NFL playoffs Divisional weekend

[Shmtur]

Seattle at Green Bay
Jacksonville at New England
San Diego at Indianapolis
N.Y. Giants at Dallas

[Talisker]

Seattle at Green Bay
Jacksonville at New England
San Diego at Indianapolis
N.Y. Giants at Dallas

[Bill Dungsroman]

Seattle at Green Bay "We're gettin' the ball and we're gonna score!"
Jacksonville at New England
San Diego at Indianapolis
N.Y. Giants at Dallas

[Cronox]

Seattle at Green Bay
Jacksonville at New England
San Diego at Indianapolis
N.Y. Giants at Dallas

[BaconTastesGood]

Seattle at Green Bay
Jacksonville at New England - YEAH, YOU READ RIGHT
San Diego at Indianapolis - It will be funny as shit if Norv takes this team all the way to the SB. I would so cry for Marty.
N.Y. Giants at Dallas - I hate both teams, but even though Dallas is the better team, when NYG are on, they are ON, and when Dallas is off, they're pretty off. And the Giants are more on right now, and Dallas seems to be a bit off. So call it a mild upset.

[Shmtur]

Seattle at Green Bay
Jacksonville at New England
San Diego at Indianapolis
N.Y. Giants at Dallas

[sluggo]

Seattle at Green Bay - I think this is the toss-up game of the weekend. I have no faith in Seattle, but I think GB's record was a bit of a mirage this year. Maybe GB runs away with it, but I think a FG game in the 4th is more likely.
Jacksonville at New England - I'm rooting for Jax, but they're going to shut down the run and dare Girrard to beat them throwing. And he's not beating Brady in an air duel.
San Diego at Indianapolis - I think Indy's been gearing up for this playoff run and a rematch with the Pats since November. SD was completely unimpressive today and I don't see them going any further.
N.Y. Giants at Dallas - If the Giants were playing Green Bay, I'd give them a shot, but I think Dallas has their number this year. They've been pretty entertaining games, however; I hope the Giants hang in and make it interesting.

[delirium]

Seattle at Green Bay
Jacksonville at New England
San Diego at Indianapolis
N.Y. Giants at Dallas

[Sarkus]

Seattle at Green Bay

Outside of Favre, the Packers are untested as a playoff team and young teams often stumble in their first few tries (see San Diego last year). That's really Seattle's only chance here.

Jacksonville at New England

I'm not going to say Jacksonville has no chance, but I'm not picking against New England yet.

San Diego at Indianapolis

The Chargers have the talent to beat anyone but they haven't put it together yet.

N.Y. Giants at Dallas

This is the one game I may come back and change later in the week. Dallas is beatable, especially if T.O. is not at full strength. They are also, like GB, a team without a lot of playoff experience and as noted above such teams stumble fairly often. Next, New York is 8-1 on the road this year (though their one road loss was at Dallas week one.) Finally, the odds say New York has a good chance because of the three wins in a season against the same team statistics. If I heard the stat correctly today, the 3-0 sweep has only been accomplished 11/54 times since 1970.

Historically speaking, we can probably expect to see at least one road team winning.

[caesarbear]

Seattle at Green Bay
Jacksonville at New England
San Diego at Indianapolis
N.Y. Giants at Dallas
Giants clearly have momentum and Dallas none, but in the shoot out that this game will likely be, the Cowboys ought to prevail.

[Not One Of Us]

Seattle at Green Bay - GO PACK GO!
Jacksonville at New England - DIE PATS DIE!
San Diego at Indianapolis - Colts.
N.Y. Giants at Dallas - Dallas goes out, Green Bay gets home-field twice.

[Elton]

Seattle at Green Bay
Jacksonville at New England
San Diego at Indianapolis
N.Y. Giants at Dallas

[balut]

Seattle at Green Bay
Jacksonville at New England
San Diego at Indianapolis
N.Y. Giants at Dallas

[Ryan A]

Seattle at Green Bay the Seahawks are going to take the ball and they're going to score
Jacksonville at New England and somehow Bellichick is going to get a concussion during the game
San Diego at Indianapolis laser rocket arm
N.Y. Giants at Dallas I have no idea how this will happen, but it's the only way for the Seahawks to have another home game this year.

[Troy S Goodfellow]

Seattle at Green Bay
Jacksonville at New England
San Diego at Indianapolis
N.Y. Giants at Dallas

Troy

[Robert Sharp]

Seattle at Green Bay
Jacksonville at New England
San Diego at Indianapolis
N.Y. Giants at Dallas

[SolomonGrundy]

Seattle at Green Bay-Upset special And Farve ...enough already
Jacksonville at New England-I wanted to beat up on Pitt again,Oh well.I do see a good game here, but Jax secondary is just not going to keep up with the Pats attack. If the Pats can pin the running attack this will be a blowout.
San Diego at Indianapolis-The more I hear LT, the less I can root for him.
N.Y. Giants at Dallas-The Giants are on a roll. They are playing really good football right now, and Dallas has been looking meh.

[Juan Rayo]

Seattle at Green Bay
Jacksonville at New England
San Diego at Indianapolis
N.Y. Giants at Dallas (please oh please oh please)

[Mark Crump]

Seattle at Green Bay
Jacksonville at New England
San Diego at Indianapolis
N.Y. Giants at Dallas

[BennyProfane]

Seattle at Green Bay--this will be a tight game, but home field advantage is as strong in GB as anywhere in the country, especially in January (gametime temperature around 26, according to the weather site I checked).
Jacksonville at New England--another tight game, as Jacksonville is probably playing as well as anyone in the league atm....except for New England.
San Diego at Indianapolis--my upset special. Tomlinson over and over and over and over....plus I consider Peyton Manning the most overrated QB since, hmm, well, a long time. I was going to say "since Vinnie Testaverte", but wtf, that was only a couple of weeks ago!
N.Y. Giants at Dallas. Squish.

[Rimbo]

Having to enter information manually is forcing me to clean up my code somewhat.

...and learn about Python's variable scoping rules.

Seattle at Green Bay
Jacksonville at New England
San Diego at Indianapolis
N.Y. Giants at Dallas

^--No big surprise here.

Details (http://rimbosity.com/scores.html)... refresh browser if you still see the wild card games. (Title still says "Week 18." Ignore it.) caesarbear's wonderful "killer rimbot" image makes an appearance, too...

[jeffd]

Seattle at Green Bay: Obligatory homer pick. Plus it's only Monday and I'm already tired of "we're gonna take the ball and we're going to score" crap.
Jacksonville at New England
San Diego at Indianapolis: Laser. Rocket. Arm.
N.Y. Giants at Dallas: Giants are on a roll, but I have a feeling it's coming to an end.

[sluggo]

current count of upset predictions (out of 21) --
Seattle (3)
Jacksonville (3)
San Diego (1)
NY Giants (9)

[Shmtur]

I find it fascinating that more people are picking New England to lose than are picking Indy to lose.

But then, the Chargers are probably playing without Antonio Gates, and there's the Norv Turner factor.

It's going to be a good weekend.

[Not One Of Us]

I find it fascinating that more people are picking New England to lose than are picking Indy to lose.
Because more people hate the Patriots than the Colts.

Duh.

[BennyProfane]

Just an FYI: I read this morning that Football Outsiders (take it for what it is worth) rank the AFC right now as: Patriots, Jaguars, Chargers, Colts. And rank all four of those ahead of any of the four NFC teams.

(edited because my typing suxor today)

[Balasarius]

The Superbowl is rarely a good game.

[Matt Bowyer]

Seattle at Green Bay
Jacksonville at New England
San Diego at Indianapolis
N.Y. Giants at Dallas

Man, that Jacksonville game... I'm afraid to pick either team. I'm going with New England, but will not be surprised either way.

No upsets! I can't pick the Giants because Eli Manning will be Eli Manning sooner or later, and he'll think Plaxico is 17 feet tall. I can't pick Jacksonville because I picked against New England so much during the season and was routinely wrong, plus Belichick will scheme and stop Taylor and MJD. I can't pick San Diego over Indianapolis because Gates is likely out (or at least half-speed) and Manning has all his weapons back, and even if Harrison is a non-factor Manning hasn't really needed him this year. I can't pick Seattle because they're playing a team that actually has an offensive line, and Shaun Alexander is old and busted.

I think all four games have a chance to be really good, though. This should be a good week to watch.

[Matt Perkins]

Seattle at Green Bay
Jacksonville at New England
San Diego at Indianapolis
N.Y. Giants at Dallas

Jacksonville is on fire. I think they have a pretty good shot at downing the 16-0 champs.

[Crispus]

Seattle at Green Bay - I'm sure there will be at least one upset this weekend...my gut says it'll be this game.
Jacksonville at New England
San Diego at Indianapolis
N.Y. Giants at Dallas

[Greedo]

Seattle at Green Bay
Jacksonville at New England
San Diego at Indianapolis
N.Y. Giants at Dallas

[Squirrel Killer]

Seattle at Green Bay
Jacksonville at New England
San Diego at Indianapolis
N.Y. Giants at Dallas

[Alan Dunkin]

Seattle at Green Bay
Jacksonville at New England
San Diego at Indianapolis
N.Y. Giants at Dallas

--- Alan

[Bill Dungsroman]

The Superbowl is rarely a good game.
That used to be true, but in the last 10 years, more Superbowls have been pretty good than not.

[Talisker]

Grant is the Seahawk's greatest weapon.

[Sarkus]

Grant is the Seahawk's greatest weapon.

Not anymore.

Ugh. Seattle's probably done, since they don't have a chance if their defense isn't on. They're not and the weather conditions aren't helping.

[Bill Dungsroman]

Grant is the Seahawk's greatest weapon.
I love it when you guys post stuff during games. It always turns out great in posterity.

[nixon66]

Wow, Seattle didn't have anything at all, beyond those two early turnovers. I think Sean Alexander's day is done, and Seattle really needs to take a good look at their offensive line for Maurice Morris next year.

[Raife]

I love it when you guys post stuff during games. It always turns out great in posterity.

Heh, no kidding. Also, this:

http://www.morsa.net/packattack.jpg

[Talisker]

Hey, I hold to my statement -- Grant's fumbles were directly responsible for 14 of Seattle's 20 points :)

[Sarkus]

Wow, Seattle didn't have anything at all, beyond those two early turnovers. I think Sean Alexander's day is done, and Seattle really needs to take a good look at their offensive line for Maurice Morris next year.

Those two are related and it's hard to say which is more important, though I tend to incline toward the line being the bigger problem.

That was a horrible way for Seattle to end the season. A close loss would mean that just a few tweaks are needed to compete for the conference next year, while this kind of blowout makes you question if it's time for a bigger overhaul.

[Raife]

Seattle at Green Bay-Upset special And Farve ...enough already

http://www.morsa.net/favre.jpg

[mystery]

Everyone else sucks, Wisconsin rules. News at 11.

[Raife]

That's great, kid. Don't get cocky.

[Bill Dungsroman]

Hey, I hold to my statement -- Grant's fumbles were directly responsible for 14 of Seattle's 20 points :)
It's not much of a weapon when it hits you for as much damage as it does your enemy (more even).

[Talisker]

Pats/Jags has been a great game so far -- no idea how this one's gonna come out.

[Sarkus]

I have a feeling the Jags failure to get a TD, settling for a FG, may end up being what we look back on as the key point in the game. Now they're 10 points down and it's hard to imagine them pulling off a comeback.

[Alan Dunkin]

Gah, Jags.

--- Alan

[Rimbo]

Pats/Jags has been a great game so far -- no idea how this one's gonna come out.

Rimbot: 34-22
Actual: 31-20

boo-ya

[Hanacker]

I have a feeling the Jags failure to get a TD, settling for a FG, may end up being what we look back on as the key point in the game. Now they're 10 points down and it's hard to imagine them pulling off a comeback.

No, the key point in the game was them only being able to stop the Pats once, and that was due to a short missed field goal.

[VegasRobb]

My favorite part about Saturday's games was when Favre was throwing snowballs. He throws snowballs with the exact same motion he uses to pass the ball. Don't think I'd want to be on the receiving end of one of those.

[caesarbear]

That was an excellent game. Sorry to see the Jags go out. Hope they win their division next year.

[Shadarr]

Just an FYI: I read this morning that Football Outsiders (take it for what it is worth) rank the AFC right now as: Patriots, Jaguars, Chargers, Colts. And rank all four of those ahead of any of the four NFC teams.
The Colts are getting no respect this year considering they're the defending champs and they came within a handful of plays of beating both the Chargers and Patriots. Not to mention that even with Peyton having his worst game in a long time, it still came down to a Vinatieri miss. I don't think the Chargers have much of a chance against a team that good without Gates.

I do agree about the NFC, though. The Cowboys and Packers are head and shoulders above the rest of the conference, but they're about even with the Titans and Steelers. There's a whole 'nother level above them. It's kinda funny to think that if the Jags were in the NFC (especially the NFC West) they'd probably be 15-1 or 14-2 with home field and an easy ride to the Super Bowl. Instead they're a wildcard team and get knocked out in the second round.

[BaconTastesGood]

The Colts are getting no respect this year considering they're the defending champs and they came within a handful of plays of beating both the Chargers and Patriots.

Not only that, but they've been ravaged by injuries through much of the season, losing key players like their (rookie) left tackle, Gonzalez, Harrison, Freeney, and Clark. It's been pure hell for them in terms of injuries, whereas the Pats (AFAIK) have been incredibly fortunate on that front, missing I think Seymour for the first part of the year and...that's it?

To top it off the Colts have the #1 defense (points allowed) in the league. But everyone just thinks they're going to get pushed over.

[Talisker]

Rimbot: 34-22
Actual: 31-20

boo-ya
How'd it do on the Packers/Seahawks score? :)

[Rimbo]

To top it off the Colts have the #1 defense (points allowed) in the league. But everyone just thinks they're going to get pushed over.

The Colts' defense also looks phenomenal in terms of the factor it allows vs. what its opponents typically score in a game, holding teams to 77% of their usual output. They're also remarkably consistent in that regard, with a std. dev. of only ±26% (which is much lower than average). These have a pretty big hand in the expected outcome being Indy by 4 points.

[Rimbo]

How'd it do on the Packers/Seahawks score? :)

The actual was within 1 point of the Seahawks' expected score... but yeah, GB offense (and SEA defense) did a lot better (and worse) than what you'd expect from their average. Snow @ Lambeau FTmf'inW.

Edit: Snow is the Packers' Twelfth Man.

[caesarbear]

...whereas the Pats (AFAIK) have been incredibly fortunate on that front, missing I think Seymour for the first part of the year and...that's it?
Sammy Morris out for year, Rosy Colvin out for year, Chad Scott out for year, and some other injuries. It's probably now a wash with Harrison back.

But everyone just thinks they're going to get pushed over.
Who's this everyone?

[Shadarr]

I loved the comment by either Moose or Siragusa that the twelfth man at Lambeau is an actual twelfth man (after they got penalized).

[Alan Dunkin]

I do agree about the NFC, though. The Cowboys and Packers are head and shoulders above the rest of the conference, but they're about even with the Titans and Steelers. There's a whole 'nother level above them. It's kinda funny to think that if the Jags were in the NFC (especially the NFC West) they'd probably be 15-1 or 14-2 with home field and an easy ride to the Super Bowl. Instead they're a wildcard team and get knocked out in the second round.

That's a joke, right? The Cowboys are way better than the Titans and probably have more than an even chance of beating the Jags or the Stealers. And a worse Cowboys team beat the Indianapolis superbowl champs last year.

--- Alan

[Bill Dungsroman]

To top it off the Colts have the #1 defense (points allowed) in the league. But everyone just thinks they're going to get pushed over.
What?

[Shmtur]

I do agree about the NFC, though. The Cowboys and Packers are head and shoulders above the rest of the conference, but they're about even with the Titans and Steelers. There's a whole 'nother level above them.

Green Bay beat San Diego this year.

[BaconTastesGood]

What?

I guess that right now every analyst I see on TV basically ignores the Colts, they talk about how they played so poorly against the Chargers, how injury ridden they are, and also talk up the Jags like the Jags are the expected SB dark horse.

Basically this post-season I've only heard about the Jags or Pats going all the way, the Colts and Chargers are kind of an afterthought. Sort of like the equivalent in the NFC with Green Bay and Dallas, with the exception that the Colts are actually kinda good.

[Robert Sharp]

I think the Colts are the best team after the Pats. The AFC championship game should be awesome. The Colts are the most underrated team in the NFL right now, though they do get credit.

Still, I disagree with those saying the Cowboys and Packers aren't as good as they seem. They are that good. They can't help that they've played basically no one. That's a product of being NFC teams. I do think the Colts and Pats are better than both NFC powers, but not by as much as suggested above. The SB should be a good game this year.

[Rimbo]

This SB will be about as good as last night's Jac/NE game. Maybe some hope for a while, then the Patriots blow them away.

The number that stands out to me is 1.830: The Patriots score nearly double what opposing defenses allow. In terms of points scored per game, that's just over 5 TD's. It's just obscene.

By comparison, of this weekend's remaining teams, second place is Dallas, at 1.373 -- a comparably paltry 4 TD's per game.

The Patriots' offense has been essentially unstoppable, and they've been that way all season long. Their defense isn't exactly swiss cheese, either; the only two teams with a better defense (based on the factor of points allowed vs. opponents' average scored) are playing each other today -- Indy and SD.

In the end, old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill.

[forgeforsaken]

Ok, did anyone actually see the hold on that Chargers touchdown that was called back?

[Talisker]

Ok, did anyone actually see the hold on that Chargers touchdown that was called back?
Even though I'm rooting for the Colts in this one, the Chargers got robbed.

[Rimbo]

Laser Rocket Arm, meet Lightning Bolt Helmet

Edit: But it only serves to delay the inevitable.

[Bill Dungsroman]

Ok, did anyone actually see the hold on that Chargers touchdown that was called back?
Yes. Weddle clearly tackled Addai.

[Rimbo]

And then 5'6" Darren Sproles shows how he terrorized the Big XII.

[Sarkus]

This Chargers/Colts game is a hell of a game. Rivers seems like he's growing up in this game. Too bad they are knocking each other off with these injuries; neither is going to be really healthy for New England.

[Rimbo]

This Chargers/Colts game is a hell of a game. Rivers seems like he's growing up in this game. Too bad they are knocking each other off with these injuries; neither is going to be really healthy for New England.

No kidding, man. Now Volek's in.

[Rimbo]

holy fucking shit

the chargers might actually win

player of the game? stephen cooper... 15 tackles, 1 assist. wow!!!

[Sarkus]

I love how the Chargers have grown up this year. They have all the talent and now they are going to the AFC title game. If they were healthy I might actually pick them to win.

So much for the Superbowl being the AFC title game. The chances of that game being good just went down several notches.

[BennyProfane]

Where in the world is San Diego?

Answer: in the AFC Championship!

[Sarkus]

Where in the world is San Diego?

Answer: in the AFC Championship!

BTW, congrats for being the only one to pick the Chargers. We all bow before you.

:-)

[caesarbear]

holy shit. didn't expect that. Guess I ain't so great at figuring these teams out.

[Robert Sharp]

That was a fantastic game, actually. The bright side is that the Titans are now vindicated a bit. They shut the Chargers offense down better than the Colts, and if we had had half the offense of the Colts, we could have won. The downside is that I think the Patriots will now beat the Chargers and be in the SB. The Colts match up with them better, IMO. That's not to say the Chargers can't win, but they aren't healthy now and I'm not sure they would beat the Pats if they were.

[Bill Dungsroman]

That was a fantastic game, actually. The bright side is that the Titans are now vindicated a bit. They shut the Chargers offense down better than the Colts, and if we had had half the offense of the Colts, we could have won.
God, Robert. You've turned into as bad a homer as Ryan A.

[Rimbo]

God, Robert. You've turned into as bad a homer as Ryan A.

You say that like it's a BAD thing.

[Sarkus]

They shut the Chargers offense down better than the Colts, and if we had had half the offense of the Colts, we could have won.

That's a gigantic "if" you've got there. Might as well throw in "if TO played for us" and "if Young was playing at a pro bowl level."

I like the Titans and they do have a very good defense, but their offense is nowhere near being able to win a playoff game.

[Sarkus]

Let the Romo bashing begin. :-)

Seriously, though, Dallas just looked not quite comfortable, which is not surprising considering their lack of playoff experience. I think that finally showed up in this game. Plus, despite the announcers fawning all over TO, it didn't look to me like his impact was that great. The Giants single covered him most of the way and he didn't exactly managed to get open as much as usual.

So now it's Giants at Packers. Should be very interesting.

[Raife]

No kidding, 18/36.

[mono]

Yay! Go NYG!

[theKevin]

So, the Giants are going to play my Green Bay Packers.

I'm happy we're not playing at Dallas (considering their bad luck/bad play in Texas Stadium), but, the Giants have been on quite a roll lately. Hopefully we can get some Spirit of Lombardi shit going in Titletown.

[Lorini]

When the going gets tough, Dallas teams just STEP BACK. Mavericks, best team in the NBA, can't get out of the first round. Cowboys, best team in the NFC, can't get out of the first round.

Tells you somethin' about the wonderful state of Texas, eh?

[Rimbo]

My brother was rooting for the Gnats because he believes that it means that GB now has a better chance of winning the NFC.

He may be right, but I just couldn't stop hoping that the Manning brothers would go 0-fer-2 today.

[balut]

You know anything can happen in the NFL when Eli's season lasts longer than Peyton's.

[Alan Dunkin]

When the going gets tough, Dallas teams just STEP BACK. Mavericks, best team in the NBA, can't get out of the first round. Cowboys, best team in the NFC, can't get out of the first round.

Tells you somethin' about the wonderful state of Texas, eh?

Yes, it's not California :p

Actually it's been worse, stretching from '06 with the Mavs losing the finals, go to: Cowboys 06 first round lost, Mavs first round lost, Stars first round lost, FC Dallas first round lost, then back to the Cowboys 07 first round lost. And the Rangers haven't been out of the first round of the playoffs ever.

God that second half of the Cowboys game was awful. Stupid penalties, dropped balls, and Romo's inability to throw away the ball out of the pocket (apparently he's a lot better at throwing away the ball in the pocket and getting penalized for it) really nailed this game to the wall. Throw in an ineffective offensive line in the fourth quarter and the 2-minute offense at the very end and you have a crappy result.

--- Alan

[BennyProfane]

My brother was rooting for the Gnats because he believes that it means that GB now has a better chance of winning the NFC.

He may be right, but I just couldn't stop hoping that the Manning brothers would go 0-fer-2 today.

I agree. I picked Dallas in the pool--because objectively I consider them the better team--but I was cheering for the Giants all the way, because I think that gives GB a much better shot at the Super Bowl. Anyone going into Lambeau in January starts out about 7 points down, in my estimation.

I'm perfectly happy to give up that loss in the pool.

[Bill Dungsroman]

My brother was rooting for the Gnats because he believes that it means that GB now has a better chance of winning the NFC.

He may be right, but I just couldn't stop hoping that the Manning brothers would go 0-fer-2 today.
Do you really need more convincing that GB has a better chance winning at home against NY than on the road against Dallas? You could, I dunno, poll any random idiot with a passing interest in the NFL for a supporting opinion.

[Cronox]

Do you really need more convincing that GB has a better chance winning at home against NY than on the road against Dallas?

That seems like a bit of an odd comment to make a few hours after the Giants on the road beat Dallas at home.

[Robert Sharp]

God, Robert. You've turned into as bad a homer as Ryan A.

If by homer, you mean 'fan,' then teah.

[Robert Sharp]

That's a gigantic "if" you've got there. Might as well throw in "if TO played for us" and "if Young was playing at a pro bowl level."

I like the Titans and they do have a very good defense, but their offense is nowhere near being able to win a playoff game.

Yeah. That's what I said. Are we arguing about something?

[Bill Dungsroman]

That seems like a bit of an odd comment to make a few hours after the Giants on the road beat Dallas at home.
I guess that's because you're not really paying attention to what Rimbo and I were actually discussing.

[Bill Dungsroman]

If by homer, you mean 'fan,' then teah.
Actually, I mean "concocts weird grassy-knoll 9/11 fanfic where his team wins the Superbowl."

[Lorini]

I'm looking forward much more to the NFC playoffs than the AFC. The Colts decided they could mail it in, and got what they deserved, but I'm just sorry, I don't think SD is going to have a chance in hell to beat NE in NE.

OTOH, who knows about the NFC? Yes, we'll have the infamous frozen tundra, but this just may be Lil Bro's year and the Giants could prevail. If they do, it'll make for one of the most boring SB's, but the sponsors would love it. (Anything New York!).

[delirium]

If they do, it'll make for one of the most boring SB's, but the sponsors would love it. (Anything New York!).

Boring just because Brett Favre isn't playing? The last Giants/Pats game of the season was very exciting.

[Shmtur]

OTOH, who knows about the NFC? Yes, we'll have the infamous frozen tundra, but this just may be Lil Bro's year and the Giants could prevail. If they do, it'll make for one of the most boring SB's, but the sponsors would love it. (Anything New York!).

Actually, according to Don Banks, that's not going to happen. From this article. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/don_banks/01/13/snap.judgments/2.html) (fourth bullet point from the bottom)
Doozy of a doubleheader of defeat Sunday for the Manning clan. Peyton's Colts go down at home against the Chargers, and Eli's Giants can't quite pull the upset at Dallas.

We not only lost any shot at a Manning versus Manning Super Bowl, but that Eli versus Philip Rivers Super Bowl showdown is off the board, too.

See, what we saw was a lie. Like the cake. The Giants, no really, they lost that game! Dallas called Shenanigans, and the NFL had no choice but to comply. Or something. I dunno how it works, really.




Ok, but seriously, you have to love that quote.

[Sarkus]

Yeah. That's what I said. Are we arguing about something?

Not really, you just seemed to get carried away with your comment about the Chargers beating the Colts being a vindication of the Titans. It makes it sound like the Titans needed to be vindicated for losing, as if you expected more.

[Sarkus]

Actually, according to Don Banks, that's not going to happen. From this article. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/don_banks/01/13/snap.judgments/2.html) (fourth bullet point from the bottom)

See, what we saw was a lie. Like the cake. The Giants, no really, they lost that game! Dallas called Shenanigans, and the NFL had no choice but to comply. Or something. I dunno how it works, really.

Ok, but seriously, you have to love that quote.

That is pretty funny. That's what happens when you write your article before the game ends.

[Bill Dungsroman]

Actually, according to Don Banks, that's not going to happen. From this article. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/don_banks/01/13/snap.judgments/2.html) (fourth bullet point from the bottom)


See, what we saw was a lie. Like the cake. The Giants, no really, they lost that game! Dallas called Shenanigans, and the NFL had no choice but to comply. Or something. I dunno how it works, really.




Ok, but seriously, you have to love that quote.
Awesome.

[Shmtur]

It's been pulled now. Awww.

[SolomonGrundy]

In the end, old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill.

I'm making a T-Shirt with that.

[Lorini]

Boring just because Brett Favre isn't playing? The last Giants/Pats game of the season was very exciting.


I don't see the Pats allowing it to be that exciting in the SB. I'm more concerned that no matter what NFC club gets to the SB, we are looking at something similar to the SB 49'er/Charger blowout, about the worst SB I can remember. I would like the spin that Brett could bring to the SB. And Brett is wiley, you never know what he could do in that situation. Eli would just be totally outclassed, I'm just sorry.

[theKevin]

I don't see the Pats allowing it to be that exciting in the SB. I'm more concerned that no matter what NFC club gets to the SB, we are looking at something similar to the SB 49'er/Charger blowout, about the worst SB I can remember. I would like the spin that Brett could bring to the SB. And Brett is wiley, you never know what he could do in that situation. Eli would just be totally outclassed, I'm just sorry.

Good, now I just need the talking heads on ESPN to repeat your statement a hundred times and the Super Bowl will be really exciting with the Patriots fighting for their lives.

[Rimbo]

I don't see the Pats allowing it to be that exciting in the SB. I'm more concerned that no matter what NFC club gets to the SB, we are looking at something similar to the SB 49'er/Charger blowout, about the worst SB I can remember. I would like the spin that Brett could bring to the SB. And Brett is wiley, you never know what he could do in that situation. Eli would just be totally outclassed, I'm just sorry.

I was thinking more along the lines of 1985. The Bears and a woefully undeserving (and differently-dressed) Patriots squad.

[Shmtur]

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