POLL: Halo3 at Launch or later?

[Sarkus]

When do you plan on getting it or are you interested at all.

[Charles]

Where's the option for "if I ever get around to finishing the revolting mess which is Halo 2, I might think about picking up Halo 3"?

[Sarkus]

Where's the option for "if I ever get around to finishing the revolting mess which is Halo 2, I might think about picking up Halo 3"?

I guess I figured that if you never finished Halo or Halo 2 and all you cared about was single player that you would choose either "later if I hear good things" or "never."

[Fugitive]

I have it on preorder but with slow shipping, since I probably won't get my replacement 360 for a little while yet. And I'm still working on Halo 2...

[Charles]

I guess I figured that if you never finished Halo or Halo 2 and all you cared about was single player that you would choose either "later if I hear good things" or "never."

So what if my reading comprehension sucks you INCONSIDERATE ASSHOLE!

That being said, I heard the moderately more expensive version comes with a DVD that has all the cutscenes of the previous story bits from the first two games. Is this true? If so I might just pick it up. Assuming the game actually runs at a decent framerate and doesn't look like ass.

edit: Never said I wasn't a consumer whore. Plus I really liked Halo 1. It'd be nice if Halo 3 made up for how crappy Halo 2 was.

[UncleSmoothie]

Better to get in on the ground floor so you can keep up with the learning curve. If you wait 6 mos, the only people playing online will be the super-hardcore and you'll never be able to hang. It's like trying to play the original Counter-Strike now.

[scharmers]

Halo 3? Oh yeah. That little console shooter. I played it, when it was called Quake 2 in 1997.

Now if the Mortyr franchise were to hit the XBox 360s, that would be something special.

[Shadari]

Fuck you for insulting Quake 2! :)

[Jason Cross]

Where's the option for "I'm about to start playing it in like 5 minutes?"

[Charles]

Better to get in on the ground floor so you can keep up with the learning curve. If you wait 6 mos, the only people playing online will be the super-hardcore and you'll never be able to hang. It's like trying to play the original Counter-Strike now.

The only games I play online are online-only games. There has yet to be an exception to this that doesn't fit in the mold of "tried it once or twice because I was curious".

[VegasRobb]

I'll try and get it release day.

[krokodile]

Better to get in on the ground floor so you can keep up with the learning curve. If you wait 6 mos, the only people playing online will be the super-hardcore and you'll never be able to hang. It's like trying to play the original Counter-Strike now.

Uh...

Woah.

Have you ever played Halo 2? There are still noobs on that, so careful about the 6 month comment.

And I plan on picking it up Tuesday at Noon, so that I don't have to deal with the ultra-nerds at midnight...

And I don't know if the busses run till 1, around here.

[metta]

I wasn't really interested in this - I played Halo on my Mac, and thought it was okay, and never played Halo 2 - but the multiplayer options for Halo 3 look pretty tasty. I might pick it up if the word of mouth is good.

[forgeforsaken]

The fact that you can easily edit the locations of flags on the various maps for CTF, Territories and whatever the other ones are called is pretty darn awesome.

[deepruntramp]

I dunno. I picked waiting on reviews, because it's not a game I'll rush out and buy, but it's probably a game I'll get suckered into buying via friends or the orgasmic anecdotes about online play.

Single-player I'd (I'll?) only play for the achievements.

[Jackstar]

Where's the option for "I'll play Halo 3 when I can use a mouse?"

[Balasarius]

Unfortunately, I'm away on business during the launch.

I'll get it a few days later when I get back.

[Woolen Horde]

Amazon shipped my Cat Helmet edition. Won't go out until Monday, though. Even though I'm a Prime member (automatic free 2-day shipping, which is usually free overnight since the Nevada distribution center is only four hours away), the Amazon email said three-day shipping. WTF?

[krokodile]

Amazon shipped my Cat Helmet edition. Won't go out until Monday, though. Even though I'm a Prime member (automatic free 2-day shipping, which is usually free overnight since the Nevada distribution center is only four hours away), the Amazon email said three-day shipping. WTF?

I'd call them and get that straightened out.

[Qenan]

I'm not too into shooters, so it needs to be game of the year or close before I think about bothering.

[Marcus]

I still have not bought Gears yet so I think I'll be holding off for a while for this.

[EvilIdler]

There's Team Fortress 2 and Call of Duty 4 getting in the way of me buying Halo 3 at full price.
Holding out till I'm convinced that it's better than those two shooters.

Then there's Army of Two and more coming later :/

[krokodile]

I still have not bought Gears yet so I think I'll be holding off for a while for this.

I find this gleefully ironic, since your name is Marcus.

[Marcus]

I don't think I get it.

[Moggraider]

There's no reason not to get Halo 3 immediately, as the release calendar is a little barren til mid-October, when it starts up again.

[Lizard_King]

I don't think I get it.
The main character of GoW is named Marcus Fenix. Savor the irony.

[Charles]

Then there's Army of Two and more coming later :/

lol tampons

[Marcus]

Interesting. I might have to get the game now!

[bigdruid]

Release day, baby. Now I just gotta figure out how to hook up for multiplayer with youse Qt3 guys.

[Sockpuppet]

You forgot the "When my XBox is repaired" option, because that's when I'll buy my copy. :)

[Ryan Markel]

I'm aiming for sometime in October, as I don't have the expendable income at the moment.

[Shadari]

I'll wait for the PC version.

[Marcus]

And the next MS OS release?

[tromik]

Grabbing it Tuesday night right after work. I have Wednesday off. I should be running errands and shit since it's my only day off, but fuck it.

[Shadari]

And the next MS OS release?
If need be. I'm a pretty patient person.

[RepoMan]

Fucking Gamestop auto-robot just called me and told me they'd be open at midnight and that I should get there at 9 pm to pre-pay. And dammit, now I think I actually might go do it. The last (and only) time I did any kind of whoop-de-doo hype-o-rama wait in line shit was for the launch of the first Xbox. If I can get there at 9, then go home and chill, then come back at midnight, that'll be pretty dealable. Sigh, I'm so easily manipulated.

[UncleSmoothie]

Uh...

Woah.

Have you ever played Halo 2? There are still noobs on that, so careful about the 6 month comment.


Yeah, I'll be real careful next time.

[Wholly Schmidt]

Where's the option for "I'm about to start playing it in like 5 minutes?"
I saw a couple of you guys in Halo 3 on my friend list, and the only thing that took the sting out of it was that I was playing Marathon at the time.

[ZekeDMS]

I'll rent it, probably, when I get a chance. I'm not buying it, however, after the ending of Halo 2 caused me to kick over a chair.

I'm only renting it because I want to see the end of the damn story, as the single-player is my only concern. The multi interests me, but I'm playing TF2 and hate the 13 year olds on XBL.

[Sarkus]

Wow, I'm surprised that as of this posting only about half the respondents are planning to get it right away. Is there really that much "Halo 2 single player" backlash?

[mono]

I think the leaked Halo 3 ending on youtube will satisfy my Halo jones until the ending for part 4 gets leaked.

[Marcin]

Wow, I'm surprised that as of this posting only about half the respondents are planning to get it right away. Is there really that much "Halo 2 single player" backlash?

No, some of us just don't care all that much. There's so much to play right now.

[Jonathan Blow]

Wow, I'm surprised that as of this posting only about half the respondents are planning to get it right away. Is there really that much "Halo 2 single player" backlash?

I just never found Halo or Halo 2 to be very good, gameplay-wise, compared to PC shooters.

The mouse is a significant part of that, for sure, but there seem to be design-philosophy-related reasons too.

[krokodile]

Fucking Gamestop auto-robot just called me and told me they'd be open at midnight and that I should get there at 9 pm to pre-pay. And dammit, now I think I actually might go do it. The last (and only) time I did any kind of whoop-de-doo hype-o-rama wait in line shit was for the launch of the first Xbox. If I can get there at 9, then go home and chill, then come back at midnight, that'll be pretty dealable. Sigh, I'm so easily manipulated.

Call them during their regular operating hours, and ask them if you are guaranteed a copy if you can come and get it later on, instead of directly at Midnight.

Thats what I'm doing.

I Love Halo... but not so much that I'm not going unless I can guarantee that the busses around here will run that late.

[Moore]

I didnt like 1 or what little I played of 2, but I'm picking mine up at midnight.

[Wholly Schmidt]

I didnt like 1 or what little I played of 2, but I'm picking mine up at midnight.
Decided where yet?

[Desslock]

Maybe from Santa.

[Pumpkinhead]

Not midnight because I have to get up at 6 for work. But Tuesday after work for sure.

I am enjoying reading all of the "I'm too hard core for Halo... I played Quake 2 back in the day..." posts though.

[Jonathan Blow]

"I'm too hard core for Halo... I played Qtest back in the day..."

Fixed that for you.

[Vincent_GC]

Normally, I would get it after work on tuesday. Unfortunetly, I forgot that the 25th was the release date and I'm schedualed to be on a plane by mid day. The Warden's not allowing me to bring the 360 with us on our little venture.


So the next logical thing to do is wait in line monday, buy it right at midnight, stay up and play all night, then sleep on the plane.

[Mox]

What do we tick for "pre-ordered a Cat Hat"? I'm getting it on release day, but I'm paying someone else to "virtually" stand in line for me.

[McBain]

Buying it release day for co-op.

Yeah, co-op. I wasn't a fan of HALO or HALO 2, actually, but fuck you, it's co-op.

[Moore]

Decided where yet?

There is a gamestop about a half mile from me, the simpsonville one next to target. I'm not one for lines, so I'll probably actually grab it at 12:45 or 1.

[Lake]

I will wait for a serious price drop. Halo is OK, nothing special and I do not care about Halo multiplayer either.

[Dean]

When I finish Bioshock.

[SqueakyFoo]

I have too many good games to play to worry about an over-hyped average one. However, I may pick it up one day when I clear out my backlog (hah!).

[krokodile]

So who is taking the responsibility of making the Qt3 clan?

Don't forget there is that group on Bungie that I saw...

[Desslock]

I will wait for a serious price drop. Halo is OK, nothing special and I do not care about Halo multiplayer either.

When will its price drop - 2012? Do console game prices ever drop?

[Charles]

When will its price drop - 2012? Do console game prices ever drop?

No, never.

[Jackstar]

Do console game prices ever drop?
I'm not correctly parsing your irony here, but you can't possibly be serious.

[ZekeDMS]

Overhyped average games never go down, Desslock. Genius drops to 20 bucks in 6 months(Beyond Good and Evil, Psychonauts, etc.).

[krokodile]

Yeah, Halo 2 was still 50 many months after it released.

Hell, Halo 1 didn't drop in price until Halo 2 came out, I don't believe.

[Jeremy Johnsen]

When I get a 360?

[MattKeil]

Where's the "already have it" option?

Didn't take long for the thread to turn into PC warhorses decrying the filthy console infidel FPS for simplistic/archaic design, I see.

[tromik]

Overhyped average games never go down, Desslock. Genius drops to 20 bucks in 6 months(Beyond Good and Evil, Psychonauts, etc.).
There are exceptions. Any of those Atlus RPGs or TBS RPGs were impossible to find, and when they'd pop into store 6 months later with a shipment of three copies, they'd actually gone up in price.

And of course, you can find most of the 360 launch games for $10 or less. There are so many copies of the bundled GRAW floating around that stores are practically giving the used copies away for free.

[Shadari]

Didn't take long for the thread to turn into PC warhorses decrying the filthy console infidel FPS for simplistic/archaic design, I see.
Would you rather suppress the truth? :P

[ZekeDMS]

I'm not sure I'd call GRAW an exception to my thoughts on that, Tromik, but I was a fan of the original GR, and original Rainbow 6. They're completely different games now which suffered from an awful transitional game(Ghost Recon 2/Rainbow Six 3). Atlus games were originally a case of underproduction, but incredible word of mouth and a super dedicated fanbase did the job.

These days, though, it seems a lot of games(especially sports annuals) don't drop until a sequel comes out or 3 years.

Well, in game stores. Amazon is another beast entirely.

[krokodile]

Where's the "already have it" option?

Didn't take long for the thread to turn into PC warhorses decrying the filthy console infidel FPS for simplistic/archaic design, I see.

I'm new to the forum and even I realize thats all its good for

Check every other Halo 3 thread. Its like the organized to have tandem shitting on of Halo 3.

[Gunmetal]

I'll get it tomorrow if I can find it. I'm not waiting in line at midnight for it - I did that for Halo 2 and Burning Crusade and it's not even remotely worth it

[Gunmetal]

I'm new to the forum and even I realize thats all its good for

Check every other Halo 3 thread. Its like the organized to have tandem shitting on of Halo 3.
Like this one:
http://www.quartertothree.com/game-talk/showthread.php?t=38741
or this one:
http://www.quartertothree.com/game-talk/showthread.php?t=38183&highlight=bioshock

Wait, those are threads where the 360 police step in to help out PC owners having trouble with their games by saying "Lol, should have bought 360!" My mistake.

[Jim Hoffman]

I almost never buy a game for more than $40 (yes, even 360 games), so I'll be waiting on Halo 3. Maybe I'll ask for it for Xmas.

[fuzzyslug]

I voted midnight but I may wait until lunchtime tomorrow to pick it up. I actually quite enjoyed picking up Halo 2 at midnight but don't know if I can drag myself to the store twice (9 pm and midnight) just to play it an hour before I fall asleep.

[RickH]

The beta sold me on the multiplayer. It will be the only 360 game that you will be able to find a game going on at any time for the forseeable future.

[Desslock]

Hmm, $70 for Halo 3...or $30 for STALKER, which I've been meaning to pick up.

Is it the extra fees that console developers have to pay to the hardware manufacturers that make console games so expensive, or is it just what the market supports?

We seem to get burned in Canada on console game too, as the prices are $70 for 360 games.

[ZekeDMS]

Well, it ended up being the first thing on my Gamefly queue, so I guess I'll play it sooner than later.

I'd rather it over STALKER, anyway. That one was a real mess to me and studied all the bad parts of Far Cry for its design.

[forgeforsaken]

The beta sold me on the multiplayer. It will be the only 360 game that you will be able to find a game going on at any time for the forseeable future.

I think CoD4 is going to make a space for itself too.

[Coca Cola Zero]

There are already 8 or so people in line in front of my local strip-mall Gamestop. I hope they enjoy waiting in line for 7+ hours just to get the game 20 minutes sooner than people who show up at midnight.

[UncleSmoothie]

I think CoD4 is going to make a space for itself too.


Hell yes. It's going to be a fun couple of months.

[Ryan Markel]

Hell yes. It's going to be a fun couple of months.

I think I will be playing a lot of CoD4 multi, personally.

I'm thinking about trading in Gears and a few other things to pick this up tomorrow instead of waiting until the end of October to grab it. The only thing stopping me is my near fanatical desire to not give the dedicated game stores any used games to sell.

I'm personally assuming that they will not be short stock of copies of Halo 3 come tomorrow.

[metta]

I changed my mind. With the Orange Box coming soon and then CoD 4 I think I will have plenty of multiplayer mayhem to keep me busy.

[Ephraim]

Hmm, $70 for Halo 3...or $30 for STALKER, which I've been meaning to pick up.

Is it the extra fees that console developers have to pay to the hardware manufacturers that make console games so expensive, or is it just what the market supports?

We seem to get burned in Canada on console game too, as the prices are $70 for 360 games.

Hey, Desslock, in case you reconsider, I picked up Halo 3 (regular edition) for $59.99 CAD today at HMV in Montreal. I understand it's the same price in Toronto. At $59.99, it's the same price as the US version, which is fair considering the current exchange rate. Otherwise you're absolutely correct in that we're getting robbed.

[Marcin]

I changed my mind. With the Orange Box coming soon and then CoD 4 I think I will have plenty of multiplayer mayhem to keep me busy.PGR4 in a few days, the Zelda DS game, and I haven't even picked up Metroid 3. This month is ridiculous.

[RepoMan]

I bought my pre-order at 9 pm, decided to grab a couple hours of shuteye instead of waiting on line with the freaks, and then couldn't bear to get up again at midnight. Headed to the mall now.

[Harkonis]

rental only, never been a fan, didn't care for beta but will play with the gang since most games are fun if you play with people you know.

[Peter Jones]

A bunch of friends were planning on going to the midnight release, and since I didn't know for sure what my schedule today would be like, I picked it up last night. I did pop it in to start it up, but only played for about 5 minutes. The midnight release "event" was pretty weak. Don't think I will be doing that again.

[RepoMan]

Damn, there was a 20-person line at 10:10 AM this morning. This shit be selling like crack-laced hotcakes.

[deepruntramp]

Didn't take long for the thread to turn into PC warhorses decrying the filthy console infidel FPS for simplistic/archaic design, I see.
It's fine, it'll still sell better than any PC game released this year.

Me, I'm waiting for the armchair rationalizations, they're always the funny part. Those and the only half-kidding declarations of DOMED.

EDIT: Oh wait, Burning Crusade was released on January 14th. Dunno if Halo 3 will beat that in time. Silly WoWBox. I mean PC.

[Kevin Grey]

Damn, there was a 20-person line at 10:10 AM this morning. This shit be selling like crack-laced hotcakes.

Just go to 7-11 instead. I could have bought it this morning while picking up my coffee.

[RickH]

GameFly's got it on the way. Woohoo.

[Skipper]

My game spend has been surprisingly low lately due to me being re-addicted to WoW. I'm shying away from Halo release week, hell I may not even get it for a few weeks.

I must be crazy. Then again I fully expect Mass Effect to tear me away from the PC for a while.

[ZekeDMS]

I wonder how many copies Gamefly got?

Normally I have trouble getting a new release, but they probably anticipated infinite demand, and that people will buy it rapidly anyway. Or they'll report shipping problems en masse.

[RickH]

I wonder how many copies Gamefly got?

A bunch I thinks.

They'll already sell it to me for $45, but I'll at least wait for the disc to show up. Not a bad price for a one-owner (me) game and a virgin case.

[Moggraider]

I was lucky to get Halo 3 shipped to me at release, too. I'm showing the buying price as $50, though, not $45. Rick H gets it for $45 because he's been a member for more than a year.

[Rimbo]

Haven't finished Bioshock yet.

[Ryan Markel]

I caved and bought it at Gamestop on the way home from work today.

I walked in and asked them to buy a copy, then mentioned that I hadn't pre-ordered, and they gave me this act where they had to dig around in the "back room" to see if they had another copy.

Never mind the fact that they had display boxes EVERYWHERE for it.

[Coca Cola Zero]

Few things gaming-related piss me off faster than some jerkoff at a pre-order-happy retail store suggesting that I might miss out on a new SOFTWARE release due to low supplies, or that I'm somehow lucky I managed to get a copy even though I was stupid and didn't preorder. Usually when they start that spiel I'll just tell the guy to tell me for sure if they have any copies because otherwise I'll just go to the Best Buy down the street.

[Ryan Markel]

Few things gaming-related piss me off faster than some jerkoff at a pre-order-happy retail store suggesting that I might miss out on a new SOFTWARE release due to low supplies, or that I'm somehow lucky I managed to get a copy even though I was stupid and didn't preorder. Usually when they start that spiel I'll just tell the guy to tell me for sure if they have any copies because otherwise I'll just go to the Best Buy down the street.

What might have been better was that they are trying to combine sales of Halo 3 to pre-orders for Halo Wars, a game that doesn't really have a release date yet.

It's not surprising that GS is making a killing off interest on pre-order money and guaranteed sales based on these things. I know a lot of people who would certainly have signed up for it.

[Moore]

as a non-halo player, playing this a bit today, its hard as balls! legendary is a bitch.

[RickH]

I was lucky to get Halo 3 shipped to me at release, too. I'm showing the buying price as $50, though, not $45. Rick H gets it for $45 because he's been a member for more than a year.

True, I suppose I was arguably suggesting that $45 was the standard price.

Still, a nice perk for being a good customer. Let's see if I really get the bluetooth headset with my "buy it" for Warhawk.

[krokodile]

as a non-halo player, playing this a bit today, its hard as balls! legendary is a bitch.

I'm a Halo player, and I'm playing on Heroic alone, and its kicking my ass.

[forgeforsaken]

Yeah, I'm thinking I shouldn't even have started on Heroic. That first Chieftan with a hammer, that location was tough, with the snipers on the far side. I'm finally starting to get a groove now that I'm out of the jungle. Need to use the equipment more than I do too.

[Ryan Markel]

There's a spot in the third episode with a bunker on a hill where you have to defend for a few minutes, and that part alone took me something like 25 minutes.

This is a lot harder than I remember Halo 2 being on Heroic. I'm definitely going to need co-op help for Legendary.

[delirium]

Yeah, I'm thinking I shouldn't even have started on Heroic. That first Chieftan with a hammer, that location was tough, with the snipers on the far side. I'm finally starting to get a groove now that I'm out of the jungle. Need to use the equipment more than I do too.

I didn't have TOO much trouble with the first hammer guy since it was a nice wide open battlefield. The second hammer guy you encounter, though...ooooooof. I've been trying to clear that room for the last hour with no success. It's hard enough to kill all his minions, but once the doomhammer approaches I usually freak out and run into a wall.

[forgeforsaken]

I didn't have TOO much trouble with the first hammer guy since it was a nice wide open battlefield. The second hammer guy you encounter, though...ooooooof. I've been trying to clear that room for the last hour with no success. It's hard enough to kill all his minions, but once the doomhammer approaches I usually freak out and run into a wall.

It wasn't the hammer guy as much as it was the snipers on the other side of the bridge.

[McBain]

Too many fucking snipers, IMO. And with no clue that they are there.

So you pop out of cover for a split second to take a peek, and fucking 18 dipshits blast your head off. Uh, yeah, THAT'S FUN GUYS! Reminds me of that one level in Jedi Outcast that had like 3,700,000 disruptor rifle snipers blasting you while you were stuck on a fucking tiny floating garbage conveyor car.

Of course, the flip side is that cooperative mode on the same difficulty setting is cake -- if both players are being patient and using cover.

[Coca Cola Zero]

The snipers in Halo 3 glow bright blue, you can easily spot them from 10 billion miles away.

[Ephraim]

The snipers in Halo 3 glow bright blue, you can easily spot them from 10 billion miles away.

Sure. If you just so happen to be lightning fast at finding a single glowing bright blue (though it looks more purple than blue to me) spot in an upper treeline somewhere. If you are fast, you might get off a shot (assuming you have an anti-sniper weapon on hand) before they do.

Even if you do manage to spot one sniper, odds are that there are at least 2 more in other areas opposite, but near, the first that will shoot you in the head whenever you try to line up a shot to kill the first.

Yeah, Heroic definitely involves some out-of-the-blue sniper deaths before you learn where they are.

[forgeforsaken]

Sure. If you just so happen to be lightning fast at finding a single glowing bright blue (though it looks more purple than blue to me) spot in an upper treeline somewhere. If you are fast, you might get off a shot (assuming you have an anti-sniper weapon on hand) before they do.


Yeah I was carrying a Brute Shot and a Needler in the part where I kept dieing. Eventually I picked up a Carbine off some Jackal that was trying to flank me and was able to finish it.

[Boss]

Yeah, Heroic definitely involves some out-of-the-blue sniper deaths before you learn where they are.
It's very typically bad game design. You have to die to figure out how to live. It's also way too early in the game for that kind of crap.

The biggest problem with this game so far for me is they've obviously designed it around the thinking everyone played the other two. Maybe that's true, but it sure as heck doesn't make it fun.

[Desslock]

The biggest problem with this game so far for me is they've obviously designed it around the thinking everyone played the other two.

That's sooooooo true. After messing around with Halo 3 for a while, I went back and started a game of Halo 1 on the PC, and it's so much more user-friendly starting out. Halo 3 really starts you in the thick of things, and assumes you know the combat/creatures/weapons, etc. very well already.

I was actually enjoying Halo 1 on the PC again, quite a bit. Maybe I'll pick up Halo 2 and upgrade to Vista after all now, since I'd rather play the higher res PC version since I missed H2 the first time around.

[forgeforsaken]

It's very typically bad game design. You have to die to figure out how to live. It's also way too early in the game for that kind of crap.

The biggest problem with this game so far for me is they've obviously designed it around the thinking everyone played the other two. Maybe that's true, but it sure as heck doesn't make it fun.

Well I think the people that haven't played a Halo really shouldn't be starting on Heroic difficulty.

[Coca Cola Zero]

The snipers just aren't a problem for me in Halo 3, at least not during my initial Heroic playthrough. I hate traditional snipers (as seen in most any World War II FPS) as much as anyone but the Halo 3 snipers are incredibly visible and I don't find myself killed by them unless I'm rushing stupidly into the open. This isn't Gears or anything, but being smart about cover still applies, especially given the armor/health regen system.

[Kevin Grey]

There's a spot in the third episode with a bunker on a hill where you have to defend for a few minutes, and that part alone took me something like 25 minutes.


I'm pretty sure I know the part you are talking about and, yeah, that one kicked my ass. Part of the problem is the game picks the oddest times for Checkpoints. I've been boned where I've just make it through the first wave of something by the skin of my teeth only to start a checkpoint on a second wave when all of my allies are dead and I've used up most of my good ammo.

However, in that bunker battle I ultimately kind of skipped it. Once the tank shows up I had almost given up because I had zero ammo to take it out from afar and melee'ing just attracted hordes of other baddies. So I finally said screw it and just ran down the path, triggered another checkpoint and I didn't have to deal with the baddies I had left behind.

[Boss]

Also, this board desperately needs spoiler tags.

[forgeforsaken]

Damn...

1,229,562 Halo 3 Players (Last 24 Hours)
4,674,438 Halo 3 Games (Last 24 Hours)

[krokodile]

The Brute Shotgun sucks.

Also: Scarabs? Overused.

[metta]

Damn you, Peer Pressure; you're a bitch goddess, pouring honey into my ear while I try and work.

[Coca Cola Zero]

The Brute Shotgun sucks.



What? The Brute Shot is probably my favorite weapon in the whole game, I like it even more than the flamethrower.

[krokodile]

Don't get me wrong, I like it. Its just...

Absolutely NO ammo for it where I currently am.