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Tyjenks
07-11-2002, 10:24 AM
So, at least someone has some sense in this world that is in power. Tony Blair wants to allow people with a bit 'o weed at home or on their person to have at it. This way focus can be switched, rightfully in my opinion, to harder, more dangerous drugs: Heroin, Crack, et.al.
Plainly put, if Cigarettes and Alcohol are legal, I do not see why any sane person cannot reason that a little pot smoking is certainly not worse and, in most cases, not nearly as dangerous.
People who still believe that marijuana is this great evil drug are the same one's that believe Reefer Madness is the God's honest truth. They are simply uninformed and rather by choice or having blinders on are ignorant.
As for it being a gateway drug, anything done or used to excess is going to lead to disaster and lead to more severe abuses.
Met_K
07-11-2002, 10:28 AM
I'm waiting for the day when China overshadows America into being a past superpower. Governments always tend to wake the fuck up and do the right thing when that happens. Generally.
Or, I'm waiting for the day when America actually has sense and votes someone with some balls, some brains, and some real care for the people into office. It won't happen, since most Americans are fucking morons who should be launched off Earth on top of a giant ICBM, but hey. I can dream.
balut
07-11-2002, 10:39 AM
Or, I'm waiting for the day when America actually has sense and votes someone with some balls, some brains, and some real care for the people into office. It won't happen, since most Americans are fucking morons who should be launched off Earth on top of a giant ICBM, but hey. I can dream.
Why qualify that as simply Americans? Most people everywhere are morons that should be launched into the sun for the enjoyment of, well, me.
- Balut
Tyjenks
07-11-2002, 10:44 AM
Or, I'm waiting for the day when America actually has sense and votes someone with some balls, some brains, and some real care for the people into office.
The old cliche that "people who would be perfect for the job would never run" will hold true forever.
Alan Au
07-11-2002, 01:42 PM
I suspect it's because the people who are actually smart know that the presidency is actually a pretty unpleasant job. I just wish that the administration would at least pretend to care about my interests. Bah, who am I kidding... :roll:
- Alan
Tyjenks
07-11-2002, 02:01 PM
Since no one wants to talk about weed, I am going to assume that everyone agrees with me that it should be legalized and will endorse me as "The Pot President" in the next election.
That will not be my only concern.....I forget what else I was going to be "for", though. Let me eat and sleep for the next 2 days and I will get back to you.
Aszurom
07-11-2002, 04:00 PM
Doesn't Nevada currently have a legalization issue on the ballot? I heard something on the radio. It could become our little Amsterdam in the desert. Heck, it's legal to tag hoes there... why not toke up beforehand?
And ya know, there are plenty of LEGAL pot alternatives. I've fiddled with a few, and they ain't too bad. I'm subject to random stupidity testing so I can't play with the real-deal anymore, but there's some legal nature out there that still packs a pleasant glow.
Sparky
07-11-2002, 04:24 PM
Heck, it's legal to tag hoes there...
Well, I should certainly hope so! There is nothing worse than getting one's beloved gardening implements confused with those of your neighbors. I lost two rakes (one with sentimental value, as it previously belonged to a very eccentric uncle) a Garden Weasel, and a lawn edger before I got wise. I now mark all my tools with my Social Security number or a wacky "Garbage Pail Kids" sticker. Haven't lost a hoe since.
voltaic
07-12-2002, 10:03 AM
There's already a candidate every election who runs a ballot including full legalization of marijuana and pardons to all people who are currently serving time for doing so-called "naughty things" with it. It's called the libertarian party.
http://www.lp.org/
Met_K
07-12-2002, 10:10 AM
It might help if libertarians weren't a bunch of old cooks who have the political ideology of a parrot sitting on a pirate's shoulder. I mean, for fuck's sake, if you're going to try and fuck the country blind, then at least be fore-front about it and don't try and hide. Legalizing marijuana is not going to make people vote for you if you're going to try and turn the country into the next Russia (figuratively speaking, see: fucked).
Tyjenks
07-12-2002, 10:17 AM
There's already a candidate every election who runs a ballot including full legalization of marijuana and pardons to all people who are currently serving time for doing so-called "naughty things" with it. It's called the libertarian party.
http://www.lp.org/
I have actually visited that site once or twice and love the idea of less, less, less government. I think Brown is their presidential candidate who runs. I guess I could just hit your link and verify that, but that would be too simple.
Semi-conservative, obnoxious radio talk show host Neal Boortz is a vocal libertatian, but has severe Republican leanings. I listen to him for entertainment purposes sometimes and he is the person who brought the party to my attention.
My vote will go to anyone who is not an incumbent this November and possibly some Libertarians. Unfortunately, it will take the Republicans and Democrats to come out in favor of legalization before it will happen nationwide here in the U.S.
Tyjenks
07-12-2002, 10:19 AM
It might help if libertarians weren't a bunch of old cooks
Are Julia Childs and Emeril Libertarians?
Jim F.
07-12-2002, 11:40 AM
I always thought the problem wasn't the local governments, but the Federal government. Some like even if Nevada legalizes pot, the Federal government can come after you on federal drug charges.
The Feds also have the power of the purse. They can say that, if Nevada legalizes drugs, that they will cut off all law enforcement funding and make the state pay 100% for it's local police forces.
I really hate when the Feds use the power of the purse to control what the states do. Really invades on one of the fundamental points of the forming of the U.S., and that's that each state has the right to make its own laws. While true, they are so reliant on the Federal cash that they can't afford to make a law without asking the president and congress for permission.
bgumm
07-12-2002, 12:09 PM
People who still believe that marijuana is this great evil drug are the same one's that believe Reefer Madness is the God's honest truth. They are simply uninformed and rather by choice or having blinders on are ignorant.
Reefer Madness. Great movie...
:twisted:
voltaic
07-13-2002, 09:55 AM
It might help if libertarians weren't a bunch of old cooks who have the political ideology of a parrot sitting on a pirate's shoulder. I mean, for fuck's sake, if you're going to try and fuck the country blind, then at least be fore-front about it and don't try and hide. Legalizing marijuana is not going to make people vote for you if you're going to try and turn the country into the next Russia (figuratively speaking, see: fucked).
I see lots of mud, I see no reasoning to back it. Funny how we'd discount a game review which read like the above but in politics, hey that's a sound, solid set of argumentation.
Met_K
07-13-2002, 10:01 AM
I see lots of mud, I see no reasoning to back it. Funny how we'd discount a game review which read like the above but in politics, hey that's a sound, solid set of argumentation.
You're from California. I'll leave my argument at that.
voltaic
07-13-2002, 10:07 AM
I see lots of mud, I see no reasoning to back it. Funny how we'd discount a game review which read like the above but in politics, hey that's a sound, solid set of argumentation.
You're from California. I'll leave my argument at that.
I moved here 10 months ago from Las Vegas, Nevada where I lived for 26 years and where I originally became a Libertarian 3 years ago. Ouch! Busted down again. Care to insert any marginally interesting political thought anytime soon?
Met_K
07-13-2002, 10:16 AM
I moved here 10 months ago from Las Vegas, Nevada where I lived for 26 years and where I originally became a Libertarian 3 years ago. Ouch! Busted down again. Care to insert any marginally interesting political thought anytime soon?
You're a Libertarian. Naturally, you don't get it.
And no, I don't. I don't have to insert any marginally interesting political thought any fucking time. I'm a troll. I have real conversation when I feel like it. On a topic I feel like having it on. Politics with you is not one of them.
Now, keep on replying. Thanks.
Tyjenks
07-13-2002, 10:21 AM
You're from California. I'll leave my argument at that.
I moved here 10 months ago from Las Vegas, Nevada where I lived for 26 years and where I originally became a Libertarian 3 years ago. Ouch! Busted down again. Care to insert any marginally interesting political thought anytime soon?
I wouldn't count on it. This one line is enough to discount the rest of his blatherings:
Legalizing marijuana is not going to make people vote for you if you're going to try and turn the country into the next Russia (figuratively speaking, see: fucked).
HUH? Wha? I must have missed the Russian, pinko, commie bastard plank in the Libertarian platform.
Jason McCullough
07-13-2002, 12:30 PM
You're from California. I'll leave my argument at that.
I moved here 10 months ago from Las Vegas, Nevada where I lived for 26 years and where I originally became a Libertarian 3 years ago. Ouch! Busted down again. Care to insert any marginally interesting political thought anytime soon?
I wouldn't count on it. This one line is enough to discount the rest of his blatherings:
Legalizing marijuana is not going to make people vote for you if you're going to try and turn the country into the next Russia (figuratively speaking, see: fucked).
HUH? Wha? I must have missed the Russian, pinko, commie bastard plank in the Libertarian platform.
I think he was referring to the seething mass of anarchy and crime that the remains of the USSR suffer from at the moment. Social libertarianism is fine and all, but economic libertarianism has some issues.
Mark Asher
07-13-2002, 02:48 PM
Until we all have our own little cabin in the woods so we can live apart from one another, Libertarianism is not going to work too well.
Tyjenks
07-13-2002, 03:26 PM
Agreed. I just cannot bring myself to vote for these same bags 'o hot air. I will throw a vote here and there and maybe someone will figure out how dissatisfied we are. I am not holding my breath, though.
Might as well vote for something that sounds nice as vote for the guy who will steal from me less.
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