View Full Version : A Fascist Speaks
Brian Koontz
12-02-2005, 11:36 PM
I have to control the situation, because there is no society anymore, its every man for himself. You ask me why I have to twist everything, why I have to interpret everything in self-serving fashion. Why shouldn't I? Why should I give any ground to YOU?
You ask me why I smile at chaos and global devastation. You conjure up idiot visions of Satan. Chaos merely means the world is starting to agree with me...
You ask me why I disrespect you... I have taken on this burden of rebuilding society, which Fascism is a part of, and you sit there with your primitive notions of an "everybody loves everyone" happyworld, your idiocy, your know-nothing, and you then wonder why Fascism has to be IMPOSED on you. The road of the future is going to be paved right over you.
And still you drivel on. You're afraid of me, and this fear only grows in the loneliness of your own empty vision. You have nothing to offer the world, and can only exist to oppose me, to stop my own creation. "We've stopped Hitler!" Congratulations... how many more of us can you stop?
Yes, I'm lonely. This loneliness will end when you've become subject to me, when your lives are happy again as the result of me. I will be your savior.
Pain? Pain is every element of rebirth, is it not? Your pain as the result of me proves my ascendence. The more pain you have, the more glory to me and ultimately to you. It is not cruelty that causes me to hurt you... its love.
I am so pleased. I see good men among you, but you ignore them. You're only focused on me, so afraid, so eager for me to do something. I'm not even sure whether you want me to succeed or fail... perhaps you're ambivalent. You speak words of resistance... do you only sometimes believe them?
Look at your heroes. "Conservative" men, men who express old-fashioned liberal values. Men who resist.
Resist away. Do what you will. With your empty vision however, even if I fall there will be others right behind me. Your resistance will be broken eventually.
Hitler... ha. Hitler was a silly man, full of little but fantasy and charisma. That he almost destroyed your world shows just how pathetic your world is.
Next time you may not be so lucky.
If any Koontz post deserved the time-koontz gif, this would be it.
BooTx
12-03-2005, 12:40 AM
I think he just admitted to being Hitler, Jesus, and Neo.
Brad Grenz
12-03-2005, 02:42 AM
Basically, He's Keanu Reaves. With a tiny mustache...
I think our little boy had his first beer.
Houngan
12-03-2005, 04:22 AM
Brian,
Sorry, I didn't read the post, but after a glance let me tell you what may be the most important thing you'll ever hear:
Nobody asked.
Thanks,
H.
BrewersDroop
12-03-2005, 04:30 AM
I love this post. I'm going to masturbate to it. Nightly.
Midnight Son
12-03-2005, 04:47 AM
Well, that did it. I'm giving up the intarweb! Goodbye.........
I love this post. I'm going to masturbate to it. Nightly.
You find it easy to masturbate to [Koontz]?
Lizard_King
12-03-2005, 08:44 AM
I love this post. I'm going to masturbate to it. Nightly.
You find it easy to masturbate to [Koontz]?
Easy? Try necessary. Turnabout is fair play, after all.
extarbags
12-03-2005, 09:03 AM
I'm going to be honest with you: I'm not a fan of this new "X Speaks" wave of Koontz threads. Is Koontz past his prime? Will he ever again produce a masterpiece on the order of Paradigm?
I'm beginning to have my doubts.
Unicorn McGriddle
12-03-2005, 09:19 AM
The really disappointing thing about the fascism of our times is that it turns its back on the potential of fascism to -- if nothing else -- be really, really cool. Instead we get half-hearted reactionaries frightened of gangs, who wear business suits and never speak extemporaneously if they can help it. Sixty years after his death, people still find Hitler fascinating. Sixty years from now, it'll probably still be Hitler, because modern Fascism's leading lights are Milquetoasts whose principal idea is that more cops equals more safety.
It's depressing! I hope somewhere out there in a tiny country nobody's heard too much about, some brave dictator is keeping old-school fascism alive.
Glenn
12-03-2005, 09:57 AM
It's depressing! I hope somewhere out there in a tiny country nobody's heard too much about, some brave dictator is keeping old-school fascism alive.
Turkmenbashi, assuming he doesn't hold elections in 2010 as he recently promised (don't worry, he won't).
extarbags
12-03-2005, 10:11 AM
It's depressing! I hope somewhere out there in a tiny country nobody's heard too much about, some brave dictator is keeping old-school fascism alive.
Turkmenbashi, assuming he doesn't hold elections in 2010 as he recently promised (don't worry, he won't).
He's not quite old-school. He's kind of old-school-fascism mixed with just wild goofiness. But he's about as close as we're going to get, these days :/.
Brian Koontz
12-03-2005, 10:06 PM
The really disappointing thing about the fascism of our times is that it turns its back on the potential of fascism to -- if nothing else -- be really, really cool. Instead we get half-hearted reactionaries frightened of gangs, who wear business suits and never speak extemporaneously if they can help it. Sixty years after his death, people still find Hitler fascinating. Sixty years from now, it'll probably still be Hitler, because modern Fascism's leading lights are Milquetoasts whose principal idea is that more cops equals more safety.
I don't have any confidence in any variant of fascism that I can conceive of. I suspect that it will take a new model to go up against democracy.
One of the problems I see with fascism is that it spends too much time thinking about "the people" and not enough time thinking about what's best. Fascism spends more time thinking about the people than democracy does, because it needs to manipulate the people to implement its policies. Once its made the people submissive it then seeks to keep them there... perpetuating its own existence. Its a sick kind of system.
What we need is a flexible means of expressing power... where anyone can emerge based on their contribution and be rewarded fairly for that contribution. This is not dissimilar to the theory of democracy, but democracy has restraints in place that prevent someone (regardless of fair reward) from getting "too much power". Its this restraint that lies at the heart of the vulnerability of democracy. Fascism, after all, glorifies the unrestrained individual... glorifies the uninihibited power of the individual as expressed in cruelty and pain and goddom.
The United States gets around the restraint with Capitalism, but Capitalism has more than its share of unfairness, and nowadays has plenty of restraints of its own.
What I hope the future will bring is an exploration of the reasons behind the restraints placed on democracy, and finally uncovering a solution that will remove those restraints.
Democracy does not trust power. Fascism places ALL of its trust in power. I'm not satisfied with either system. We need more knowledge, more wisdom, and we'll create something better.
Understand that Fascism is a COMPLAINT against Democracy... its not an enlightened form of anything.
Angie Gallant
12-03-2005, 10:22 PM
DESTRUCITY!!
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foogla
12-04-2005, 04:35 AM
Rightcklick, save as. Thanks.
MatthewF
12-04-2005, 04:48 AM
Angie wins.
Flowers
12-04-2005, 12:09 PM
Why must I post banal soliloquies? You ask me why I have to jump from topic to topic without proper transitions, why I have to interpret everything as an existential crisis. Where are my cigarettes? Has anyone finished Soul Calibur 3's strategy mode?
You ask me why post auctions of erotic pottery. You summon forth the spectre of J. Danforth Quayle. NC-17 films on the arthouse circuit merely means the world is starting to agree with me...
You ask me why I touch myself when I think about ducks... I have taken on this burden of eroticising the Midwest, which Pretzel stands are a part of, and you sit there with your standoffish claims that "everybody knows I have Down's Syndrome" specialolympics, my turn to push the button, your donkey-fondling, and you then wonder why Dance Dance Revolution has to be IMPOSED on you. The Quad City DJ's can claim the name, they've got a brand new dance come on and ride that train.
And still you resist my Duke's of Hazzard slash fiction. You're afraid of a reemergence of Beanie Baby collecting, and this fear only grows in the gelatin like emotional morass of your failure to appreciate my Oscar Wilde quotes. You have nothing to offer in trade for One Red Paperclip (http://oneredpaperclip.blogspot.com), and can only exist to grind your shit on the dance floor, to do a freelance for the funk. "You can't stop the Shining!" Salivations... It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold us Back.
Yes, I have considered paying for access to a porn site. This subscription will end within twenty-four hours and recur at the monthly rate of $39.99 until cancelled. Young MC wrote Tone Loc's hit, "Wild Thing."
Pain? Clubber Lang predicts pain, does he not? Your pain as the result of a urinary tract infection proves you need to drink more cranberry juice, which is made in my area. The more pain you have, the more cranberry juice you should probably be drinking. If it doesn't clear up after a couple of days, I would call a doctor...Dr. Love.
I am soapy. I see a few good men among you, but you cannot handle the truth, they are soapy too. You're only focused on my third nipple, you did not notice Maurice Sendak wrote other books. I'm not even sure whether cutting the mustard is something you want me to do... I prefer squeezable. You speak words of resistance... if I was in a frat, would that make it hotter?
Your shoelace is untied. "Conservative" men, men who have hands bigger than their faces and cancer. Someone wrote gullible on the ceilling.
Dance the Night Away. Do what thou wilt. With that phrase, you can identify most people who were dorks in high school. Your french braids hold well, but she will quit the volleyball team eventually.
Villachez... ha. Villachez was a silly man, little but full of but fantasy and charisma. That the show went to shit when he left shows just how pathetic your world is.
Next time, wear something red.
Bill Hiles
12-05-2005, 01:58 PM
Pain? Pain is every element of rebirth, is it not? Your pain as the result of me proves my ascendence. The more pain you have, the more glory to me and ultimately to you. It is not cruelty that causes me to hurt you... its love.
"To love is to suffer. To avoid suffering one must not love. But then one suffers from not loving. Therefore, to love is to suffer; not to love is to suffer; to suffer is to suffer. To be happy is to love. To be happy, then, is to suffer, but suffering makes one unhappy. Therefore, to be unhappy, one must love or love to suffer or suffer from too much happiness. I hope you're getting this down."
Rimbo
12-06-2005, 04:44 PM
I have no idea what this thread is about.
I mean, not just Koontz's post. I have no idea what any of y'all are talking about.
Glenn
12-07-2005, 10:01 AM
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GIS for Koontz
Brian Koontz
12-07-2005, 11:07 PM
I have no idea what this thread is about.
I mean, not just Koontz's post. I have no idea what any of y'all are talking about.
Most of the responses were trolls... usually a safe assumption.
My post was a clarification of Fascism in current culture.
Fascism is poorly understood today, and its creating problems because among other things, people fear what they don't understand. Fascism is a boogeyman when it really should just be seen as another political/cultural system.
Fascism in many ways is an attack on Christianity... it emerged out of "death of God" and hatred for Christian culture. As such, it worships strength, power, etc... its sort of a bastardization of Roman culture. One of the reasons Fascism has had as much success as its had is the power void left from the decline of Christianity. Fascism is seen as an opponent of Christianity, thus pulling political favor from people who support that.
While Christian culture focuses on "brotherhood of man", Fascism supports "brotherhood of the strong", where the strong band together for self-preservation (an irony apparently lost on them) and immunization from the weak.
The fun thing about Fascism though, is that since its goal is the destruction of Christian culture, it doesn't really feel the need to define itself in any other way. Kind of a "death to Christianity, bring back Roman values, call it a day". One fundamental weakness of Fascism is that no Fascist living today has shown any clear indication that they understand what Roman values *are*, but that's beside the point because unlike Roman values that sought to expand themselves for Rome (which meant something), Fascists merely mean to expand themselves for nothing in particular (or to remove Christianity).
Also, this makes the Neocon/Fundamentalist alliance interesting, since you'd think these two groups would be sworn enemies (in association with the Fascism vs. Christianity theme). What happened is that Fundamentalists in the US are so afraid of Liberals/decay of Christianity that they have given up in thinking of God being relevant to culture, and are desperate for anything to regain that relevance... Fascists as servitors of power are the best suited at finding weak elements to dominate and serve their needs. The great downfall of Rome after all is attraction to the weak, and Fascism follows in those footsteps to the tee. The strong need the weak just as much as vice versa.
Its the "true believers", the hopeful Christians, that logically would be against the Neocons most vehemently, but there are too few of them left to make a political difference.
If anything, the recent Neocon antics show just how corrupt, just how hopeless, Christianity stands today. That they would sell out to their sworn enemies is as low as a human being can go.
This illustration, logically enough, supports the Neocon position (in the long term). Christianity is being broken down.
So the Neocon idea is to cannibalize the Christians politically, using that very strange alliance to overcome the Liberal/Rationalist/Secularist position.
Its the old idea... create a war which dominates culture, and define everything in terms of that war. The passive yet brilliant way to overcome your enemy is to define what doesn't want to fight you in terms of your ally or enemy. Draw him into a war by redefining his identity.
Think about the Rationalist position. Its not that dissimilar from Christianity, and in fact is based on that. Brotherhood of man, love of diversity, society of law and order, cosmopolitan, open-minded. Its like a pleasant mix of the best elements from Christianity and Science.
So then you have the Fascists, whose power base is Anti-Christianity and various radical progressive anti-rational elements. Why bother ATTACKING Christianity, what Fascism itself sees as a dying breed? Man... gotta raise the stakes! So use Christianity to strike at a greater target... Secularism itself.
Take a cold, very cold look at culture today. Compare it to culture 40 years ago, 50 years ago. Secularism isn't doing so well. Anti-rational stocks are HOT, so to speak.
The "hipsters"... you might want to ask what exactly they are so eager to leave... you might not like the place they're going.
Secularism is in good shape, don't get me wrong. That the Fascists knew they've have to bring in Christianity just to take a *shot* at it should tell you that.
But arrogance about Secularism won't help, and growing fascination with anti-rational positions really won't help.
At some point you'll have to draw the line, you won't be able to play this identity game where you kinda like Secularism but kinda like anti-Secularism. This game has big consequences.
Midnight Son
12-08-2005, 03:49 AM
Prime Rib is the best!
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