (edited, he does post on other forums although not much).

The Narrator is clearly someone who covers the board... who definitely appears to cover all four (now five) of the boards and who reads at least most, if not all, threads.

The likelihood is that The Narrator is someone who has posted (under his main persona) on all boards multiple times, and who is a Qt3 regular. He isn't necessarily a Page 1er, although that is again likely.

Wumpus is the biggest alias user here by far, but unless he's done a great job of keeping an ace up his sleeve he doesn't have the wit or the style of The Narrator.

It seems very strange that DrCrypt would use an alias. Like me, he's a guy with a lot of pride and using an alias feels quite out of character for him. This along with the difference in style between the two personas are the things that limit my "Odds of DrCrypt being The Narrator" to 25%.

I did some research on Erik and its confirmed that its possible that he is The Narrator based on wit and style.

I did posting research on The Narrator, Erik, and DrCrypt. Here are the dates and times for their posts starting now and going back to late on June 24...

The Narrator ...Erik ...DrCrypt
1 2:19A ...1 12:14A ...30 7:55A
30 11:59P ...30 12:49A ...30 7:44A
30 11:53P ...29 4:51P ...29 8:53P
30 8:29P ...27 11:10A ...29 11:11A
30 4:32P ...27 2:02P ...29 10:05A
30 4:15A ...27 11:16A ...28 11:07P
30 3:59A ...26 8:26P ...28 3:03P
30 3:50A ...26 8:18P ...28 12:38P
29 3:04P ...26 8:08P ...28 9:50A
29 2:49P ...26 8:05P ...28 9:38A
29 2:43P ...25 1:53P ...28 9:34A
27 3:50A ...25 12:51P ...28 8:16A
26 12:17P ...24 10:14P ...27 11:13A
26 9:21A ...XXX ...27 8:54A
26 2:49A ...XXX ...27 8:38A
25 10:13P ...XXX ...27 8:17A
25 5:11P ...XXX ...26 4:42P
25 3:59P ...XXX ...26 1:55P
25 11:36A ...XXX ...26 12:14P
25 10:10A ...XXX ...26 12:12P
25 8:19A ...XXX ...26 11:59A
25 7:04A ...XXX ...26 8:50A
25 6:23A ...XXX ...26 8:39A
25 6:10A ...XXX ...26 8:26A
25 5:56A ...XXX ...25 6:21P
25 4:29A ...XXX ...25 5:59P
25 4:20A ...XXX ...25 4:19P
25 4:18A ...XXX ...25 3:48P
25 4:00A ...XXX ...25 1:29P
25 3:52A ...XXX ...25 12:51P
25 3:46A ...XXX ...25 12:09P
25 3:44A ...XXX ...25 9:35A
25 3:36A ...XXX ...25 9:13A
XXX ...XXX ...24 9:08P

This is far from conclusive, but this evidence leans considerably toward Erik. The ONLY day during this period of time when a person didn't make a post was on June 28 when neither The Narrator nor Erik posted.

Also, DrCrypt's posting pattern (even before June 25) leans heavily toward the 7:30A to 10:00A frame. The Narrator goes with the 3:30A to 5:00A segment. Also, while Erik always maintained nearly two hours of space between any of The Narrator's and his posts, DrCrypt had a more natural posting scheme, with a couple posts very close to The Narrator while the rest falling into standard line.

ALSO, Erik has made 13 posts since late June 24 and now, a span of a little over 6 days. In contrast, he made only 17 posts from late June 24 to May 18, a span of 37 days. DrCrypt has had a more balanced quantity of posts.

As a considerable point against Erik being The Narrator, historically Erik posts rarely in the 3:30A to 5:00A slot. These posting patterns do not match up as closely as I would like for the "Erik hypothesis".

Despite this, my new ranking for most likely narrators are Erik followed by DrCrypt.

[bmulligan]

Jeesus Koontz, get a life. If you spent all this time doing leg and arm curls, you could be as big as Cleve right now.

[Jason McCullough]

Can we get Koontz committed or something?

[Tyjenks]

Koontz's work on forum stats is way more nutty than my post count which happens to be a conspicuous outlier. Right? Come on, its gotta be worse! Anyone...anyone.........Narrarator....Narrarator.. ..

[Brian Koontz]

Jeesus Koontz, get a life. If you spent all this time doing leg and arm curls, you could be as big as Cleve right now.

Frankly, I think the 90 minutes I spent writing that post probably matches up quite nicely in quality against 90 minutes worth of posting from most people on this forum. It was time well spent.

Not EVERY thread has to be about me, people... can we stick to the topic of "Who is The Narrator"?

Anyone have any other insights on the matter?

[bmulligan]

Frankly, I think the 90 minutes I spent writing that post probably matches up quite nicely in quality against 90 minutes worth of posting from most people on this forum. It was time well spent.

or...maybe not.

I used the sieve on it and concluded that I don't need to know who the Narrator is, only why he chooses to mock the proceedings.

"And zis is how you come to me, witzout ze why, witzout power."

[Cleve Blakemore]

Jeesus Koontz, get a life. If you spent all this time doing leg and arm curls, you could be as big as Cleve right now.

Cleve's total exercise time each week = 1 1/2 hours, 30 mins three times a week

Total time Cleve actually spends in contraction : 12 minutes each workout

So basically, for 36 minutes of exercise a week, I get better results than people who spend 5 days, 7 hours a week total training and take life threatening amounts of steroids.

Another reason why Arthur Jones is the greatest genius of human physiology who has ever lived.

[MikeOberly]

I originally thought of Erik as The Narrator,too,but after further review the writing is just too cutesy to fit.If it's not Sparky I'll eat Chick's hat.Err,beret.

[Kool Moe Dee]

It feels weird saying it, but I find that bit of "detective work" amusing...remember, kids: Koontz is harmless, Cleve is harmful!

[The Narrator]

Secretly, MikeOberly hoped he was right more than anyone knew. He was a man of honor, and if his hypothesis was proven incorrect, he would indeed make good on his promise to eat Tom Chick's beret, just as he had made good on a previous oath with similar culinary stakes. But he was more certain this time. It was a younger MikeOberly who had predicted that Duke Nukem Forever would be the best game of 2001 and, as a show of faith, had promised to eat his own spacebar if it wasn't.

[Idar Thorvaldsen]

It feels weird saying it, but I find that bit of "detective work" amusing...remember, kids: Koontz is harmless, Cleve is harmful!
If we had the time and the inclination, we'd all be doing it. ;)
Seriuosly. I'm glad someone takes the trouble to do these things, so we don't have to.

Also, I'm leaning towards "more than one person" or "relatively anonymous poster".

[Twosixteen]

Dr. Crypt
Dr. Crypt!
Dr. Crypt!!

[Peter Frazier]

No, not Dr Crypt. The style is too elegant. Dr Crypt is more baroque.

[Met_K]

SiNNER.