Bear Drops moving info and issues: [Archive]

Jason Cross

01-13-2007, 12:21 PM

Okay, we're pulling the trigger to take the free character transfer to Arathor right now. Please move your character from Horde/Moonrunner ASAP:
https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/account/character-move.html

Some things to note:

- I sent mail to everyone in the guild informing them of the move. We have a bunch of inactive members who probably won't find out about the free move until after it's over (Blizzard is closing the free move on the 19th). If you know anyone who doesn't log in to WoW or read Qt3 regularly, please tell them.

- The roster page may need to be updated. Marcin? Any changes need to be made there? http://www.damodred.net/wroster4/index.php

- Guild breakup: guild affiliation is lost when you transfer characters. I had to break up the guild to transfer Mourte, too. So we'll reform on the Arathor side. First one in, please get started on the guild charter stuff.

- Guild name: Since Drop Bears is staying on Moonrunner on the Alliance side, and we'll be on another server, there is no reason to keep the same guild name. Anyone got any ideas?

- Guild leader: I (Mourte) became guild leader by default because I was the first to complete my transfer in to Moonrunner and get the charter rolling. I can stay guild leader if you want, but if anyone else has a desire, that's fine with me. I have zero emotional attachment to it. :)

Rywill

01-13-2007, 12:50 PM

I am fine with you staying as leader, you've done a good job with the occasional things that come up.

I'd be in favor of renaming the guild Quarter to Three or QT3, unless Tom or Mark have some objection.

Gordon Cameron

01-13-2007, 12:52 PM

- Guild name: Since Drop Bears is staying on Moonrunner on the Alliance side, and we'll be on another server, there is no reason to keep the same guild name. Anyone got any ideas?

Hoomdoorm's Plastic Fantastic Eclectic Electric Strat Smashing No Healing Gang.

Failing that, I got nothing.

Kareem

01-13-2007, 12:55 PM

I know I'm not in the guild, but a simple guildname of "Koontz" would be totally awesome.

Jason McCullough

01-13-2007, 01:08 PM

Someone Else's Cool Guild Name?

Gordon Cameron

01-13-2007, 01:14 PM

Actually I have got two suggestions:

<Fancy Latin Name>
<Carebears of Kalimdor>

Kareem

01-13-2007, 01:24 PM

Gotta love the fancy latin name guilds. The highest-progression guild on our server is called Caelum. And they have the full inscription from where they got it on their guild website.

I still don't understand what it means.

Sharpe

01-13-2007, 01:27 PM

Well I got my 60 Horde Hunter and 30 Horde druid over to Arathor in under an hour. The server is EMPTY atm - there was me and 1 dude in Org when I logged :0.

I checked the guild master and we could use "Quarter to Three" (that fits) which would be my preferred guild name, or failing that QT3 like we did in Planetside.

Rywill

01-13-2007, 01:32 PM

Hoomdoorm's Plastic Fantastic Eclectic Electric Strat Smashing No Healing Gang
I totally change my vote to that.

Rywill

01-13-2007, 01:33 PM

Whoever is on should get a charter in the name "Quarter to Three" so we can at least begin chatting and coordinating in-game. If someone objects or we all vote for a different name we can just disband and reform. I'll cover the charter if people are saving for mounts or whatever.

Jason Cross

01-13-2007, 01:35 PM

Well I got my 60 Horde Hunter and 30 Horde druid over to Arathor in under an hour. The server is EMPTY atm - there was me and 1 dude in Org when I logged :0.

Really? That's AWESOME. When did you start the move? I just fired mine off a couple hours ago. What was your estimate when you did yours - mine says 72 hours.

I'm hoping for fast transfer, and empty server. It'll fill up just fine once BC hits, and I don't want no queues. But empty this weekend and fast transfer means I can go on thorium mining runs unhindered. :)

I checked the guild master and we could use "Quarter to Three" (that fits) which would be my preferred guild name, or failing that QT3 like we did in Planetside.

I vote for either Quarter to Three, or something funny. Like the guild I see around in the BGs every now and then called "Group Hug."

Quarter to Three is probably the one that will be least objectionable to everyone.

Andrew Mayer

01-13-2007, 01:36 PM

What's "Quarter to Three" in latin?

Gordon Cameron

01-13-2007, 01:36 PM

Omnes Exeunt Sic Semper Magister Pax Gloria Mundi.

I think.

Vincent_GC

01-13-2007, 02:04 PM

And here I was, wondering where to start up my new main since my account got hacked.

You guys going to need a blood elf Pally? :P

Jason Cross

01-13-2007, 02:10 PM

And here I was, wondering where to start up my new main since my account got hacked.

You guys going to need a blood elf Pally? :P

Sure dude, make whatever character you like. We're not picky. We don't have enough people to organize big raids and such, so we spend most of our time just doing 5-mans or questing (well, we'll do more questing once BC hits and we're no longer max level).

HRose

01-13-2007, 02:17 PM

three O clock

Vincent_GC

01-13-2007, 02:17 PM

That's perfectly fine. I gathered that from the 13 active members part earlier.

I have a fresh new account with no characters at the moment. I have yet to play a pally, and since it's a horde guild and BC comes out tuesday, it seemed to me like the perfect opportunity.

Kareem

01-13-2007, 02:22 PM

Quick question. If someone downloads the trial client, can they install the expansion over it?

Vincent_GC

01-13-2007, 02:31 PM

I don't think so.

Trial client is only availible for 14 days, and if I remember properly, it has limits in place untill you purchase the full version.

Ranulf

01-13-2007, 04:06 PM

What time zone is Arathor?

Jason Cross

01-13-2007, 04:28 PM

What time zone is Arathor?

Pacific.

The character transfer page says the "average wait time" is 96 hours, and of course my transfer of Mourte is "pending."

Those estimates tend to be on the high side, but still, get those moves in early!

Gordon Cameron

01-13-2007, 04:36 PM

Oddly, my 26 mage and 2 warrior got in within an hour of ordering the transfer, while my 60 warrior and 9 priest are still pending. Oh well.

Also, I can still play the warrior on Moonrunner which seems odd. I would have thought he'd been locked. He is listed as Pending last I checked though.

Also, on my mage on Arathor now I can't use / functions like /whisper or /join channel. It just makes him say "/join channel" etc. out loud. Emotes still work. I don't know if this is some weird interface/settings thing. It looks like it set stuff back to "zero" because the beginner tips were activated too, but I've never had a problem using / functions before.

Michael Fortson

01-13-2007, 05:51 PM

I'd be in favor of renaming the guild Quarter to Three or QT3, unless Tom or Mark have some objection.
I think that's a good idea, for a variety of reasons (some of which should be fairly obvious). Not that I'm playing with the QT3'ers in this one (too much of an investment in Rounders on Chromaggus, and PvP servers in general).

fuzzyslug

01-13-2007, 06:43 PM

I never joined Bear Drops (I've got a couple of characters in Drop Bears) but I'll be creating a new character when I snag the Burning Crusade. Glad you guys moved. I'll be joining sometime soon.

Talorc

01-13-2007, 06:58 PM

Quick question. If someone downloads the trial client, can they install the expansion over it?

As far as I know, there is no difference between the trial client or the 'regular' client, its the ACCOUNT that has the restriction.

TheRock

01-13-2007, 10:00 PM

Ya...I always install the trial client whenever I get back into the game.....it is the account which matters.

TheRock

01-13-2007, 10:02 PM

I'd like to get back into the guild if at all possible. But I've got a full day of football and WOW playing tomorrow so I"ll put the transfer in tomorrow night.

Sharpe

01-13-2007, 10:22 PM

Some of us are over there, I grabbed a guild charter and have 7 sigs so far - need 3 more. Once it is done I will make Jason the GM, but wanted to get the sigs rolling ;0.

Also I agree that we should get an "interim" tabard just for now, and can then have a viewing and voting etc to get an official later. It's only 10g, which at level 60 isnt that much of a sacrifice.

Rywill

01-13-2007, 10:25 PM

Are you sure you can change the tabard once you buy it?

IIRC we had a great Qt3 tabard on Frostwolf. One of the art pieces is an eye, and it worked really well. I think it was a gold eye on a blue background. I vaguely recall that there was a "good" eye and an "evil" eye (sort of like the Eye of Sauron). I vote for the evil eye.

Vesper

01-13-2007, 10:44 PM

FYI- Since I joined recently, I'm not on the guild roster page. Please send me an invite to the new guild once it's made. Character name is Luicin. I'm filling out the form to move my guy tonight.

Thanks.

Rywill

01-13-2007, 11:01 PM

People may not remember to do that. You're better off doing a /who Quarter whenever you're on and sending one of us a tell; I'm sure anybody in the guild will be able to invite you.

Union Carbide

01-13-2007, 11:23 PM

Are you sure you can change the tabard once you buy it?

Yes, it costs the same amount to redesign the tabard as it does to buy it. I'm not sure when the feature was added, as I distinctly remember not being able to change it shortly after WoW launched.

Ranulf

01-14-2007, 12:15 AM

Pacific.

The character transfer page says the "average wait time" is 96 hours, and of course my transfer of Mourte is "pending."

Those estimates tend to be on the high side, but still, get those moves in early!

Cool. I may look into starting up a BE toon there once BC opens up next week or transfer over a 20s priest I have on another server.

Sharpe

01-14-2007, 12:46 PM

Just FYI I'm pretty well convinced that if your char move goes through it goes through FAST, but if you go into "limbo" you have a long wait. I believe if your char move has not gone through in an hour or so, its worthwhile to cancel and resubmit.

Here is my experience: yesterday I put 3 toons in the pipe all at once, a 60 hunter, 30 druid and 20 shaman. The hunter and druid came through to Arathor in minutes. The shaman didn't. As of this morning, 18 hours later, the shaman was still "pending". I cancelled his move, and re-submitted it. Five minutes later he was on Arathor.

I don't know why this is, but everyone who has gotten through has been a super fast move. If your guy is stuck in limbo, try cancelling and resubmitting.

Jason Cross

01-14-2007, 01:41 PM

Okay Sharpe, it's against my better judgement but I'm giving it a shot. :)

Vesper

01-14-2007, 02:06 PM

I'm trying this too.. I moved one character to Arathor (from Silvermoon) and it took literally 2 minutes. My guy from Moonrunner has been sitting in limbo since last night. I'll report back if the cancel/resubmit worked.

Edit: Uh yes it worked. My guy just moved in less than 30 seconds!

Rywill

01-14-2007, 02:06 PM

FWIW my brother Greg (Chumly), "pending" since yesterday morning, just canceled and resubmitted and went right through. I'm going to try it with my character (Maelga) as well.

Edit: worked for me too. This is clearly the way to go. Give it 45 minutes, if you haven't moved, cancel and resubmit.

Marcin

01-14-2007, 02:08 PM

Regarding the roster: I updated the values in the database tables for the realm name wherever I could find'em. I guess once you settle on Guild name I will have to update that as well, and then someone will have to test it. :)

Sharpe

01-14-2007, 02:32 PM

We need 3 more sigs to form the guild and it sounds like we have enough transfers for that now.

We have a QT3 chat channel up - just /join QT3. I'll be off and on all day to do invites. Pop on for an invite so we can get this show on the road :0

Gordon Cameron

01-14-2007, 03:28 PM

Guess I will try the cancel/resubmit thing with Hoom. He is in limbo despite being the first guy I submitted.

edit: He's in the pipe once more. Hope this works...

Sharpe

01-14-2007, 05:09 PM

OK we got the guild formed, name is "Quarter to Three". Can do a /who Quarter to find any of us for an invite.

Gonna hop on later to see if we can get our first Quarter to Three run going :0.

Jason Cross

01-14-2007, 05:14 PM

Yep, canceling and re-trying worked after a few attempts. Logging in to Arathor now.

Oh yeah, Marcin - the only change for the guild page I think you need to make is that the guild name is "Quarter to Three"

Marcin

01-14-2007, 06:15 PM

Gordon Cameron

01-14-2007, 06:27 PM

Goddamn it I knew I should have left well enough alone.

The second time I tried to re-transfer Hoomdoorm he ended up in limbo again. So against my better judgment I just canceled again. Now when I try to move him I get

Character Move
en_batch_processing_disabled

And then the move doesn't go through. I've tried this three times now, same results.

I wouldn't get too cute with re-transferring. The website and servers seem pretty iffy at the moment. Assuming I can actually get my warrior into "pending" status again, I'm gonna leave it the hell alone.

Gordon Cameron

01-14-2007, 06:44 PM

Correction. 6 times now, same result. That's when I can even get to the Character Move page without a "service is too busy" message blocking me.

The website is obviously slammed right now. Maybe in the wee hours things will calm down a bit.

Tom Chick

01-14-2007, 06:48 PM

Umm, so when I try to roll up a Tauren warrior on this Arathorn server where you guys are congregating, I've been getting some message about that character/race not being currently available.

Huh? What's up with that? Man, I am so out of the WoW loop these days. They're closing off entire classes and races in some place?

-Tom

Supertanker

01-14-2007, 06:51 PM

I think it is because they don't open the transfer servers to new players until after the transfer is complete. Or you're out of the loop. I'll give it a shot & report back.

Rywill

01-14-2007, 06:56 PM

Talisker

01-14-2007, 06:58 PM

... although you have to get through the 580+ 45 minute queue to create your Moonrunner toon first, of course.

Gordon Cameron

01-14-2007, 07:01 PM

And then you'll get to encounter wonderful "en_process_disabled" messages as you try to move him.

Nah, that probably just happens with level 60 characters, you know, the ones I actually want to *play.* My level 2 warrior made it across just great!

Tom Chick

01-14-2007, 08:08 PM

Wait, wait, so the "new" servers are closed to new characters? What the hell kind of way is that to run an MMO? Can't a guy get a head start leveling a night elf druid or something? Sheesh.

-Tom

Athryn

01-14-2007, 08:30 PM

Wait, wait, so the "new" servers are closed to new characters? What the hell kind of way is that to run an MMO? Can't a guy get a head start leveling a night elf druid or something? Sheesh.

-Tom

Only new transfer servers are closed to new players. They also usually open some completely blank slate servers at the same time.

Although as Greg pointed out to me today, you could just roll a new level 1 character on Moonrunner and then free-transfer it over, so the whole thing is just totally stupid.

Actually, this won't work, as a server disables new character creation (unless you already have a character on the server) whenever it's queued.

Lorini

01-14-2007, 09:45 PM

Wait, wait, so the "new" servers are closed to new characters? What the hell kind of way is that to run an MMO? Can't a guy get a head start leveling a night elf druid or something? Sheesh.

-Tom

The announcement specifically says new character creation is disabled during the transfer process. This means you will be able to create a new character on/after the 19th.

Lorini

Jason Cross

01-14-2007, 11:38 PM

Ok, reset the guild name too.

Awesome, thanks!

But uh... you missed a spot. ;)

Gordon Cameron

01-15-2007, 04:25 AM

Ok finally got my warrior in the pipe again. I'm not touching it again, even if it takes a few days to get him transferred.

fuzzyslug

01-15-2007, 05:51 AM

No, Brad is right. The server is closed to new characters until the free transfers from crowded servers are over with. Although as Greg pointed out to me today, you could just roll a new level 1 character on Moonrunner and then free-transfer it over, so the whole thing is just totally stupid.

This is stupid. I'll want to create a horde toon the moment the Burning Crusade goes live. Now I can't, unless I create something to transfer from Moonrunner. Argh.

Rywill

01-15-2007, 08:08 AM

Ok finally got my warrior in the pipe again. I'm not touching it again, even if it takes a few days to get him transferred.
Sucks. We missed you in the Plastic Fantastic run last night (another no-healer clear of LBRS! Although we wiped like four times in the early going, before we started clicking again).

Rywill

01-15-2007, 08:13 AM

Actually, this won't work, as a server disables new character creation (unless you already have a character on the server) whenever it's queued.
I didn't realize that. Although it's still not much of a restriction. I think there are five servers funneling to Arathor. So all you have to do is (a) find one of those where you already have a character, so the restriction doesn't matter; or (b) make a character on any one of those during a non-queued time like in the morning before work. Pretty easy.

Vesper

01-15-2007, 08:46 AM

One thing that will suck about the no new character restriction is that no one can make a Blood Elf or Dranaei after BC goes live. Not until the 19th, at least.

Or will they make an exception for that?

dannimal

01-15-2007, 08:50 AM

Well, it's the 19th or until they hit their transfer goals. But still, the games is going to be a clusterfuck at least until the 19th, so no big deal.

Jeff Green

01-15-2007, 08:57 AM

So if I pick one of my random Horde toons stranded on various servers and move it to this server, can I join yer guild?

I spent yesterday (first day up outta bed after pneumonia, yay!) trying to do BRD with my trusty ol gnome Eggbert, and since he is guildless (at level 58 still!) I had to try it with pickup groups and it was a freakin' nightmare.

So, eh?

dannimal

01-15-2007, 09:05 AM

I'm sure you could, but right now you can't transfer to Arathor unless you're already on one of the 5 servers that are overloaded.

Ryan A

01-15-2007, 09:13 AM

I'm sure you could, but right now you can't transfer to Arathor unless you're already on one of the 5 servers that are overloaded.

You can if you pay the transfer fee. It just that it's only a free transfer if you're on an overloaded server.

Jeff Green

01-15-2007, 09:35 AM

so what are the five overcrowded servers? I might have a character on one of those. Is Shadowsong one? Lord knows i've been waiting in enough queues the past coupla days...

Ryan A

01-15-2007, 09:39 AM

so what are the five overcrowded servers? I might have a character on one of those. Is Shadowsong one? Lord knows i've been waiting in enough queues the past coupla days...

Go into "Account Management" from the worldofwarcraft.com page and follow the character transfer link. It will list the characters you have eligible for transfer. There's also a link there that lists the servers. It's only a few servers though.

Lorini

01-15-2007, 09:49 AM

I just transferred my 60 lock, Atsumy, and my 60 mage, Mayveena, to Arathor from Thorium Brotherhood. Cost me $50, but I really want to start doing 5 mans with people who know what they are doing :). I'll hook up with you guys as soon as I'm on when one of the Qt3 people are on.

Lorini

dannimal

01-15-2007, 09:51 AM

The "Character Move" (free, off overcrowded servers) and "Transfer" (you pay) are different links/paths.

So they open up a new server, to address queues/overcrowding of groups of servers but then allow anyone to do a paid transfer to them, but don't allow anyone to make a new character on them? That seems goofy. I thought the only option at the start was to do a free move. Then, once enough people had gotten off the source servers, they'd open the target up to the general populous.

Rywill

01-15-2007, 10:00 AM

So they open up a new server, to address queues/overcrowding of groups of servers but then allow anyone to do a paid transfer to them, but don't allow anyone to make a new character on them? That seems goofy. I thought the only option at the start was to do a free move. Then, once enough people had gotten off the source servers, they'd open the target up to the general populous.
No, you can pay to move. I paid $25 and moved my 35 Shaman from Thunderlord to Arathor.

Jeff and Lorini, we'd love to have you guys. Get to Arathor, do a /who quarter, and ask for a guild invite.

Jeff Green

01-15-2007, 10:00 AM

yeah, so Shadowsong is on the list, and I have 4 toons there---all Alliance!
But I have a lvl 14 Undead dude, Bozoid, on another server that I can move for free, so I'll do that.

Jason Cross

01-15-2007, 11:58 AM

I thought the only option at the start was to do a free move. Then, once enough people had gotten off the source servers, they'd open the target up to the general populous.

That's exactly what they do. New character creation is opened up on the target servers when they end the free character transfers off overcrowded servers (which is the 19th in this case - or earlier if they meet their quota of moved characters).

Equis

01-18-2007, 12:21 AM

Hey guys.

Just managed to get my lvl 53 Tauren Druid transferred over to Arathor.

Given I haven't played this game for almost more than a year, I'm going to be acting like a complete newbie. So I hope you guys don't mind if ask for help every once in a while.

With any luck, I should have everything ready to play by Friday night, Pacific time.

Cheers

Gordon Cameron

01-18-2007, 12:24 AM

so what are the five overcrowded servers? I might have a character on one of those. Is Shadowsong one? Lord knows i've been waiting in enough queues the past coupla days...

I know Bronzebeard and Moonrunner are two of them.

Rywill

01-18-2007, 06:52 AM

Equis, you're more than welcome. Just do a /who quarter and ask for an invite.

The list of servers that funnel to Arathor:

Skywall
Silvermoon
Moonrunner
Suramar
Bronzebeard

Stroker Ace

01-18-2007, 07:21 AM

I have a 60 Druid on Mal'Ganis that's collecting dust. M'G is overloaded so I checked the free transfer page and my only destination option was "The Underbog". Oh well. M'G is due for a forced split soon, too.

Supertanker

01-18-2007, 03:29 PM

Since my 32 undead priest was so lonely over on Madoran, I paid to move him to Arathor. He's pure shadow though, so hopefully he can go on the no-healing runs when he's old enough.

Gordon Cameron

01-18-2007, 03:42 PM

He's pure shadow though, so hopefully he can go on the no-healing runs when he's old enough.

Shut up and innervate me.

Oh wait, wrong class.

Cold Blooded

01-18-2007, 03:54 PM

Possible to join guild de novo?

What classes does guild need?

Sebmolo

01-18-2007, 03:55 PM

Supertanker

01-18-2007, 04:08 PM

Shut up and innervate me.

Oh wait, wrong class.

Vampiric Touch ain't too far off, though.

TheRock

01-18-2007, 04:10 PM

OMG. My new GF has been out of work the past 3 days and every night I have to go over and comfort her..now, she has surgery tomorrow and I have to stay with her the next 3 days to take care of her....just when I get BC installed and ready to bolt my new D. Warrior and BE Warlock to 10.....mmmm...I have excess Vicodin from my surgery...I wonder how much it would take for 3 days of sleeeeep.

Gordon Cameron

01-18-2007, 04:32 PM

Possible to join guild de novo?

What classes does guild need?

Good lord, yes, join away. We are a little light on healers Hordeside at the moment (compared to the plethora of priests and pallies that Drop Bears/ally has got), but seriously roll whatever you want.

Alan Dunkin

01-18-2007, 05:02 PM

Will probably be joining up in a week or two myself, not right at the moment. Do want to get in on some fun though, will have to roll up all new toons though.

--- Alan

Rywill

01-18-2007, 06:04 PM

Possible to join guild de novo?
Definitely. Just ask us for a guild invite.

What classes does guild need?
Anything you like. We're sort of specialists at making nontraditional parties work :)

Mastema

01-18-2007, 09:16 PM

Jason Cross

01-18-2007, 09:44 PM

So I'm trying to roll up a Horde character on Arathor (currently Low population) and every char I try to make I get an error that reads: "Creation of that race and/or class is currently disabled."

Is the server closed to non-transfers or something?

I think we went over this already, if not in this thread then in another. But, yes.

When blizzard has free character transfers, the target server is locked to new characters until the free transfer is over. Which is tomorrow (the 19th) at like 11am.

If you want, you can create a character on another server like Moonrunner or Silvermoon and then use the free transfer to bring it to Arathor. But hurry, because again, free transfer is about to end.

Oh, and BTW, you can't create a new character on ANY server while there's a queue on it. So creating a new guy on moonrunner/silvermoon/skywall/etc might be tough, depending on the time of day. Might just want to wait until tomorrow afternoon when the free transfers are over.

Rywill

01-18-2007, 10:05 PM

It's actually locked until 11 PM, not 11 AM. And it's Pacific Time, so it might be even later for many folks. So basically until Saturday.

Jason Cross

01-19-2007, 02:23 PM

It's actually locked until 11 PM, not 11 AM. And it's Pacific Time, so it might be even later for many folks. So basically until Saturday.

Just as an update:

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=65019653&sid=1

The transfers to Arathor from those five realms are running until NEXT Friday, the 26th. I would assume that means no new characters until then. So the best option for making a new character is to get on one of the five crowded source servers at a time when there's no queue (good luck), make one, and transfer it.

Please refer to our notes about how transfer only take 5-10 minutes tops, and if you're still "pending" after 20 minutes, cancel and resubmit. I had to do it 4 times but it definitely works - don't pay attention to that huge wait time they tell you.

Rywill

01-19-2007, 02:46 PM

Argh I hadn't noticed that. That is REALLY annoying. I wish they would just open up the server to new character creation. Having the new-character lock overlap so significantly with the opening of TBC (when everyone wants to try a new character) is just the height of idiocy.

Mastema

01-19-2007, 02:57 PM

So last night I made a horde char on Moonrunner and transferred him over (what a headache that was... every page in the 5 step process was overloaded). So as of now I have a level 6 Blood Elf priest named Aenorn... hope to see you guys around!

Rywill

01-19-2007, 03:14 PM

My 1 BE Hunter is sitting on Arathor after doing the Moonrunner Shuffle, so I hope to get some time with him this weekend.

Alan Dunkin

01-19-2007, 03:15 PM

I don't suppose adding Burning Crusade gives you an extra free month does it?

--- Alan

Athryn

01-19-2007, 03:41 PM

I don't suppose adding Burning Crusade gives you an extra free month does it?

--- Alan

Nope..

Alan Dunkin

01-19-2007, 06:30 PM

...of course not. Felt silly asking but there you go.

--- Alan

Rywill

01-20-2007, 02:19 PM

TheRock

01-21-2007, 09:32 AM

Whats up with no Paladin trainer in Org? OMG, I just hit 10 and now have to zep over to UC...I was all set to level quickly in the Barrens, now it just makes it a pain.

Jason Cross

01-22-2007, 10:50 AM

Some of us are planning a big Hellfire run tomorrow (Sunday) if folks are interested, probably in the afternoon pacific time.

The economy on Arathor is insane. I sold a stack of 20 fel iron for 20 gold. I know we have jewelers, engineers, and smiths who could use it (including me), but everyone should consider auctioning raw materials. You can probably AH a ton of mats in the next month, then buy back all the same quantities once things have settled down, and make a huge profit.

Yeah, it seems like a big bottleneck for stalled-out smiths and jewelcrafters will be thorium. I might do thorium runs for no reason other than to sell it - I bet I can get a fortune.

I put a whole mess of cut gems on the AH last night, in part to see if they can sell (for about 6-8 gold apiece).

FWIW Rywill, Allakhazam lists the median price for a stack of 20 Fel Iron at 40 gold. You shoulda asked for more. ;)

Kunikos

01-22-2007, 02:49 PM

Whats up with no Paladin trainer in Org? OMG, I just hit 10 and now have to zep over to UC...I was all set to level quickly in the Barrens, now it just makes it a pain.

There's no druid trainer in IF and no warlock trainer in Darn, so big deal? :) I'm curious, I bet there is no shaman trainer in one of the three Alliance cities as well.

Athryn

01-22-2007, 03:00 PM

There's no druid trainer in IF and no warlock trainer in Darn, so big deal? :) I'm curious, I bet there is no shaman trainer in one of the three Alliance cities as well.

Yeah, the only alliance shaman trainer is in the exodar. Also, on the horde side, there's no warlock trainer in Thunder Bluff, no Hunter trainer in Undercity, and no Warrior trainer in Silvermoon, but there is a Druid trainer there.

The main reason there's no paladin/sham trainers is the same reason there are only jewelcrafting trainers in outlands and the new capital cities, which is that they wanted the new content in places that only the expansion people had access to.

TheRock

01-22-2007, 03:09 PM

The main reason there's no paladin/sham trainers is the same reason there are only jewelcrafting trainers in outlands and the new capital cities, which is that they wanted the new content in places that only the expansion people had access to.

Well, you have to have the expansion to have access to the Pally/Shaman so who cares if there are trainers in the cities for the people without the expansion. Two Pally trainers in the East and none in the West...a bit retarded.

TheRock

01-22-2007, 03:10 PM

There's no druid trainer in IF and no warlock trainer in Darn, so big deal? :) I'm curious, I bet there is no shaman trainer in one of the three Alliance cities as well.

Uh, I don't care about the Alliance Scum....give me my Org Pally trainer.

On a stupid side note....I leveled up my BE Pally to 6, then headed out to the world...didnt know how to get to UC so I ran South, ended up having to run through both Plaguelands to get to Tristfall....I'm an idiot.

Athryn

05-13-2010, 08:43 AM

ARISE!

There are a number of Drop Bears people that wanted to get a headstart on Horde shenanigans, but I am not sure who has invite privs, so is there someone who can help out? :D

It's hard for me to coordinate anything since I'm not actually playing the game myself. :)

Lorini

05-13-2010, 09:37 AM

Athryn

05-13-2010, 09:40 AM

You mean with the Quarter To Three guild on Arathor? Or a Horde guild on Moonrunner?

Well, this was the only arathor-relevant thread I could find, so it would be the QT3 guild on Arathor. It would make the most sense to continue to refer QT3 type people who want to play horde to the QT3 guild there, especially since things will become very active once Cataclysm comes out.

I don't have any characters in the Arathor guild myself, since my Horde are still all on Greymane, and I really don't play them enough (when I was playing) to justify moving them again. And, I'm not playing, so I can't really do anything to invite people, or I would! :D

So yeah, if there's someone that's active over there (and it looks like a couple of people are) let me know, and especially if you're also in Drop Bears.

Lorini

05-13-2010, 10:57 AM

Athryn

05-13-2010, 12:55 PM

There have been 8 characters on in the last 3 weeks so I don't know that anyone should transfer to Arathor looking for Horde activity. I don't know what to tell you. My bank alt is in the Quarter to Three guild but it's been years since the guild was actively raiding.

It's not a matter of raiding or transfering anything like that, it's a matter of being able to direct QT3 people to the official unofficial horde guild, which was the one on Arathor. :) People are rolling some DKs to get prepared for Cataclysm, when you will see eleventy billion people rolling goblin characters to play around in the new zones.

It would make sense to point everyone to Arathor, as opposed to just having people roll yet another splinter guild. It's a good way to revitalize that guild.

Rochmoninoff

05-13-2010, 03:30 PM

All goblin.
All the time.
Horde guild.
And we're taking over.

Wazzup?!!

MsWidget

07-25-2010, 09:46 AM

I've been messing around on Arathor lately with a couple characters in the Quarter to Three guild. It's nice to have a little company while leveling and running around :)

-Vallia (etc) of Drop Bears, Moonrunner
-Valmaura (etc) of Quarter to Three, Arathor

Adam Sensoy

07-25-2010, 09:56 AM

Is there a free character move to moonrunner or arathor? I have a character with the drop bears, but would rather keep trying to get to 55 with my Mage

MsWidget

07-25-2010, 10:23 AM

no, I don't believe either realm is eligible for a free move. Sorry.

Nathan Phoenix

07-26-2010, 03:16 PM

What is Drop Bears all about these days? Casual or hardcore? What sort of raiding do you guys do?

I'm just curious because my wife and I are having a hard time finding a good guild fit on our server, but we have fairly odd requirements that we're looking for in a guild (we like to raid, but can only do so every other weekend, and we like to be around people with a minimum of competence). We've found a guild on our server that offers the former, but sadly not the latter, making only the first four in ICC a given, despite the 30% buff.

I have no idea if you guys would be a good fit or not but I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask.

Marcus

07-26-2010, 03:19 PM

Casual with the hard to the core.

There is pretty much a raid going every night and if there isn't you could pretty easily schedule one and get it all filled up. The guild is pretty active all in all.

Athryn

07-26-2010, 03:20 PM

Drop Bears are very competent, there are a lot of retired hardcore raiding types. You should just visit the website and check out the forums!

Adam B

07-26-2010, 03:22 PM

Drop Bears is Alliance side, right? And open to bringing in QT3ers for some company while they level, etc?

Nathan Phoenix

07-26-2010, 03:29 PM

I'll check it out. How is alliance PVP there? On our server we rarely have wintergrasp, for example, due to almost always being severely outnumbered.

Athryn

07-26-2010, 03:29 PM

Drop Bears is Alliance side, right? And open to bringing in QT3ers for some company while they level, etc?

Yep!! (http://dropbearsguild.garoun.net/forum/index.php)

Last time I paid attention it changed hands frequently. Alliance outnumbers Horde.

I'll check it out.

Heh, it seems like you used to be in the guild at some point as it is!

Adam Sensoy

07-26-2010, 03:40 PM

Yep!! (http://dropbearsguild.garoun.net/forum/index.php)

Last time I paid attention it changed hands frequently. Alliance outnumbers Horde.

Heh, it seems like you used to be in the guild at some point as it is!

I really want to play with you guys in Cata, but I just really want to try a DK. Athryn, how long would you estimate it would take me from 45-55 with a mage if I am reasonably competent?

Tyjenks

07-26-2010, 03:44 PM

Am I confused? Is this not the Horde Qt3 guild thread?

Adam B

07-26-2010, 03:44 PM

Pff. A week? 45-55 ain't bad. Look up a leveling guide if you must, but really it shouldn't be too terribly difficult.

Athryn

07-26-2010, 03:48 PM

I really want to play with you guys in Cata, but I just really want to try a DK. Athryn, how long would you estimate it would take me from 45-55 with a mage if I am reasonably competent?

I agree with Adam B. A week or less even. Heck, with the new dungeon finder thingy, you can actually get instance groups!

Am I confused? Is this not the Horde Qt3 guild thread?

All threads are Drop Bear threads.

Nathan Phoenix

07-26-2010, 03:49 PM

Heh, it seems like you used to be in the guild at some point as it is!

Why do you say that? To my knowledge I've never done anything on Moonrunner.

Athryn

07-26-2010, 03:53 PM

Why do you say that? To my knowledge I've never done anything on Moonrunner.

Hmm, I thought you used to be Lokust? Never mind then!

Nathan Phoenix

07-26-2010, 04:04 PM

I was Lokust, but I don't remember ever playing there.

As far as I can tell I created an account on your message board in 2007 but never posted, so maybe I was just looking into it then.

Adam Sensoy

07-26-2010, 06:41 PM

I agree with Adam B. A week or less even. Heck, with the new dungeon finder thingy, you can actually get instance groups!

All threads are Drop Bear threads.

Thanks guys, I will get on it as soon as I finish up Dragon Age!

Daagar

07-27-2010, 04:18 PM

I agree with Adam B. A week or less even. Heck, with the new dungeon finder thingy, you can actually get instance groups!

Well, sorta. He's a mage (aka, not-tank/not-heals), so LFG is pretty painful. I try to supplement my hunter leveling with some LFG runs, and it can take 20-35min to get in a group. Yay DPS!

But 45-55 is maybe 10-12hours? It can vary a bit with rested XP/heirlooms and all that, but not bad regardless.

Adam Sensoy

07-27-2010, 08:02 PM

Well, sorta. He's a mage (aka, not-tank/not-heals), so LFG is pretty painful. I try to supplement my hunter leveling with some LFG runs, and it can take 20-35min to get in a group. Yay DPS!

But 45-55 is maybe 10-12hours? It can vary a bit with rested XP/heirlooms and all that, but not bad regardless.

Well I have a 45 mage, 44 warrior, and 32 rogue, so i figured the mage would be the fastest to get to 55, which is really what I want to do by Cata (Though I would like to play my rogue with the new talent trees).

This is how long I have been away: I don't have a clue what heirloom items are!

Nathan Phoenix

07-27-2010, 08:14 PM

Heirloom items are currently only obtainable at level 80, but are items that are bind to account - meaning you can mail them to any of your characters on that server (and supposedly in the future, any of your characters on any server). They will always be of the quality of an appropriate level blue, and they level with you without you having to do anything. They also never need to be repaired. In addition, many heirloom items have a bonus to experience earned from kills and quests that stacks with other heirlooms that have said bonuses. To say that they help you level faster is an understatement. It's pretty easy to get 20% bonus experience earned, and having blue quality shoulders/chest/weapons/trinkets at low level is very powerful.

Tyjenks

07-28-2010, 09:28 AM

11:30pm is the new 2:45am for me and I have done that most of the last 4 days or so since I re-subbed. Boo! and Yay! at the same time.

Still so far out of the gear loop and I have no idea what my 5 bags full of crap is for.

I have 2,000g, which I forget if it is a lot or not with the WoW inflation or really how I got it.

Have not touched my 5 alts of various levels.

Missing some mods. DOn't know what they are. And my quest mod I am using is confusing me.

I deleted a quest item (in some quest line) I was using and now cannot turn it in. (Surely I can dump the quest and restart).

So much work and so little time, but loving it.

Periastron

07-28-2010, 09:40 AM

Tyjenks

07-28-2010, 10:38 AM

I moved my ret pally alt to Moonrunner to join the fun, and I've been enjoying my stay with the Drop Bears so far. Why, there are actually guild people online when I log in! Lots of them! All the time! I like this. :)
Since I joined several years ago it has done nothing, but grow and not everyone is just let in. There is a trial basis/vetting process. Guilds will always have drama, people will come in and out, but Axebeard and the rest keep it to a low roar. The majority of folks there are insanely knowledgeable and helpful. They are loyal and always around.

seventimessix

07-28-2010, 11:59 AM

Missing some mods. DOn't know what they are. And my quest mod I am using is confusing me.

Don't use a quest mod, the new Blizzard quest UI is fantastic and does everything something like Quest Helper used to do with no setup.

Tyjenks

07-28-2010, 12:06 PM

Don't use a quest mod, the new Blizzard quest UI is fantastic and does everything something like Quest Helper used to do with no setup.
Ahh, I think maybe the overlap of the two is what has me confused. Thanks 7x6!

Adam Sensoy

07-29-2010, 11:43 AM

Nathan Phoenix

07-29-2010, 12:05 PM

Don't use a quest mod, the new Blizzard quest UI is fantastic and does everything something like Quest Helper used to do with no setup.

I'm still a big fan of carbonite and I love how it shows quest mob zones on the map

Tyjenks

07-29-2010, 01:16 PM

After stripping out Questhelper, the WoW quest help is certainly better than before, obviously. I forgot that I had previously used Carbonite as my crutch and realize now that I miss it. Like Nathan says, it has some nice extras and I had become accustomed to them.

mouselock

07-29-2010, 02:18 PM

Don't use a quest mod, the new Blizzard quest UI is fantastic and does everything something like Quest Helper used to do with no setup.

The blizzard quest UI pops up an on-screen arrow to guide you toward your destination? I do agree that the map areas shading is nicer under the blizzard quest UI, but since that requires bringing up the (large) map to use I find it to be relatively clunky.

Lorini

07-29-2010, 04:19 PM

They are adding the arrow in Cataclysm, last I saw. I use TomTom plus Lightheaded instead of Questhelper and/or Carbonite. I only use Carbonite to route gathering routes now.

Daagar

07-29-2010, 04:52 PM

Carbonite still has the amazingly nice feature of coloring the map to show where quests mobs are. And I found it almost mandatory for finishing up Loremaster, but that's cause I'm lazy.

(The reason it helps for Loremaster is that its quest database not only lists all quests, but knows which ones are part of chains, and can show where the chain starts/etc.)

seventimessix

07-29-2010, 05:12 PM

The blizzard quest UI pops up an on-screen arrow to guide you toward your destination?

You know, I prefer to have at least a little challenge, having a big arrow telling me where to go all the time is boring ;-)

I'm familiar enough with most zones to know my way around them pretty well, I do like exploring still, and the quest UI is still miles better than it used to be and 95% of the time gives me enough info to figure it out. The other 5% I just ask my wife what to do. She can't remember what streets stores we go to every week are on but she can remember the details of every quest she's ever done.