Hammer Ons / Pull Offs in Guitar Hero

[DrCrypt]

Can anyone suggest to me a good easy or medium mode song in Guitar Hero to practice hammers ons and pull offs? I've done the tutorials dozens of times, but it just doesn't give me enough time to get comfortable with it.

[Gendal]

Lots of people recommend the Stevie Ray Vaugn song "Texas Flood", but I wouldn't know, they completely defeat me. I just do everything with out them, which means I can't beat the the ozzy song on hard or expert and my hands hurt like mad after an hour of playing.

[Lizard_King]

I could use some advice in this as well. I had to bring in the big guns (read: my wife the classical violinist) to even attempt Bark at the Moon for more than 20 seconds. Where does one find the middle ground on this shit?

[r________]

Texas Flood seems like a horrible choice for learning HO/POs. It is too rhythmically complex. I would recommend something like Fat Lip, which has many repeated, short, easy HO and PO sequences. You might have to go up to at least Hard to get them, though.

[Wholly Schmidt]

If you get comfortable with them on the easy or medium mode, more power to you. I haven't had to use them until the hard mode, and now I wish I was better with them. I'm using Frankenstein on hard difficulty in quick play to work on them, because right now Crossroads on hard has halted my progress for a couple days.

Edit: And when I say I'm practicing Frankenstein, I'm not doing the whole song. I just started trying it in my last session, and I never made it past about the 25% mark, but that's fine for now because it's all hammer ons and pull offs right at the begining.

[Not One Of Us]

I can do the simpler ones, like on parts of More Than a Feeling and the main riff of Cochise (the first blue-to-orange part, as I still strum the rest), but not much beyond that. Hell, I've gotten 98% of the way through on Bark at the Moon before finally going too deep in the red (yay (?) for star power).

From what I can tell with my playing on MTAF and Cochise is not to let up or put on too early. Such on Cochise, I first found myself hitting the orange too early. I would strum blue and then immediately after hit the orange, in a bit of a panic. After some experimenting, I gave myself more of a pause before hammering on the orange, and it seems to work.

So you might want to try to make sure you're not hammering on or pulling off too fast; try and slow yourself down as it seems it's better to be late than early.


* All references to Expert mode.

[DrCrypt]

I haven't tested this, but I think it'll work: multiplayer mode? You can't get booted from the stage for sucking, from what I understand. So plug in a second controller and try practicing them in multiplayer.

[Midnight Son]

I could use some advice in this as well. I had to bring in the big guns (read: my wife the classical violinist) to even attempt Bark at the Moon for more than 20 seconds. Where does one find the middle ground on this shit?

Holy shit! We have a classically trained violinist wife in common! (That would be the only thing.) I must say she pretty much kicks my ass in Guitar Hero. I'll get better.......

[Wholly Schmidt]

I haven't tested this, but I think it'll work: multiplayer mode? You can't get booted from the stage for sucking, from what I understand. So plug in a second controller and try practicing them in multiplayer.
I've tested it, it sorta works. You won't get kicked off, but you won't get to practice the whole song either because it goes back and forth between which player is playing. You'll only get to practice some parts of the song.

[Lizard_King]

Holy shit! We have a classically trained violinist wife in common! (That would be the only thing.) I must say she pretty much kicks my ass in Guitar Hero. I'll get better.......

She's well on her way to beating it on hard after attempting each song max twice. I stalled out somewhere on the latter end of medium. She keeps taunting me with "Don't you want to play" in the midst of hard, as if my pinky and ringfinger weren't woefully underdeveloped after years of being neglected by traditional controllers.

I did read in PSM that GH 2-6 are planned to come out in the coming year alone, including (wait for it!) a country music edition. So that should guaranteee that I have a little more room to catch up without just playing "Symphony for Destruction" again and again.

[Joel]

I did read in PSM that GH 2-6 are planned to come out in the coming year alone, including (wait for it!) a country music edition. So that should guaranteee that I have a little more room to catch up without just playing "Symphony for Destruction" again and again.

I'm pretty sure that rumor is baseless. I asked one of the developers directly about that at GDC and he said that while they'll almost certainly do a sequel after finding so much success, there really aren't any plans yet. And he specifically denied the whole 'Guitar Hero: $genre' rumor.

Of course, he could have just been misdirecting, but that wasn't my impression.

[Lizard_King]

I'm pretty sure that rumor is baseless. I asked one of the developers directly about that at GDC and he said that while they'll almost certainly do a sequel after finding so much success, there really aren't any plans yet. And he specifically denied the whole 'Guitar Hero: $genre' rumor.

Of course, he could have just been misdirecting, but that wasn't my impression.
Huh. That's odd. I'll have to look at the article directly when I get back, but I am pretty sure it had direct quotes (allegedly) and the whole deal. Ain't that a bitch.

[Wholly Schmidt]

There is a Karaoke Revolution country version that's already out.

[Lizard_King]

It was pretty much like this article (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=63136)
Those of you tired of us banging on so much about Guitar Hero a month before you can even buy it in the UK (April 7th remember!) will be pleased to hear that we ought to be banging on about it for at least another couple of years, as Kelly Sumner, CEO of publisher RedOctane, has told MCV we'll see a further "five or six" titles by the middle of 2007.

"We are working on Guitar Hero 2, which will have 40-plus new tracks," Sumner told MCV. He also confirmed that genre spin-offs including Country Rock for the US and a Metal edition are on the cards. He even pointed to further possibilities for the peripheral, adding, "you could absolutely do a plug and play version".

[Joel]

Huh!

Huh!

[Lizard_King]

When was it that you spoke to him? (I don't know when GDC is...)

I know game mags are filthy lying whores, but PSM was reporting it as a sure thing, not as a vague rumor.

[Joel]

Last month. Perhaps there are discussions going on at Red Octane that Harmonix' yeomen aren't privy to.

Anyway, I'd be happy to be wrong!

[TriggerHappy]

I haven't tested this, but I think it'll work: multiplayer mode? You can't get booted from the stage for sucking, from what I understand. So plug in a second controller and try practicing them in multiplayer.

Just use the 'cheat' code to give yourself full Green rock-meter. It disables saving your game, but you'll be able to practice as much as you want, and not just certain parts of the song.

[Lizard_King]

It didn't even cross my mind that there would be a cheat code for this game. That is a great solution. Thanks.

Also, what is the deal with unlockables only being used in the difficulty level you got them in? FUCK. This game is definitely geared at my wife and not at me.

[Midnight Son]

There is the "Unlock All" cheat code so you can access all the songs. Texas Flood rocks in easy! :-)

[TriggerHappy]

You can play Texas Flood in easy without any cheats, you just have to gain access to it in Medium difficulty first. Then it'll show up in quick play, and all the songs in quick play can be played at any difficulty.