HPVG Flickr Group

[WarrenM]

Has this (http://www.flickr.com/photos/8047274@N08/) been posted yet? Let the stalking begin!

[Matthew Gallant]

Historically, the presence of HPVG has indicated the need for urgent laparotomy.

[Matthew Gallant]

HPVG is associated with non-necrotic bowel obstruction.

[Matthew Gallant]

A CT scan has a high sensitivity for detection of HPVG, showing branching lucencies within 2 cm of the liver capsule.

[Matthew Gallant]

The presence of HPVG does not always indicate a catastrophic intra-abdominal event.

[WarrenM]

I give you hot girlie pictures and you talk about bowel obstructions and catastrophic abdominal events. I don't like your kinks.

[hong]

Clearly on Qt3, an acronym like HPVG can only stand for "High Performance Video Games".

Of course, in the REAL WORLD, it stands for "Herpes Papilloma Virus G". Hence bowel obstructions and catastrophic abdominal events.

[WarrenM]

Yes, I got it, thanks.

Not the herpes, the joke. I don't sleep with Paris Hilton.

[Squirrel Killer]

I don't sleep with Paris Hilton.
But you would, right?

[ElGuapo]

Annnnd, as that albumn shows, some guy already got dibs.

[Stroker Ace]

Annnnd, as that albumn shows, some guy already got dibs.He looks like some regular high school guy though, she might dump him for Kevin Durant next week or something.

[RepoMan]

TOO MUCH STALKEROSITY.

STALKER is a GAME, people, not real life. Just like HPVG is a painful and irritating virus.

[awdougherty]

That's not going to last through college.

[Hawkeye Fierce]

Look what you dirty old men have done:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/28/AR2007052801370.html?nav=rss_email/components

[Ben Sones]

Okay, so let me get this straight: she (and her family) are upset that one or more G-rated and already publically available photos of herself are travelling around the Internets, and that strangers are commenting on her (admittedly considerable) hawtness. Is that about the whole story? Because seriously, wtf? I can understand that some people may be sensitive about being in the public eye. But if that's the case, then maybe she shouldn't be participating in events that, you know, put her in the public eye. This sort of relatively innocuous fandom has been around far longer than the web, and if they think that they are gazing on the dark heart of the Internet here, then they are rather quaintly naive. Tell them to get back to us after a host of /b/tards decide to create a soul-crushing meme around her.

[Ephraim]

Her father is on to you, pervs! He's tracking Internet stalkers (read:you) even as we speak.

[XPav]

Her father, Allan Stokke, comes home from his job as a lawyer and searches the Internet. He reads message boards and tries to pick out potential stalkers.
You people are all going on the list.

I also wasn't aware that participating in high school sports was granting a non-exclusive license to be leered at by the whole damn world.

[WarrenM]

I also wasn't aware that participating in high school sports was granting a non-exclusive license to be leered at by the whole damn world.
It's a condition known as being a male with eyeballs.

[MatthewF]

Stokke read on message boards that dozens of anonymous strangers had turned her picture into the background image on their computers. She felt violated. It was like becoming the victim of a crime, Stokke said. Her body had been stolen and turned into a public commodity, critiqued in fan forums devoted to everything from hip-hop to Hollywood.

Ok, that article sounds grim (and a tad ridiculous I might add), but about this part, wtf? It's just a picture of her at a pole vault competition, not like someone snuck into her backyard and snapped a shot of her changing. Overreact much?

[dannimal]

I also wasn't aware that participating in high school sports was granting a non-exclusive license to be leered at by the whole damn world.

You should read the student handbook more carefully.

At least for my daughter's school, there's a form you can fill out/sign to tell the school you don't want your child photographed or images of them used on school websites.

Granted, that does nothing about non-school related people taking pictures (other parents/relatives, journalists, random people). There are probably laws regarding taking pictures of minors in semi-public places and what you can do with them, but I'm not a lawyer.

I'd guess that it's more work than the school needs or wants to try and keep random people from taking pictures at events. The hassle of banning cameras entirely isn't worth it, for sure.

[dannimal]

Ok, that article sounds grim (and a tad ridiculous I might add), but about this part, wtf? It's just a picture of her at a pole vault competition, not like someone snuck into her backyard and snapped a shot of her changing. Overreact much?

I wonder if she's ever bought a magazine with paparazzi photos of someone who didn't want to be photographed.

[Kyle Wilson]

I also wasn't aware that participating in high school sports was granting a non-exclusive license to be leered at by the whole damn world.

Appearing in public is granting a license to be leered at. There's nothing illegal about looking at attractive people. Or ugly people. Or anyone in between. People who don't like to be looked at can hide inside or wear burqas.

I enjoyed the Washington Post author's patent air of superiority. "Stokke had tired of constant phone calls, of relentless Internet attention, of interview requests from Boston to Brazil," he writes, implicitly distancing himself. After all, he's not part of the problem, he's just an impartial recorder of events.

[Ephraim]

I enjoyed the Washington Post author's patent air of superiority. "Stokke had tired of constant phone calls, of relentless Internet attention, of interview requests from Boston to Brazil," he writes, implicitly distancing himself. After all, he's not part of the problem, he's just an impartial recorder of events.

Funny, I picked up the same vibe, but for different reasons. For me, it was the ending sequence where the writer goes to great lengths to describe Stokke's pole-vaulting It just screamed "Hey, I'm not just writing about her looks and also objectifying this girl, I'm writing about her pole vaulting, and that makes it all OK! She's an awesome pole vaulter!"

[Jonathan Crane]

I also wasn't aware that participating in high school sports was granting a non-exclusive license to be leered at by the whole damn world.

Amen to that. There's a huge difference between celebs who make their living in the public eye, and a young woman whose ambition was to be a good pole vaulter. Sure, maybe there are a few pervs in the stands who are there for reasons other than the 1500 meter relay, but that's a few orders of magnitude different than being the "internet hot girl of the month". I think it is completely understandable that she doesn't want that sort of attention, and that it creeps her (and her family) out.

[Flowers]

You don't have to be hot if you don't want to, she knows where we keep the Doritos.

[Ephraim]

You don't have to be hot if you don't want to, she knows where we keep the Doritos.


Flowers, once again, wins the thread.

[WarrenM]

We live in an age of digital cameras and phones that can record videos. It's not like it was when we were in high school. There is zero chance you won't find yourself on the internet at some point if you participate in something in front of a crowd. If you become the meme of the month, that might suck, but it's not something that can be stopped.

[Bad Neighbor]

It's just a picture of her at a pole vault competition, not like someone snuck into her backyard and snapped a shot of her changing.


Give it another month.

[Ben Sones]

Yeah. I can understand her being creeped out, in the same way that I can understand why someone might get creeped out by random strangers checking them out on the street. But what are your options, really? You can either grow a thicker skin, or never leave the house again, or you can whack the bees' nest by complaining ineffectually about all the attention you are getting. If only Admiral Ackbar were around to warn her of the dangers inherent in the third option!


EDIT: I rest my case (http://www.odditorium.net/fail.jpg).

[WarrenM]

Those guys are true criminal masterminds. Yes, jizz on her picture and send it to her father. As a lawyer, he wouldn't have the slightest clue what to do with DNA evidence.

[bigdruid]

As a father, I do feel for the girl - the more your picture/name gets out there, the higher the chance that some random freak is going to see it and decide that he is your One True Love and that you are destined to be together Forever Or Else.

On the other hand, if you accept a scholarship to a public university, it does kind of make you a public figure. So have a stiff upper lip, and carry mace.

[XPav]

I looked at the linked Flickr gallery.

Some of these pictures are personal in nature, not just pictures of her polevaulting in public. That's where it becomes creepy.

[Tyjenks]

I think I would freak out as well as a father of two girls. However, I think we are past a point of no return with regards to the internet. Each person on the planet has to get used to the fact that if they have something about them that piques someone's interest, there is a distinct possibility that he/he could become internet fodder for its denizens.

[SpoofyChop]

Every time I see stuff like this...the pole vault girl, Antonella Barba, etc, I try to understand what the hell these kids are thinking putting their personal photos on MySpace or Facebook or whatever.

Clearly there is no way to prevent people from watching you at a track meet and taking photos of you but the next step--the MySpace stalking--is entirely preventable.

[XtienMurawski]

Every time I see stuff like this...the pole vault girl, Antonella Barba, etc, I try to understand what the hell these kids are thinking putting their personal photos on MySpace or Facebook or whatever.

Though you may have me on ignore because of your beef with my sig, I'll comment anyway.

My mom had this same reaction after she found the web page of my sister's [now] ex-boyfriend, the web page that finally, thankfully, enabled my sister to see him for the loser wannabe-'playa' that he really was. Mom's a former high school teacher and she just kept asking me, "Don't these kids know these pictures and the things they say put on the Internet with them forever?"

Having worked with high school kids more recently, I have to say that the latest generations of kids--broad generalization alert--have a far, far different view of privacy than I have. Their goal is to be on the teevee, to be exposed, because that gives them personal value. And it seems, in many cases, that even being on television or the Internets in a scandalous way doesn't matter. There seems to be very little difference between famous and infamous to many of these kids.

The idea that such pictures might haunt them forever has as much impact as fear of dying from cigarettes.

"In-famous is when you're more than famous."



-Amanpour

[John Merva]

Though you may have me on ignore because of your beef with my sig, I'll comment anyway.


When did this happen?

[Skipper]

Just read the post article and her link to a fansite ends up with a page that has been removed with the message:

"Farewell

Sorry for having contributed to the unwanted attention, Allison. We think you're a phenomenal athlete and wish you the best of luck in your academic and athletic endeavors."

Not having seen the site I'm guessing dad the attorney got to them?

[Rimbo]

Okay, so let me get this straight: she (and her family) are upset that one or more G-rated and already publically available photos of herself are travelling around the Internets, and that strangers are commenting on her (admittedly considerable) hawtness. Is that about the whole story? Because seriously, wtf? I can understand that some people may be sensitive about being in the public eye. But if that's the case, then maybe she shouldn't be participating in events that, you know, put her in the public eye. This sort of relatively innocuous fandom has been around far longer than the web, and if they think that they are gazing on the dark heart of the Internet here, then they are rather quaintly naive. Tell them to get back to us after a host of /b/tards decide to create a soul-crushing meme around her.


Yeah, but she's involved in women's athletics, which usually garners only the attentions of the friends and family of the participants.

Seriously, how many female athletes can you name? I can think of three besides Ms. Stokke (Sheryl Swoopes, Mary Lou Retton and that Chastain chick who took her shirt off after beating China in soccer). By comparison, I can name just as many members of the Dallas Cowboys' Doomsday Defense from 1977 without even thinking about it: Harvey Martin, Ed "Too Tall" Jones, Randy "The Manster" White, and Mike Renfro. And I get bonus points for mentioning the nicknames of two of 'em and points taken off for not remembering Chastain's first name.

So, to be fair, if men's athletics is life in the spotlight, women's athletics is life in a four-dollar flashlight powered by AA batteries.

[WarrenM]

Odds are you can't name any women athletes because you aren't interested in women's sports. That would be the logical outcome.

[SpoofyChop]

"In-famous is when you're more than famous."

-Amanpour

I can't remember the beef I had with your sig anymore.

Anyway, unfortunately it seems as though you've hit the nail on the head. It's the Paris Hilton effect.

[John Merva]

I can't remember the beef I had with your sig anymore.

Anyway, unfortunately it seems as though you've hit the nail on the head. It's the Paris Hilton effect.

Infamy, infamy, they've all got it informe.

[XPav]

Kids these days.

Bah, get off my lawn.

[Rimbo]

Odds are you can't name any women athletes because you aren't interested in women's sports. That would be the logical outcome.

Of course. Very few people in general are interested in women's sports compared to men's sports.

Women's tennis is probably the exception that proves the rule.

[Rimbo]

Anyway, unfortunately it seems as though you've hit the nail on the head. It's the Paris Hilton effect.

Paris Hilton actually pays people to keep herself in the news, though. PVG paid nobody. She just became an overnight smash all on her own -- the kind of publicity not even Paris could buy.

[shift6]

I also wasn't aware that participating in high school sports was granting a non-exclusive license to be leered at by the whole damn world.
Do you shade your eyes from reading the local sports section of mainstream newspapers or the local college papers?

Yeah, but she's involved in women's athletics, which usually garners only the attentions of the friends and family of the participants.

[...]

So, to be fair, if men's athletics is life in the spotlight, women's athletics is life in a four-dollar flashlight powered by AA batteries.
The Sacramento Monarchs (women's basketball) are huge up here, mostly because they don't suck unlike the Kings. Arco Arena used to be "Home of the Kings" on all the promo stuff and banners and TV commercials, well since 2002 it's been "Home of the Monarchs". And no, I am not shitting you.

[Squirrel Killer]

Just read the post article and her link to a fansite ends up with a page that has been removed with the message:

"Farewell

Sorry for having contributed to the unwanted attention, Allison. We think you're a phenomenal athlete and wish you the best of luck in your academic and athletic endeavors."

Not having seen the site I'm guessing dad the attorney got to them?
Another possibility is that whoever ran the fan site realized that their attention was unwelcome and pulled it out of common decency. And when you stop laughing, let me just say that my money's really on a C&D with a lot of zeros attached as a threat.

[WarrenM]

Paris Hilton actually pays people to keep herself in the news, though. PVG paid nobody. She just became an overnight smash all on her own -- the kind of publicity not even Paris could buy.
Isn't it amazing how a girl who is actually attractive doesn't have to pay people to pay attention to her?

[unbongwah]

It's a condition known as being a male with eyeballs.
"I'm beginning to see why the suffragette movement are wanting the vote."
"Hey, hey! Any girl who wants to chain herself to my railings and suffer a jet movement gets my vote!"
Isn't it amazing how a girl who is actually attractive doesn't have to pay people to pay attention to her?
Though she may have to pay money to get them to stop.