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Chris Nahr
10-04-2006, 03:05 AM
More treason from Bruce Schneier (http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2006/10/this_is_what_vi.html)!

On an American Airlines flight, a British architect got grabbed and searched by a passenger claiming to be a police officer while the other passengers and crew looked on. Reason? Apparently his holiday tan (http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article1777847.ece)!

In Mr Stein's case, he was pounced on as the crew and other travellers looked on. The drama unfolded less than an hour into the flight. As he settled down with a book and a ginger ale, the father-of-three was grabbed from behind and held in a head-lock.

"This guy just told me his name was Michael Wilk, that he was with the New York Police Department, that I'd been acting suspiciously and should stay calm. I could barely find my voice and couldn't believe it was happening," said Mr Stein.

"He went into my pocket and took out my passport and my iPod. All the other passengers were looking concerned." Eventually, cabin crew explained that the captain had run a security check on Mr Stein after being alerted by the policeman and that this had cleared him. The passenger had been asked to go back to his seat before he had restrained Mr Stein. When the plane arrived in New York, Mr Stein was met by apologetic police officers who offered to fast-track him out of the airport.

And at a Seattle airport, a man was questioned by the police and missed his flight because he dared to speak Tamil on the phone. He sure has learned his lesson (http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/287261_tamil02ww.html), though!

But Parker had no explanation as to why a man speaking Tamil, which is spoken worldwide, would be considered suspicious. The person who contacted airport officials could give an answer to that question, he added.

Parker said the man was cooperative and boarded a later flight to Texas. He told officials that he would not speak in a foreign language on his cell phone at an airport in the future.

Brendan
10-04-2006, 03:16 AM
Xenophobia For The Win!

Midnight Son
10-04-2006, 04:01 AM
What, am I supposed to be pale and pasty now?

cliffski
10-04-2006, 04:16 AM
I'm flying through the US to central america next month. by far, the only part of my holiday Im dreading is the airport security farce and US customs. I wouldnt be suprised if holiday travel to the US is nosediving these days ;(

DerekSnider
10-04-2006, 04:16 AM
What, am I supposed to be pale and pasty now?

.Yes.

malphigian
10-04-2006, 06:48 AM
Xenophobia For The Win!

I would have thought so too! But thanks to Spoofychop's response last time this happened (http://www.quartertothree.com/game-talk/showpost.php?p=731859&postcount=6), I now know that jumping people for speaking Tamil or being too tan is perfectly reasonable.

If you want to ride a plane without being inconvenienced, you should take the time to make sure you are clearly identifiable as a white christian and speak only english. Is that really so hard?

Midnight Son
10-04-2006, 09:12 AM
.... and while talking to your homies in line for a plane don't use terms like: "She's da Bomb, yo!"

Athryn
10-04-2006, 10:03 AM
There was a Spanish man a couple weeks ago who was accosted by some passengers aboard a German airline and put through something similar ... he ended up having to put his carryon luggage in the cockpit with the pilot. He's now suing the airline for the way he was treated.

I normally hate to see people suing, but I hope more of these people that get harassed start suing.

Jasper
10-04-2006, 04:20 PM
If something like this happened to me I'd go berserk with lawyers, newspapers, congressmen, anyone who'd listen. Sue the police officer, his department, the fucking state.

You need considerably more justification before you assualt someone, or at least you do outside of a police state. If stuff like this is let slide, it will keep getting worse.

[Edit] D'oh! Damn it, that's what you get for waking up late and just skimming to save time! I'd still sue the fucker, and the airline too, just not the "police officer".

Hanzii
10-04-2006, 04:26 PM
That's why I go out of my way (and pay more for my tickets) to avoid changing planes or staying anytime longer than absolutely necessary in an American airport.
And I'm as pale as they come.

Dave47
10-04-2006, 04:42 PM
Isn't it a crime to:
1) Impresonate a police officer.
2) Exercise police powers outside your state / town / county.
3) Assault someone.
4) Disrupt a flight by creating the impression of a dangerous situation.

I guess my question is: If this story is true, shouldn't this Wilk guy be in custody right now?

Robert Sharp
10-04-2006, 04:48 PM
I have blue eyes, so I should be safe right? Right!?

Ergo
10-04-2006, 04:58 PM
What color is your skin?

Jojo
10-04-2006, 09:43 PM
Since I can't read the full Independent article without paying, I'm not clear whether Wilk actually was a police officer or not?

Chris Nahr
10-05-2006, 12:23 AM
I couldn't read the full article either but my impression was that he was a former police officer and his buddies in active service covered up for him.

Cosmic Hippo
10-05-2006, 01:01 PM
I haven't had to fly recently, but I'm naturally kind of dark-skinned. If I see ANY sun, lose the "kind of." I also sometimes look like a sketchy fucker.

Last Summer, I worked as a canvasser for a liberal citizens' political action group. Yes, I was one of the scum of the Earth, going door to door and talking about politics. I got the cops called on me FOUR TIMES in four completely differentareas for being a "foreign-looking guy wandering the neighborhood with a clipboard." It became a running joke at the office, but it was still pretty annoying. Especially when I was talking to a cop while he was in his car, and the station radio'd in information about the previous times this had happened with me and the organization in question.

Johan123
10-05-2006, 06:19 PM
We need to be sure to be fair, and to stop 80-year-old grandmothers as they go through security as well as young Middle-Easterners with one-way tickets purchased with cash.

Yeah...that's it.

Robert Sharp
10-05-2006, 07:26 PM
What color is your skin?

Ecrue.

Bill Dungsroman
10-05-2006, 09:09 PM
I have blue eyes, so I should be safe right? Right!?
Not from me you're not, Sister!

marxeil
10-09-2006, 01:05 AM
We need to be sure to be fair, and to stop 80-year-old grandmothers as they go through security as well as young Middle-Easterners with one-way tickets purchased with cash.

Yeah...that's it.
Well actually last time I was in a US airport I saw just that. A burly security officers scanning an 80-year-old-Caucasian-blue-haired-grandmother with her arms outstretched, while her shoes were screened for explosives or something.

Chris Nahr
10-11-2006, 01:19 AM
More terrorism! Terrorist jelly threatens German roads (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6035821.stm)!

A pile of jelly left by a road in Germany caused a major security alert after it was mistaken for toxic waste.

A large area near the town of Halle was cordoned off after a "flabby red, orange and green substance" was found by the road, Reuters reported.

Fire officers in protective suits spent two hours inspecting the substance before concluding it was jelly. [...]

The spillage was traced to a wedding party. The newly-wed groom, who was woken up and informed of the alert, promised to clean up the mess.

foogla
10-11-2006, 03:16 AM
More terrorism! Terrorist jelly threatens German roads (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6035821.stm)!

Duh! Toxic waste glows green and not red, everybody knows that!

Morkilus
10-11-2006, 03:25 PM
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c218/Morkilus/slime.jpg