Fatty sues McDonalds, Burger King, Wendy's, KFC [Archive]

Tyjenks

07-25-2002, 01:57 PM

I wonder how much these fat-asses have exercised during the time periods when they were forced into obesity through their unavoidable cravings.

"You don't need nicotine or an illegal drug to create an addiction, you're creating a craving," Hirsch said

What a ridiculous statement! A craving is something that can be dominated by force of will. The man is suing for his own lack of willpower. He probably fills his tub with "special sauce" and bathes in it, while watching TV, and sucking down Old Milwaukees Best. Not much gets under my skin, but this is infuriating.

Someone suggested today that lawsuits found to be frivilous should have all related costs paid for by the plaintiff. This is how they are doing it in England at this very moment.

Between the legal weed and lack of stupid lawsuits, Merry 'ol England is starting to sound better and better.

Ben Sones

07-25-2002, 02:04 PM

It was only a matter of time. The problem is, people tolerated this sort of dumbass lawsuit when the gun was pointed at the tobacco industry, and now we've set a precedent that can be taken to even more ludicrous extremes. We live in a country that places zero value on taking responsibility for your own actions. Oh-pah.

AIM

07-25-2002, 02:14 PM

We'll if ole fat ass can sue, then I think it's time to go after Epic, Valve and ID because they wasted my life!! You frekin bastards!!!! Today, I wasted 3 hours playing deus ex.. 3 hours!!! What the fu*k!!! Warren Spector, I'm coming after your bank account bastard!!! And let's not even talk about all hours I wasted on UT and MOA:AA.. I got a B instead of an A on my special education 2 class. And it's UT's fault. I should sue them all...

Hmm... I do tend to spend an awefully amount of time here? And this forum has made me late on occasion and it has interfered with my job, my grades and other issues not worth mentioning.

Hmm......

:D

Tyjenks

07-25-2002, 02:31 PM

Come to think of it. I have a small penis and yes I admit it. I heard in High School that Mountain Dew caused this. I think I will subpoena my old high school friends, especially the cute girls, tell them of my penis plight and sue the makers of Dew.

Further more, I think the commercial with the Mountain Goats ramming "heads" is a blatant and unfeeling attack on my reduced manhood. I mean, they are saying, "Look at our big penises smashing into each other. They are so big and strong it does not even phase us. Yours is so puny, you might as well drowned your miseries in our wonderful, high caffiene product. It cannot get any smaller." That or it is a subliminal message trying to get everyone to watch gay porn.

Mark Asher

07-25-2002, 02:45 PM

Alan Au

07-25-2002, 03:06 PM

How about the loser gets to pay juror salary equivalency? That would help make jury duty less of a chore. That's maybe my onen big beef with frivolous lawsuits. Waste of time, I tell ya.

- Alan

Supertanker

07-25-2002, 05:40 PM

This is such a ridiculous abdication of personal responsibility. McDonalds has salads and fat-free dressing - order that: http://www.mcdonalds.com/countries/usa/food/nutrition_facts/salads/index.html There is no need to shove a Big Mac & gargantuan fries down your gullet unless you want it. I regularly buy the kids Happy Meals at McD's (mostly for the toy) and then head over to El Pollo Loco for something less fatty for me.

I just got one of these shirts for my birthday, I think we need to send one to the plaintiff: http://www.game-skins.com/gspa002.shtml

Ben Sones

07-25-2002, 06:21 PM

Reeko

07-25-2002, 06:38 PM

I think the difference here is that the fast food corporations never withheld research on the health effects of their products like the tobacco corporations did. The reason PM, RJR, etc are getting taken to the cleaners is because they willfully lied to people, claiming that their products were neither harmful nor addictive. No fast food establishment has ever gone so far as to claim that foods high in fat and cholesterol are harmless and can be ingested without fear of health effects. This will get thrown out on its ear, and hopefully the attorney will be disbarred.

Mark Asher

07-25-2002, 07:42 PM

Er, it's just a lawsuit, not a judgement. Why not take away free speech just because many people say stupid things?

The judgements against the tobacco industry are indeed real judgements, and it's a very similar situation. Identical, in fact. Any lawyer worth his salt is going to build on the precedent set by those judgements in this new suit.

Oh, has McDonald's repeatedly denied that much of their food is fattening in the same manner that cigarette companies denied year after year that cigarettes were harmful?

I'm not defending this particular lawsuit, just the idea that we shouldn't have the power to bring suit eroded. It's about the only tool individuals have to fight big companies.

Doug Erickson

07-25-2002, 08:44 PM

Israel Bradley, 59, said his ritual of eating a pound of french fries a week

Ritual fry eating. Only in Fattytown, USA.

Desslock

07-25-2002, 09:24 PM

>precedent set by those judgements in this new suit

Precendents don't decide judgments in civil litigation. Political opinions decide judgments. Precedents just give fact fact-finders ammunition to arrive at their politically motivated decisions, heh.

Sharpe

07-25-2002, 09:34 PM

James Galimo

07-25-2002, 11:18 PM

So, how come he didn't sue Carl's Jr., Taco Bell, or Jack-in-the-Box? Never ate at those places? There probably aren't any in his town. All of these places are guilty of one thing only; serving shitty food. But, (and this is his big butt) he is the one guilty of eating it. Instead of blaming McCrap-in-the-Bag for the way he most likely shoveled the garbage down, he should drive down (better make that jog down) to his local supermarket and pick up some Lean Pockets or something.

Or better still, if he wins the suit he'll be able to get himself liposucked, and still have enough to stuff himself again.

Sorry for the rant, but frivolous lawsuits irritate the hell out of me.

wumpus

07-25-2002, 11:26 PM

I just realized this entire thread was a thinly veiled ruse to get Sinner 3001 to materialize out of the woodwork.

wumpus

07-25-2002, 11:29 PM

Is jack-in-the-box still in business? I remember when I lived in Colorado they still had a few, but within a few years they were all closed.

Man, even by fast food standards, those guys sucked. Occasionally I'd go there to punish myself, or perhaps to subconsciously remind myself that yes, there actually were far worse places I could eat than Taco Bell or McDonalds.

Supertanker

07-25-2002, 11:58 PM

Jack-in-the-Box is still all over California & Nevada, at least. Their food is much better than it used to be. If they would dump those stupid coated fries & go back to McDonald's style shoestrings, I'd be there more often. I haven't been to Burger King or JitB for months now, after both adopted those gross coated fries.

Galimo, don't be dissin' Taco Bell. Sacks of TB bean burritos are a Shoot Club staple.

I actually eat at Carl's Jr. all the time because they have the yummy and super-low-fat charbroiled BBQ chicken sandwich (3g of fat per sandwich). It ain't hard to find low-fat fast food.

Desslock

07-25-2002, 11:59 PM

>Is jack-in-the-box still in business

What kind of food comes out of a scary children's toy? A surprise case of salmonella? Were/are they a regional U.S. chain?

Supertanker

07-26-2002, 12:19 AM

What kind of food comes out of a scary children's toy? A surprise case of salmonella? Were/are they a regional U.S. chain?

Funny you should mention that, as they are famous for killing four kids by serving undercooked e.coli-contaminated burgers in 1993.
http://www.meatnews.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Article&artNum=1607
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&q=e%2Ecoli+jack+in+the+box

Brad Grenz

07-26-2002, 12:54 AM

I think he's making a reference to the incident.

They just opened a new Jack in the Box here in town. They actually tore down a strip club and built the resturant on the property. Another location in town is open 24 hours and is always really busy between 2 and 4 AM.

mtkafka

07-26-2002, 02:06 AM

Ben Sones

07-26-2002, 05:51 AM

Precendents don't decide judgments in civil litigation.

Nor did I say that they do. But any lawyer with half a brain is going to point out that if smokers get to reap huge, ludicrous settlements for having the poor sense to take up smoking, then why not give the same consideration to people that suffer the ill effects of unhealthful food?

Oh, has McDonald's repeatedly denied that much of their food is fattening in the same manner that cigarette companies denied year after year that cigarettes were harmful?

I don't see them trumpeting the fact. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen McDonald's point out that their food is bad for your health. Sure, you could say "well DUH--that's common knowledge." But you can say that about smoking, too, and that didn't help the tobacco companies at all.

If we are going to hold them to the same standard to which we hold the tobacco industry, then every Big Mac needs a warning label: 'The Surgeon General has determined that high concentrations of cholesterol and saturated fat significantly increase the risk of heart disease, the number one cause of death in America." Not that warning labels have stopped people from smoking, any more than the common knowledge that it was bad for your health that existed prior to warning labels did.

And for the record, I've never said that people should be restrained from filing lawsuits. I believe no such thing. But I do think this particular lawsuit is stupid and frivilous--a prime example of yet another idiot trying to get someone else to pay the price for his poor decisions--and it annoys me. If there were justice in the world, the judge would throw it out and make this dork pay all court fees, for both parties.

But justice is the sort of thing that would, at the very least, force states to spend their huge tobacco settlements on anti-smoking campaigns, like they promised they would in court. Instead, many states have spent only a token amount of the settlement money in that manner, using the rest for whatever the hell they want (Medicade, bond payments, making up budget shortfalls, you name it). Four states spend none of the settlement money on smoking prevention. Alabama even had the gall to earmark a tidy portion of their settlement for public works improvements aimed at attracting a new tobacco processing plant to the state.

I guess if you are going to award people huge sums of money for acting irresponsibly, then you can't really expect them to use the settlement responsibly.

Reeko

07-26-2002, 06:20 AM

I don't see them trumpeting the fact. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen McDonald's point out that their food is bad for your health.

Next time you're inside a McD's, look on the wall next to the counter. There is usually a large poster displaying the fat and calorie content of every item on the menu.

Bub, Andrew

07-26-2002, 06:38 AM

The judgements against the tobacco industry are indeed real judgements, and it's a very similar situation. Identical, in fact. Any lawyer worth his salt is going to build on the precedent set by those judgements in this new suit.

The only thing identical about it, Ben, is that the end result of consuming the product is health problems. Tobacco contains an addictive substance that's so far gone unregulated and those lawyers were able to "prove" that cigarette companies willfully withheld the fact that cigarettes were harmfull. They even lied before Congress. Fast Food companies do reveal what's in their products and, unless I'm in the dark on something, they don't include addictive drugs that forced this guy to eat there.
So, um, where's the identical?

I also believe that tobacco judgements are ludicrous. I smoked for years, where's my free ride? Oh... I need a disease to get one? Hmmm...

This guy seems to be saying that, because he wanted Fast Food and couldn't cook for himself, he had to eat at McDonalds. Sounds to me like he would have starved to death had they not existed.

chet

07-26-2002, 07:39 AM

The reason for being fat is hardly singular. This guy could have eaten at home - or does he only cook burgers and fries at home because he is so addicted?

Unlike smoking, everyone has to eat. Or do we not really have to eat and the fast food companies created this addiction? If that is his case and he has proof - Damn them all!

You don't have to smoke. Most parents do not start their kids smoking by the time they are three. But your eating habits begin when you are young. So are we to assume his mother was also addicted and was forced to drag her son to the fast food crack house?

Chet

Tyjenks

07-26-2002, 07:43 AM

So are we to assume his mother was also addicted and was forced to drag her son to the fast food crack house?

Chet

His mother is named in the suit as a defendant as well.

Jason Levine

07-26-2002, 07:44 AM

I believe the lawsuit is frivilous too. Hopefully the trial judge will see it the same way when the defendants file a motion to dismiss, which I don't believe has happened yet.

Unfortunately, for the plaintiff's lawyer this is a no lose situation. Even if the case is summarily dismissed, as it should be, look at all the free national publicity he's already received.

And to Ben: The plaintiff's lawyer will undoubtedly cite the tobacco cases as a precedent. That doesn't mean the judge will buy the argument. I can see two important distinctions between the two cases: (1) Unless somebody knows something I don't, fat isn't an addictive substance; (2) As previous posters have pointed out, the fast food industry has never denied the fat content of their food. No, they haven't advertised it, but there's a big difference--one which the law usually recognizes--between not advertising something and actively and deceptively denying it.

Mark Asher

07-26-2002, 09:21 AM

The tobacco industry took active measures to mislead and lie about the harmfulness of their product. The fast food industry hasn't, to my knowledge.

I think this fast food thing is a silly lawsuit also, but I'd rather put up with some silly lawsuits than limit the ability of individuals to sue, which the corporations would love.

The McDonald's coffee thing is a good example. Here's a case where McDonald's knew they were serving coffee that was dangerously hot. If we accept that this is an unsafe practice, how do we get them to desist? Pass legislation regulating the temperature that coffee should be served at in restaurants, or allow individuals to sue them for damages, thereby putting economic pressure on McDonald's to serve their coffee at a lower temperature? The latter makes more sense to me.

Silly lawsuits from individuals like this fatty fast food one are a pain, but it's corporations suing one another that are clogging the courts. Corporations are the litigious-crazy ones. They have lawyers on staff or retainer. They threaten to sue at the drop of a hat.

Desslock

07-26-2002, 09:52 AM

>But any lawyer with half a brain is going to point out that if smokers get to reap huge, ludicrous settlements for having the poor sense to take up smoking, then why not give the same consideration to people that suffer the ill effects of unhealthful food?

Yikes - I was being glib, Ben, thanks for the dig. But to prove to wanna-be lawyers like yourself that my brain expands to both halves , I'd note that they're clearly distinguishable because one is one of the "most addictive substances known to man", and therefore it's very difficult for people to independently decide their actions, and the other people voluntarily choose to inbibe because "tastes good". Plus the cigarette companies deliberately manufactured their products to make them -more addictive-, which made it even easier for the plaintiffs to argue that smoking wasn't a voluntary choice, and therefore they couldn't voluntarily assume any associated risks.

It's ambulance chasing at its worst.

Stefan

Supertanker

07-26-2002, 09:59 AM

I love Chicago Beefs. They are great. Or a combo with an Italian sausage w/ beef and onion dipped bread and maybe some hot peppers on the side. Anybody like these?

When I went to California, they didn;t have these. That sucked!

I never realized Mt. Kafka was in Chicago. ;)

I was born in Chicago, and my Mom grew up on the South Side (112th Place - it wasn't so crime-ridden back then), so I love a good Chicago Beef. If I don't mind the heart attack, a stick of sausage is great in there too (for those who haven't seen one, we are talking a meat sandwich with meat topping). I especially miss the hot dogs - no good ones in California. California must not have enough ex-Chicagoans here to have these restaurants survive, because people have tried. I had a roommate from Philly, and he always complained that he couldn't get a decent Cheesesteak, either.

The one exception I know of is in Vallejo, near San Francisco. The place is called Gumbah's, and it is run by a couple of guys from Chicago that look like they came off The Superfans. The beef and the dogs are exactly right, even with that neon green relish, and the place is covered in Chicago memorabilia. Mom and I would go there all the time for comfort food.

Desslock

07-26-2002, 10:04 AM

>The tobacco industry took active measures to mislead and lie about the harmfulness of their product

They did worse than that -- they chemically altered the nature of their product for no reason other than to make them more addictive, and then lied about doing so.

Ben Sones

07-26-2002, 03:20 PM

The only thing identical about it, Ben, is that the end result of consuming the product is health problems.

Don't get me wrong--I'm not defending the tobacco companies here (they definitely did wrong, in a number of ways). But the cure was at least as bad as the disease, as far as I'm concerned. I really have little sympathy for most of the people suffering from the ill effects of tobacco right now, even if the companies are a bunch of slimebags (and they are), because it's been pretty common knowledge for the past fifty years or so that smoking kills you. You can argue all you want that the tobacco companies tried to hide it. I'll even agree--it's pretty obvious that they did, and they deserve to be penalized for that. But people still knew, and people still chose (and continue to choose) to smoke in spite of the health risks. And that's fine. That's their choice. But they shouldn't expect a big cash bailout when they end up getting lung cancer.

And hey--some foods are pretty addictive, too, for many people. The addictive effects of chocolate have been pretty much proven (it stimulates the release of endorphins, and the sensation can be habit forming). I guess it boils down to whether you want to live in a country that allows you to make choices that affect your personal health, or whether you want to live in a country where the government makes those choices for you. I'll take the former.

Bub, Andrew

07-26-2002, 04:16 PM

Oh yeah, I think we're on the same page. In fact I think it'd be hard to find people who really do think a 30 year 3 pack a day smoker deserves a couple million $$ for their pain. I smoked 10 cigarettes a day for 11 years and I coughed. A lot. I didn't need a warning or evidence that stuff wasn't good for me. Anyway, I just disagree that it means this guy has a case or precedent against the fast food pushers of America.

"The addictive effects of chocolate have been pretty much proven (it stimulates the release of endorphins, and the sensation can be habit forming)."

From experience it's MUCH easier to quit chocolate than nicotine. That's a very silly argument. Heroine addicts testify that nicotine is worse than Heroine, though I'm inclined to think that might be because they don't sell H in corner markets (at least not here in Milwaukee).

I'd also like to know why tobacco execs aren't in jail. I haven't been watching closely, but why haven't there been indictments and such? Those memos are signed, right? Anyone know why the only results have been ludicrous awards to individuals? Which amount to cash punishment to publically held companies who transfer those damages to their shareholders and employees rather than the guilty rat bastards who....

Anonymous

07-26-2002, 06:31 PM

[quote=Bub, Andrew]You can argue all you want that the tobacco companies tried to hide it. I'll even agree--it's pretty obvious that they did, and they deserve to be penalized for that.
They didn't just try to hide it. They actively campaigned that smoking wasn't as bad for you as doctors said, and denied they put anything in there to make it more addictive. They deserve what they got.

I guess it boils down to whether you want to live in a country that allows you to make choices that affect your personal health, or whether you want to live in a country where the government makes those choices for you. I'll take the former.
Okay, so where are you going to go? Where is this utopia where there's no government involvement in health?

And do you trust corporations to disclose all health matters without government intervention? Because unless you're a chemist or a doctor, you need all that government protection because those companies sure as hell can't be trusted to disclose every health hazard involved so you can actually make an informed choice.

mtkafka

07-27-2002, 02:15 AM

"California must not have enough ex-Chicagoans here to have these restaurants survive, because people have tried. "

My friend found a few places in LA that are great for Chicago greasepit food.... oddly he heard from the owner, a Chicagoan, that the reason there arent as much regional type fast foods is because of the cost. The midwest gets all the good fatty food because theres tons of cows from the vast amount of farms closeby!

Still though, LA seem to have better Mexican food when I was there (I've only been there a total of two weeks... so I dont know really). And there west coast pizza I had at a place was pretty good. When I was in NY for a job a few years back... I actually started liking the thincrust NY pizza... but really, stuffed is the best! BIG BIG STUFFED WITH SPINACH PIZZA!

etc

Mark Bussman

07-27-2002, 08:37 AM

I better keep a close eye on this case. If the guy wins, I'm suing Giordano's (and a local place called Barone's) for having such addicting pizza. Being deprived of them was one probably the most painful aspect of moving to Saint Louis, land of cardboard pizza with super-polymer cheese substitute topping. Saint Louis style is a thin crust with provelone cheese! What the hell were they thinking? :evil: At least we were able to find a NY style place that just opened up down the street with decent pizza.

AIM

07-27-2002, 08:47 AM

Yea...

Seriously though I was really thinking about suing my local night clubs because I have a hard time of hearing. AND I'M SERIOUS! I can't hear as well as I used to, because of the loud music that was constantly blasting in my ear drum. The bouncers didn't warn us about not standing so close to the stage. And now I can hardly hear :(

I'm going to my local doctors office next week to get my hearing checked. If my hearing has declined then I feelt hat the night clubs are responsible and should pay.

do you guys agree...

Ben Sones

07-27-2002, 08:49 AM

I better keep a close eye on this case. If the guy wins, I'm suing Giordano's (and a local place called Barone's) for having such addicting pizza.

If you sue Giordano's, I will personally travel to your house and kick your ass. They make, in my opinion, the very best Chicago-style pizza, and quite possibly the best pizza in the world. They are the #1 thing I miss since leaving Chicago. I wish they shipped pizzas like Lou Malnotti's does (especially since I'm not a big fan of Lou Malnotti's).

Fortunately, in Rochester there is a pizza place called Checker Cab, opened by a former pizza chef from Giordanos. The pizza isn't QUITE as good (the crust isn't as tender), but it's pretty close, and made just like a Giordano's stuffed pizza. In a pinch, it's an acceptable replacement.

Anonymous

07-27-2002, 09:11 AM

I should sue everyone here and take all your money...

You all owe me money.

:evil:

Kevin Perry

07-27-2002, 10:35 AM

I hate all of you for even mentioning Giordano's. I left Chicago five years ago and haven't had a decent pizza since.

And no, Pizzaria Uno isn't right either.

Mark Bussman

07-27-2002, 11:44 AM

If you sue Giordano's, I will personally travel to your house and kick your ass. They make, in my opinion, the very best Chicago-style pizza, and quite possibly the best pizza in the world. They are the #1 thing I miss since leaving Chicago. I wish they shipped pizzas like Lou Malnotti's does (especially since I'm not a big fan of Lou Malnotti's).

I agree wholeheartedly, Giordano's = Best Stuffed Crust Pizza. There's no need to kick my ass though, because I wouldn't sue them for millions upon millions of dollars like I'm sure the fast food guy is doing. Instead, I'd sue for a lifetime supply of pizza, so that the addiction that they so willfully caused wouldn't cost me money anymore. :) (Incidentally, I didn't like Lou Malnotti's very much either, only been there once, and that was enough.)

As far as pizza in the mail goes, ask and you shall receive: Giordano's Website (http://www.giordanos.com/) They'll only ship medium pizzas, and you can't get any meat in them, but that's ok, since plain spinach is still an option.

If any of you are handy in the kitchen, or like me, have a spouse who is and also shares your pizza addiction, this might come in handy: Pizza Recipes. (http://www.blue-crab.org/pizza/default.htm) My wife and I are probably going to try out the stuffed spinach recipe this coming weekend. I'll post results if anyone's interested.

Bub, Andrew

07-27-2002, 11:55 AM

Mark, beware the water. Spinach is a notoriously water-filled vegetable and unless you account for it, it tends to ruin things by water-logging them. My wife actually makes spinach lasagna using dry noodles. It works.

Supertanker

07-27-2002, 08:07 PM

Damn you Chicagoans! Damn you straight to hell! You can't make me drool over good pizza when I'm 3000 miles away! I may have to order some of those Giordano's pizzas, though. I also found that Portillo's (http://www.portillos.com/store/) will ship me beef sandwich kits.

Weirdly, today I went to one of the big home improvement stores and decided get a drink for the girls at the hot dog stand out front. Normally these are nondescript carts, but this one was a Woody's Chicago Style (http://www.woodyshotdogs.com/FranchiseOpportunity.html) stand. Celery salt, the bright green relish, everything I wanted. I had a couple and they were pretty good. If they are on a wish fulfillment kick I need to bitch at the gods more often.

DavidCPA

07-27-2002, 08:57 PM

I have lived in Arkansas all my life but there is one dish I haven't found cooked as well in other places - catfish.

My wife and I went to southern California a few years back and I ordered a fried catfish dinner at a fairly nice resturant there (don't remember the name). I noticed that the menu stated it was fresh catfish so I asked the waitress where the catfish was from. She came back and said, "Louisiana." How far away can a food source be and still be called fresh? Needless to say, the catfish tasted like it had been frozen a month. If you are ever in Little Rock, Arkansas, look up a place called Grampa's Catfish in North Little Rock. It is hidden away in a residential neighborhood, but it is worth the search to find it. Catfish anyway you want it - whole, steaks, fileted, fried, broiled, grilled, you name it. Plus you get to throw your peanut shells on the floor. They also have a couple of thousand hats stapled to the walls. Good eatin' :D

-DavidCPA

PS...A lifetime of eating fried catfish, french fries and hush puppies will kill you.

James Galimo

07-27-2002, 09:31 PM

Amazing how a thread about an obese jackass suing fast food places turns into a thread about where to get the best pizza.

There's place aroung here called Old Chicago Pizza. It's probably the best pizza in this area, but I've never had better pizza than when I lived in New York. Here we have "California style" (because apparently, we have to have our own style for everything) which involves toppings that would come close to sacralidge in other states, like broccolli and walnuts. Don't even get me started on "Hawaiian style". Fruit does not belong on pizza, folks. If you like pineapple on your pizza, how about slicin' up some peaches on there? Or how about some nice strawberrys?

Here, it's not so much about the best pizza anymore, it's about the best Burrito. It sucks, really. I moved from a city that had a pizzeria every other block to a city that has a mexican place every other block.

Bub, Andrew

07-28-2002, 12:28 AM

Do they still have crappy local bands and, sometimes, poetry at that Swensons downtown by the College down there James? The hottest summer I ever spent was with a Santa Rosa girl tubing on the Russain River. That would be '92, btw.

Mark Bussman

07-28-2002, 10:06 AM

Fruit does not belong on pizza, folks. If you like pineapple on your pizza, how about slicin' up some peaches on there? Or how about some nice strawberrys?

Amen brother!

wumpus

07-28-2002, 11:36 AM

Fruit does not belong on pizza, folks. If you like pineapple on your pizza, how about slicin' up some peaches on there? Or how about some nice strawberrys?
Don't be dissin the pineapple. It's my favorite pizza topping. There's something about hot tomato paste mixed with the tangy semi-sweetness of pineapple; it's a nice contrast.

Interestingly, this is a preference my wife and I shared before we met. Go figure.

Tyjenks

07-28-2002, 11:59 AM

My wife eats Pineapple on her pizza and I despise it. The local Papa John's sent my mom and I a pizza with sausage and double bacon one day. Only their Bacon and pineapple symbols for the pizza cook must look similair. What we received was sausage and double pineapple. You cannot just pick pineapple off, as you all well know. It seeps into everything. After picking it all off we ate a pizza that was topped with some sickenningly sweet sausage/pineapple mutation. Ugh!!! it was miserable. My mother and I both actually felt sick the next day.

Pineapple=Evil

wumpus

07-28-2002, 12:10 PM

Maybe your evil seeped into the pineapple, and not the other way around. How can you blame the innocent pineapple? In fact, I found this little-known picture of Bruce Geryk with his favorite fruit (not inclusive of himself):
http://www.drinkydrink.com/pineapple.jpg
Does that look evil to you? Does it?

Tyjenks

07-28-2002, 02:04 PM

Does that look evil to you? Does it?

Yes. That looks like the first of many he is pulling from the top of his skull. Each to spawn another evil Geryk. Aha! All pineapples come from Bruce Geryk's brain. We ate chunks of his tainted offspring and we then became sick.

Thanks. This makes much more sense than that disgusting, sweet fruit being sneeked (snuck) onto our pizza and making us ill.

Sean Tudor

07-28-2002, 03:43 PM

Xaroc

07-28-2002, 04:58 PM

Are Americans eating themselves to extinction ? Australia isn't far behind. It's frightening to think just how much we gorge ourselves on food when there are whole nations starving.

Does anyone ever feel guilty about eating so much food ?.

No because I didn't cause those people to be hungry. I feel bad for them and might even contribute money for food to them but I refuse to feel guilty because guilt implies that you were responsible for their hunger in the first place.

-- Xaroc

Bub, Andrew

07-28-2002, 05:50 PM

Jason McCullough

07-28-2002, 06:57 PM

I'm not saying you're responsible Xaroc, nor anyone here, or that anyone should feel guilty, but didn't Angola or something sell all their wheat and corn to help pay off their International Debt... and this helped cause the current famine there?

http://www.jubilee2000uk.org/databank/profiles/angola.htm

They have oil reserves, diamond mines, and total debt equal to only 20% of GNP. Aid would be nice of us, but they're definitely not the most deserving of countries.

At the beginning of 1999, the fragile UN-negotiated ceasefire no longer holds and the prospects for political and economic stability are worse than for several years.

There's your problem.

Qenan

07-28-2002, 06:57 PM

I agree with Mark. Sure, there are some dumb lawsuits (this one among them), but overall that is a cost our society can bear.

Jason Levine

07-28-2002, 07:33 PM

I've lived in Chicago for almost 14 years now, and the only time we seem to get a deep-dish pizza is when we have out-of-town visitors. On our own, we, and most other locals we know, prefer a thin-crust pizza from places like The Home Run Inn, Barrones or Tony Roma's.

Jim F.

07-29-2002, 06:58 AM

I've decided to sue cows. They are tasty, addictive, and high in fat. I'm not looking for money in this suit (although I am asking for $15 mil for emotional distress), I am simply trying to get a warning message tatooed on every cow in this nation. Something simple like "WARNING: This cow is filled with beefy goodness. Beef has been proven in animal studies to increase the risk of heart attack".

As for pizza, Old Chicago is some of the best pizza I've ever had. The best is a local chain called Zio's that makes everything with fresh ingredients. It's amazing how much better a pizza is when the toppings taste like they were bought that morning from the produce isle. Most chain-style pizza tastes like it was sitting in my freezer and was cooked by a bachelor.

Dave Long

07-29-2002, 10:23 AM

If anyone goes to the Delaware beaches, lives near Wilmington, DE or is near the Poconos, you've got to try Grotto Pizza. It's the best thin crust pizza I've ever eaten. I look forward to visiting the DE coast just to go to Grotto. There's nothing like it anywhere that I know of. Plain is the preferred style too, no toppings, just cheese and sauce. Mmmm...

--Dave

Sparky

07-29-2002, 12:22 PM

Grotto! On the boardwalk at Rehoboth Beach. I'm a native Delawarean, and the pizza here in California is just...wrong. The "Nicoboli" at Nicola's Pizza is good, too.

Dave Long

07-29-2002, 12:50 PM

I just got back from Ocean City, MD on Sunday. I ate at Grotto in Bethany Beach twice and had some leftovers for lunch today. I like to think I go to the beaches to enjoy the sun and surf, but it's really just to eat Grotto Pizza, and Thrasher's Fries. :)

--Dave

Xaroc

07-29-2002, 02:29 PM

Skip Grotto go straight to Nicole Pizza. Best pizza EVAR. Also if you want real boardwalk fries from a place that is not a mass market nightmare go to Gus and Gus on the boardwalk in Rehoboth Beach, DE. Their fries are by far the best I have ever had.

I do completely agree about going to the beach though at least now, it is for the food and attractions as much as it is about actually going to the beach. When I was younger it was for the arcades. Spent many a summer dropping quarters into Donkey Kong and Missile Command machines down there.

-- Xaroc