View Full Version : NPD's for February 2008 - DS, Wii, PS2, PS3, 360
from GAF
Hardware
Nintendo DS - 587.6K (from 251K)
Wii - 432K (from 274K)
PlayStation 2 - 351.8K (from 264K)
PlayStation 3 - 280.8K (from 269k)
Xbox 360 - 254.6K (from 230K)
Playstation Portable - 243.1K (from 230K)
Top 10 SW
Top-Selling VG Software - February 2008
RELEASE TOTAL U.S. RANK
TITLE PUBLISHER DATE UNITS
360 CALL OF DUTY 4: MODERN WARFARE* ACTIVISION 7-Nov 296.2K 1
360 DEVIL MAY CRY 4* CAPCOM USA 8-Feb 295.2K 2
WII PLAY W/ REMOTE NINTENDO OF AMERICA 7-Feb 289.7K 3
PS3 DEVIL MAY CRY 4* CAPCOM USA 8-Feb 233.5K 4
WII GUITAR HERO III: LEGENDS OF ROCK* ACTIVISION 7-Oct 222.9K 5
NDS MARIO AND SONIC: OLYMPIC GAMES SEGA OF AMERICA 8-Jan 205.6K 6
360 LOST ODYSSEY MICROSOFT 8-Feb 203.6K 7
360 TUROK TOUCHSTONE 8-Jan 197.7K 8
PS2 GUITAR HERO III: LEGENDS OF ROCK* ACTIVISION 7-Oct 183.8K 9
360 ROCK BAND* MTV GAMES/ELECTRONIC ARTS 7-Nov 161.8K 10
copied HW from evav, where they put the numbers in order.
Midnight Son
03-13-2008, 04:46 PM
PS3 outsells 360 again! What was Microditty's excuse? "We are not professionals in this business and can't forecast demand worth shit?"
Gunmetal
03-13-2008, 04:48 PM
The DS is really surprising! Almost 600k sold in basically an off month. Professor Layton and Advance Wars did under 100k each (according to TSE), so what prompted the surge?
Sarkus
03-13-2008, 04:50 PM
PS3 outsells 360 again! What was Microditty's excuse? "We are not professionals in this business and can't forecast demand worth shit?"
I guess. That said, there better be something significant happening that will explain the shortages. It's almost to the point (as Bill points out in his Dubious Quality blog) that they better be prepping a larger hard drive model that will be paired with a price drop to $299. Anything less and they look like fools.
Rock8man
03-13-2008, 04:51 PM
What's up with the uptick in PS2 sales? I wonder if that's because of the price drop that Target had, where they were selling PS2s for $99 for a week?
Midnight Son
03-13-2008, 04:52 PM
I guess. That said, there better be something significant happening that will explain the shortages. It's almost to the point (as Bill points out in his Dubious Quality blog) that they better be prepping a larger hard drive model that will be paired with a price drop to $299. Anything less and they look like fools.
Yup, if they don't they'll lose to PS3 three months in a row and heads should roll. Oh wait, Petah already left the sinking ship.......
Midnight Son
03-13-2008, 04:53 PM
What's up with the uptick in PS2 sales? I wonder if that's because of the price drop that Target had, where they were selling PS2s for $99 for a week?
There's just so many good games for it, you know? Plus, they can't find a Wii and won't pay the PS3 or 360 prices. There better be some price drops next week!
I guess. That said, there better be something significant happening that will explain the shortages. It's almost to the point (as Bill points out in his Dubious Quality blog) that they better be prepping a larger hard drive model that will be paired with a price drop to $299. Anything less and they look like fools.
hopefully, cuz there's no good explanation for the sudden lack of consoles available.
however, the ps3 isn't running away. Even post 40gb model, plus all the games that came out, plus Warner switching at CES, it still couldn't sell more than it did? I thought the 360 was going to be in more trouble.
also interesting to see the DMC4 sales. Sure it sold more on ps3, but its been anticipated as a ps3 only title for years now, following a series that was only on PS, and it apparently had no competition on the system, judging by the top 10. good thing for capcom they ported it.
Moore
03-13-2008, 04:55 PM
The DS is really surprising! Almost 600k sold in basically an off month. Professor Layton and Advance Wars did under 100k each (according to TSE), so what prompted the surge?
fucking anticipation for SHIREN!
Ug, that looks bad for the 360, but I think the software sales are telling the real story. Playstation 3 may be rocketing up after winning the Hi-Def war, but they need to sell games if they want to beat the 360.
Im really interested to see how MGS and Little Big Planet do. So far every PS3 exclusive title has fallen flat (even those that deserved better). If they can start to break into the top 10 software sales then they have something.
Rock8man
03-13-2008, 04:58 PM
It's also good to see that Rock Band continues to sell really well. Just from a revenue perspective, the 360 Rock Band in that list is the top revenue earner. And that doesn't even count the sales the game had on the PS2 and PS3. I continue to hope that Rock Band will have a really long tail and one day outsell the Guitar Hero games despite its higher cost of entry.
jfletch
03-13-2008, 04:59 PM
Ug, that looks bad for the 360, but I think the software sales are telling the real story. Playstation 3 may be rocketing up after winning the Hi-Def war, but they need to sell games if they want to beat the 360.
Im really interested to see how MGS and Little Big Planet do. So far every PS3 exclusive title has fallen flat (even those that deserved better). If they can start to break into the top 10 software sales then they have something.
Those DMC4 numbers have to be pretty encouraging, considering the PS3's smaller installed base. Whether it means that it is a game that got PS3 owners excited, or it is a game which proves PS2 owners are starting to migrate, or whatever, it has to be good news for 3rd party developers.
Those DMC4 numbers have to be pretty encouraging, considering the PS3's smaller installed base. Whether it means that it is a game that got PS3 owners excited, or it is a game which proves PS2 owners are starting to migrate, or whatever, it has to be good news for 3rd party developers.
how do you figure? it didn't really do that well on ps3, and NO other ps3 games made the top 10? imagine if it had been left a ps3 exclusive, it would be a disaster. uncharted, Unreal Tournament, Ratchet & clank did what last month?
also (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10192893&postcount=558): Again, for those too lazy to read my initial post
Industry Software Sales
$667.8M an increase of 47% over last years then record $454M. That's over $200M in additional software sales. These are numbers that are higher than ANY NON-November/December in the history of the industry. AND THIS IS FEBRARY. Imagine what next month with Super Smash Bros and April with GTA 4!! Recession??? Not here
Industry Hardware Sales
$481M, an increase of 20% over last years then record of $402M. Again, this is beyond historic. These are the highest HW Sales in the history of the industry outside of November and December (with the exception of September 2007 - Halo 3 month).
Gunmetal
03-13-2008, 05:03 PM
also interesting to see the DMC4 sales. Sure it sold more on ps3, but its been anticipated as a ps3 only title for years now, following a series that was only on PS, and it apparently had no competition on the system, judging by the top 10. good thing for capcom they ported it.
Worldwide it's supposedly selling better on the PS3, either way, yeah, it's a good thing for Capcom that they ported it. I'm interested to see how Lost Planet will do on the PS3, but I don't think it'll do very well considering how much worse it looks than the 360.
I wish they'd release the per-platform sales figures so I could see if the DMC4 sales were indicative of PS3 owners actually starting to buy the games they have available.
Steel_Wind
03-13-2008, 05:19 PM
What's up with the uptick in PS2 sales? I wonder if that's because of the price drop that Target had, where they were selling PS2s for $99 for a week?
It's a great Guitar Hero platform. Especially if you can't find a Wii and can't afford a 360 or PS3.
Steel_Wind
03-13-2008, 05:24 PM
The DS is really surprising! Almost 600k sold in basically an off month. Professor Layton and Advance Wars did under 100k each (according to TSE), so what prompted the surge?
That's pent up demand in part. There were serious shortages in January and into early Feb with the DS. Sold out all over the damn place here in Toronto.
On tracking software to machine, I hate to say it, but the only thing in gaming harder to find that a Wii or a DS is an R4DS. This will prove to be a growing issue as time wears on. Not saying there is a correlation on virgin sales (and not to that extent either) but... worth keeping an eye on.
Still - got to agree. The DS rocks.
steve
03-13-2008, 05:24 PM
The DS is really surprising! Almost 600k sold in basically an off month. Professor Layton and Advance Wars did under 100k each (according to TSE), so what prompted the surge?
New color.
Charles
03-13-2008, 05:37 PM
from GAF
Hardware
PlayStation 3 - 280.8K (from 269k)
Xbox 360 - 254.6K (from 230K)
At this rate, the PS3 will catch up to the 360 in: 257 Months!
Kevin Grey
03-13-2008, 05:59 PM
how do you figure? it didn't really do that well on ps3, and NO other ps3 games made the top 10? imagine if it had been left a ps3 exclusive, it would be a disaster. uncharted, Unreal Tournament, Ratchet & clank did what last month?
It did well for the franchise. DMC4's PS3 number are only off of DMC3's PS2 debut by about 15k which ain't bad considering the dramatic difference in PS2 install base in March 2005 and PS3 install base. Had there been no 360 SKU I think it's safe to say that it's first month sales on PS3 would have beat DMC3's.
It's another case where people think "loud, diehard online fanbase = monster sales" but the series has never really been big with the mainstream.
The Bitter Cynic
03-13-2008, 06:03 PM
DS outsold everything, that's pretty impressive.
PS2 outsold the PS3, wonder what sony thinks of that.
I really should pick up a 360.
forgeforsaken
03-13-2008, 06:21 PM
also interesting to see the DMC4 sales. Sure it sold more on ps3, but its been anticipated as a ps3 only title for years now, following a series that was only on PS, and it apparently had no competition on the system, judging by the top 10. good thing for capcom they ported it.
Umm, look again. 360 DMC4 outsold PS3 DMC4 by 60k.
Umm, look again. 360 DMC4 outsold PS3 DMC4 by 60k.
opposites day.
Shadari
03-13-2008, 06:25 PM
Consoles are almost as doomed as PCs.
I for one welcome our handheld overlords and bow before them with infinite respect and ever lasting loyalty.
ducker
03-13-2008, 06:31 PM
wow, that is odd... more units sold for every piece of hardware across the board.
wow, that is odd... more units sold for every piece of hardware across the board.
the holiday spillover is crazy this year.
Its kids getting their tax rebates back.
And here's the spin zone (http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/03/spin-art-micros.html).
-Julian
Jason Cross
03-13-2008, 07:13 PM
I guess. That said, there better be something significant happening that will explain the shortages. It's almost to the point (as Bill points out in his Dubious Quality blog) that they better be prepping a larger hard drive model that will be paired with a price drop to $299. Anything less and they look like fools.
I guess as much like fools as when Nintendo was supply-constrained on the Wii for months on end. (shrug)
They stockpiled for Xmas but figured there would be enough left over, and had (by anyone's estimate) a very good holiday season, as well as a holiday season that (thanks to Halo 3's launch date) started early and hindered ability to build up consoles. So they had two months of short supply.
It would be one thing if they said the short supply would be over by now, but they didn't. They said expect it to affect Jan and Feb numbers and some of March too. It's a slip up that they can't keep up with demand, but let's not go apeshit like they were only able to field 100k consoles or something.
The real test is GTA4. Once that sucker comes out, they need to have loads of consoles ready to go. If people can't find a 360 to get once GTA4 comes out, the sale goes to PS3, and it REALLY looks like a major fuckup instead of a burp in the supply chain. And man, especially with dropping the price in Europe - that's going to increase demand of course.
Bahimiron
03-13-2008, 07:46 PM
Petah already left the sinking ship.......
Five titles in the top ten for software.
Yeah. You better call Nero, cos Rome appears to be burning.
Grifman
03-13-2008, 08:26 PM
PS3 outsells 360 again! What was Microditty's excuse? "We are not professionals in this business and can't forecast demand worth shit?"
Shouldn't it be outselling the 360 by now, and by a lot larger margin? The 360's been out a lot longer by now.
Tom McNamara
03-13-2008, 10:47 PM
It looks like Nintendo is going to be the one with the dominant console install base this generation. Who would have thunk. They can do nothing but bounce their established franchises between the Wii and DS, and still rake in a gojillion dollars. And the kicker is that they practically just overclocked the GameCube. Something to be said for its low price point and a few friendly games to get people started.
intruder
03-14-2008, 02:03 AM
The DS is really surprising! Almost 600k sold in basically an off month. Professor Layton and Advance Wars did under 100k each (according to TSE), so what prompted the surge?
New batch of RS4 chips arrived from Asia I guess.
Midnight Son
03-14-2008, 02:43 AM
Five titles in the top ten for software.
Yeah. You better call Nero, cos Rome appears to be burning.
Gee, don't be such a fanboi!
Jazar
03-14-2008, 06:05 AM
Oh look a mini-NeoGaf thread.
At this rate, the PS3 will catch up to the 360 in: 257 Months!
I think the important thing is that the PS3 isn't going anywhere and it would be prudent for any 3rd party dev studio to make a multiplatform game.
unbongwah
03-14-2008, 06:46 AM
PS3 outsells 360 again!
Considering the PS2 managed to outsell both of them, I'm not sure how much of an accomplishment that is. :-/
Bahimiron
03-14-2008, 06:56 AM
I like QT3 cos it's an adult community where people are unswayed by their little biases.
Charles
03-14-2008, 06:56 AM
Oh look a mini-NeoGaf thread.
I think the important thing is that the PS3 isn't going anywhere and it would be prudent for any 3rd party dev studio to make a multiplatform game.
That has been true since the start of the generation.
Also worth noting is that relative to the amount of consoles available, games are selling more on the PS3. Which implies that if sony ever *could* move serious unit numbers, they'd have a lot more success on their hands due to greater attach rates.
However, it's also possible that the high attach rates are due directly to the few games available, and that success would also water this down.
forgeforsaken
03-14-2008, 07:07 AM
I thought 360 still had the highest attach rate by far at something crazy like 7.5 or something.
Moore
03-14-2008, 07:27 AM
Yeah, me too. And for some reason analysts kept saying it was bad for the 360 to have a huge attach rate.
I mean, fuck I have like 50 360 games or some shit, and I dont even have, like, a lot of money or anything. Condemned 2 just filled my dvd case. and left me wondering what to do about it (but a another one or buy a bigger one and move them over) and I have a huge amount of XBLA stuff too.
Kevin Grey
03-14-2008, 07:34 AM
I thought 360 still had the highest attach rate by far at something crazy like 7.5 or something.
I think Charles is referring to individual titles- for example, I think both CoD4 and AC have sold to a higher percentage of PS3 owners than 360 owners and certainly DMC4 is selling much better on PS3 with respect to install base.
Jazar
03-14-2008, 07:50 AM
That has been true since the start of the generation.
I dunno last summer when PS3 was hitting less then 100k a month things were looking very grim. I think that the 360 will easily maintain it's software attach rate throughout this console cycle. Having PS3 as an excellent Blu-ray player is great for hardware sales but it will be at a cost: the game software attach rate. I friend of mine got his mother buy a PS3 solely as a blu-ray player since it is future proof and at a relatively cheap price.
I dunno last summer when PS3 was hitting less then 100k a month things were looking very grim. I think that the 360 will easily maintain it's software attach rate throughout this console cycle. Having PS3 as an excellent Blu-ray player is great for hardware sales but it will be at a cost: the game software attach rate. I friend of mine got his mother buy a PS3 solely as a blu-ray player since it is future proof and at a relatively cheap price.
? It'll be "future proof" in a year at an even cheaper price, and next month with a usable controller packed in. If she absolutely has to have high school musical on blu-ray right now, I get it, but otherwise it makes no sense.
Charles
03-14-2008, 07:58 AM
I think Charles is referring to individual titles- for example, I think both CoD4 and AC have sold to a higher percentage of PS3 owners than 360 owners and certainly DMC4 is selling much better on PS3 with respect to install base.
Yes, exactly.
I dunno last summer when PS3 was hitting less then 100k a month things were looking very grim.
And last summer, many devs were already halfway through working on PS3 versions of their multiplatform games, meaning the decisions had already been made long before.
forgeforsaken
03-14-2008, 08:10 AM
I think Charles is referring to individual titles- for example, I think both CoD4 and AC have sold to a higher percentage of PS3 owners than 360 owners and certainly DMC4 is selling much better on PS3 with respect to install base.
DMC4 sure, but CoD4? Do we have life to date sales on that? The 360 version is still the top selling game overall while the PS3 version isn't even placing in the top 10.
Charles
03-14-2008, 08:13 AM
DMC4 sure, but CoD4? Do we have life to date sales on that? The 360 version is still the top selling game overall while the PS3 version isn't even placing in the top 10.
I don't know about CoD4, but it was also true for AC.
edit: Wasn't true for CoD4. Seems to be 3:1 in favor of the 360, but that's not surprising, as FPS games are the bread and butter of the MS market, and not very big a deal on the sony side.
FWIW, in Germany the PS3 version of CoD4 outsold the Xbox 360 one. (PC version did better than both console versions combined.) Same for Assassin's Creed.
-Julian
intruder
03-14-2008, 09:48 AM
FWIW, in Germany the PS3 version of CoD4 outsold the Xbox 360 one. (PC version did better than both console versions combined.) Same for Assassin's Creed.
-Julian
But PC gaming is d0med!
Not sure AC will outsell them on the PC since there was a lot of negative press concerning system requirements. We will wait and see.
Kevin Grey
03-14-2008, 10:18 AM
DMC4 sure, but CoD4? Do we have life to date sales on that? The 360 version is still the top selling game overall while the PS3 version isn't even placing in the top 10.
MS stated in their NPD press release that CoD4 360 outsold it's PS3 counterpart 2:1 (so presumably sales of the PS3 SKU would be about 150k for February).
Mark Asher
03-14-2008, 11:33 AM
At this rate, the PS3 will catch up to the 360 in: 257 Months!
What about worldwide figures? How soon there?
Mark Asher
03-14-2008, 11:36 AM
It looks like Nintendo is going to be the one with the dominant console install base this generation. Who would have thunk. They can do nothing but bounce their established franchises between the Wii and DS, and still rake in a gojillion dollars. And the kicker is that they practically just overclocked the GameCube. Something to be said for its low price point and a few friendly games to get people started.
It wasn't the low price point because the Gamecube had that and fell flat. It's the new controllers. They are sexy at first glance.
Charles
03-14-2008, 11:40 AM
What about worldwide figures? How soon there?
I dunno. Double the figures, half the numbers.
Tom McNamara
03-14-2008, 01:34 PM
It wasn't the low price point because the Gamecube had that and fell flat. It's the new controllers. They are sexy at first glance.
Well, like I said, I don't think it was solely the low price point, I just think there's something to be said for it :) And there's the very accessible games they had at launch -- party-type games that made people say, "Hey, this thing is fun, I should get one too! How much is it? Really? That doesn't sound too bad." And the unit doesn't look like a typical gaming console. You can kind of hide it amidst your "respectable" entertainment devices.
Then there's the virtual console, and hardware-based back compat for extra gravy (granted that a given console gamer is statistically unlikely to have a bunch of GameCube titles in his or her library).
It wasn't the low price point because the Gamecube had that and fell flat. It's the new controllers. They are sexy at first glance.
compared to its competition? how much did the gamecube cost at launch compared to the xbox and ps2 at the time? I don't remember, but I'd bet it never cost less than half as much as the ps2.
Draikin
03-15-2008, 01:58 AM
It sold well during 6 months at 300$ vs 200$ and quickly died at 200$ vs 150$
Charles: AC was released against Mass Effect, DMC4 was released against Lost Odyssey and Ninja Gaiden 2 is coming soon. Unlike Sony, Microsoft first party games are providing competition to third party publishers.
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