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Andrew Mayer
12-17-2005, 02:23 PM
So the president has now announced that he is actively commiting unconstitutional acts wrapped in a cloak of kingly executive privelidge and claims of a need for immediacy, despite this being addressed in the existing powers (http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/007276.php).

In my mind we've reached at the precipice of a constitutional crisis where we must ask ourselves whether we stand for king or country.

The seperation of powers that defines our country seems to be under attack by the executive. Will our congress do anything about it?

What happens next?

Matthew Gallant
12-17-2005, 02:30 PM
Will our congress do anything about it?
No.

Will 2006's?

Chris Nahr
12-17-2005, 02:31 PM
I shall remain loyal to the Republic, the Senate, and the Chancellor... err, president! Don't you turn against me!

Unicorn McGriddle
12-17-2005, 03:10 PM
Will our congress do anything about it?
No.

Will 2006's?

Not bloody likely.

Rob Beschizza
12-17-2005, 06:57 PM
This situation is how I would imagine the end of the Roman Republic would have been, if Steve Carrell was playing Caesar.

Squirrel Killer
12-17-2005, 07:51 PM
Seriously, this is getting way the fuck out of hand (http://www.southcoasttoday.com/daily/12-05/12-17-05/a09lo650.htm).

Rob Beschizza
12-17-2005, 08:04 PM
Just so you all know, the traditional point at which it becomes prudent to transfer one's assets and buy a ticket out of dodge is when folks start to disappear.

JMR
12-17-2005, 09:33 PM
Just so you all know, the traditional point at which it becomes prudent to transfer one's assets and buy a ticket out of dodge is when folks start to disappear.

It's already happening.

http://www.x-entertainment.com/articles/0916/b/16.jpg

Toddy
12-17-2005, 11:05 PM
Seriously, this is getting way the fuck out of hand (http://www.southcoasttoday.com/daily/12-05/12-17-05/a09lo650.htm).

Wow. And someone should really start connecting the dots, because obviously Jesus put Bush up to monitoring the nation's ILL services. Rotten Christianity.

Andrew Mayer
12-18-2005, 12:09 AM
Seriously, this is getting way the fuck out of hand (http://www.southcoasttoday.com/daily/12-05/12-17-05/a09lo650.htm).

Wow. And someone should really start connecting the dots, because obviously Jesus put Bush up to monitoring the nation's ILL services. Rotten Christianity.


And triple fuck you!

Unicorn McGriddle
12-18-2005, 12:11 AM
Are you going to be doing this in every single active thread, Brett? If so, I'd like to make that a quadruple fuck you.

Jasper
12-18-2005, 01:58 AM
Seriously, this is getting way the fuck out of hand (http://www.southcoasttoday.com/daily/12-05/12-17-05/a09lo650.htm).
WTF, that's insane. [Edit: although no more so than domestic spying by the NSA, military, and I bet CIA as well]

Not a source I'm used to though, and I haven't seen the story come up elsewhere (although I've been lax reading news recently). Anybody seen it from another source?

The combination of red scare and domestic spying is truly over the top, and (assuming it's true) hopefully enough to wake some key people up. May the fillibuster of the "Patriot" Act stick, and then some.

Midnight Son
12-18-2005, 03:25 AM
My loyalty is to my country. Bush is a dictator clothed in the vestments of a moron.

Ben Sones
12-18-2005, 06:25 AM
Wow. And someone should really start connecting the dots, because obviously Jesus put Bush up to monitoring the nation's ILL services. Rotten Christianity.

I'm honestly not sure how facetious you are trying to be here, Brett. Are you actually okay with the idea of the government maintaining a "watchlist" of dangerous books and sending federal agents to interrogate people who read them, or was this post just a kneejerk reaction for you?

wisefool
12-18-2005, 08:30 PM
If I had any guts, I'd go to the library, ask for the little red book, Mein Kampf, and any other lovelies I could think of.

If enough people do this, you end up spending lots of tax-payer dollars on investigations. You're innocent, right? Should come out okay..

TylerG
12-19-2005, 02:46 AM
You're innocent, right? Should come out okay..

Or you could be abducted for months and when they finally find out you're innocent get dumped blind-folded in the deep forest, mountainous triangle area between Albania, Serbia and Macedonia with no money or identification like Khaled al-Masri.

Flowers
12-19-2005, 07:36 AM
Speaking of the little red book, I was in a store in, I think Chicago, and I saw a parody version of the little red book with the people replaced by cats, and dogs as the capitalist villains. I didn't buy it because I didn't want to be put on the ASPCA's potential cat-lady watch list.

I sometimes wish I would get a visit from shadowy government agents, so that I can invite them in and offer them drinks, and only answer one question per shot they do. "Where was I on June 26th, 2003? That's going to be a Wild Turkey question sir, so you might want to loosen your tie..." As a suspect, I would also have to drink each time they hint at incriminating or embarassing information they have collected on me without a warrant. (With a warrant is only a sip.)
Then I will try to sleep with them. Whether I am successful or not, the typical result of such an attempt is that further contact with me is avoided. (Here's to hoping they are pretty ladies!)

I encourage all Americans to enforce their right to play the Homeland Security Drinking Game. If they won't play, tell them they are pussies and can go get fucked. No matter what prison in Jordan they take you to, you will always have that memory.

arctangent
12-19-2005, 08:09 AM
The little red book (http://art-bin.com/art/omaotoc.html)

Bring on the black helicopters. They can't get all of us!

What kind of idiots would waste the time and resources and my tax money monitoring access to a book that is widely available on the net, not to mention libraries everywhere?

Anal-retentive sexually repressed mentally challenged conservative Republicans, that's who.