Clone High: a GOOD show on MTV shock and horror???

[Captain Cookiepants]

Hard to believe, but this cartoon about a high school filled with clones of history's greatest people is actually funny!
Lots of historical in-jokes (Abe Lincoln wonders what fears are holding him back from running for student body president...while in front of a graphic mural of his last trip to a theater) and ALL the angst is JUST there to set up the next joke. No low-brow 'hey look how gross we can be' humor, and it's not a constant string of one liners. I know there've only been two episodes, but neither had any jokes that missed (my favorite is Ghengis Kahn wearing his 'Screw Tibet' T-shirt)
It's a quality show on MTV, look for it to be canceled next week.

[Brad Grenz]

Yeah, I saw an episode. Pretty damn funny.

[Jakub]

The show smacks of "whoah, this is too cool, better cancel it".

I actually got around to theorizing about why good shows get cancelled. The best that popped to mind is the Simpsons factor. If there's TV of that great caliber (no, I'm not talking the last 3 seasons), you actually become less inclined to watch any other TV, especially on the same station. Yes, for a while you'll watch the show before and show after, but eventually you nail that 9pm showing of Simpsons and nothing else.

A second reason was that if a show doesn't attract the lowest common denominator, it's not going to sell ads. The LCD might not be rich, but there are a lot of them, and TV is a mass-market medium. To advertise successfully, you need to hit LCDs. It's why soap operas and Frasier, where rich, snooty people are made fun of are popular. There are hundreds of millions who want to see the rich suffer. But only a tiny segment of even the rich population would want to watch the rich humiliate the poor. Do Bentleys and yachts really need advertisement? They're also the only things with a big enough markup so that it's worth advertising to a smaller market.... but of course there are so many better ways to reach that small market.

So, Clone High, by not being toilet humor, has endangered itself. It confuses the cretins and makes the rest of the TV lineup look bad.

[Tyjenks]

I guess this will teach me not to dismiss everything on MTV out of hand. It was on the other day and I had heard it might be good, but when I saw it finally on I flipped right on to the next channel.

[Jeff Green]

What time is this show on? I heard someone else raving about this too.
Give grandpa here a reason to turn on MTV.

[Sparky]

What time is this show on?
Someone get Grandpa a Tivo!

[Anders Hallin]

Am in process of downloading, though it is hella-slow.

[Captain Cookiepants]

Sorry Jeff, was bi-zay today. I believe the show will be on 10:30 tonight, but don't quote me since MTV is run by morons.

I agree Jakub; the majority of 'Nielsen Families' are lower income that don't mind the slight hassle for a few extra buck. The rest of us have to watch what they like because it's 'popular'. How many of us like 'Futurama'? Too smart. Canceled. 'MST3K'?, Ditto. Ditto. (Also honestly I never watched anything else on Sci-Fi)
They are programming for the lowest common denominator cause that's who's opinion they see. Given that though, I really can't explain how 'Family Guy' was canceled, maybe they didn't like being dumber that the 'young'un'.

[Jakub]

Family Guy was cancelled because of Christians.

... and mothers, parents, single parents, veterans, racial minorities, immigrants, deaf people, mute people, blind people, children's right advocacy groups... lots of people.

All of them with one giant pine tree up their collective ass.

[Anonymous]

It was cancelled because it wasn't funny.

I like dark and offensive humor. I like sarcasm. Family Guy, though, was just lame. Sarcastic jibber-jabber spat out by a collection of one-dimensional characters that no one could possibly care about. Good fucking riddance.

[GMicek]

It was cancelled because it wasn't funny.

Action! and Siffle & Ollie were a couple of great shows that got canned before their time.

By the way, if anyone cares I noticed that Clone High(or whatever it's called) is on at 1 and 1:30am PST tonight and again on Monday at like 5pm.

[Captain Cookiepants]

It was cancelled because it wasn't funny.

I like dark and offensive humor. I like sarcasm. Family Guy, though, was just lame. Sarcastic jibber-jabber spat out by a collection of one-dimensional characters that no one could possibly care about. Good fucking riddance.

Well excuse the fuck out of Family Guy for not having enough Tolkien references for you to mull over while you paint your nails black and listen to your Marilyn Manson Mr. Goth.
I happen to have found the show very funny:

'Hey want some gum?"
'Sure!'
'Haha! That was trick gum, now you're addicted to crack!'
'S-s-so cold..'

Nooooo not offensive humor at all, you know, unless you are, to quote Jakub: Family Guy was cancelled because of Christians.

... and mothers, parents, single parents, veterans, racial minorities, immigrants, deaf people, mute people, blind people, children's right advocacy groups... lots of people.

All of them with one giant pine tree up their collective ass.

The constant attempts on the life of the mother, the visit from Death himself, did...did you even WATCH the show, or did you just catch ten minutes of it between 'Insane Clown Posse' videos?

[Jakub]

The show was at its funniest early on, when it focused on Stewie and his take-over-the-world devices. The "man in the white suit" episode is a classic.

[Raife]

Action! and Siffle & Ollie were a couple of great shows that got canned before their time.

Siffle & Ollie was brilliant -- RIP.

MTV does occasionally come through with some cool shows.

[Tyjenks]

Damn, the Family Guy was funny.

Wayne Tosh = poo poo head

[voltaic]

...or did you just catch ten minutes of it between 'Insane Clown Posse' videos?

Now THIS is funny. One for Sparky to crochet into a rastafarian knit cap or something.

[dannimal]

I saw the first ep of Clone High, and I found myself torn between the following thoughts:

1) Joan of Arc is HOT (for a cartoon babe)
2) What determined who would and wouldn't end up similar to and different from their clone-parent? I mean, Gandhi decides to become a party animal, but Lincoln doesn't seem all that far off in terms of demeanor. Kennedy is still a skirt chasing party animal, but Joan of Arc is just your average teenage girl. Did nobody bother to educate Genghis Khan before he got to High School? I realize it's all for the benefit of the jokes, but it kept nagging at me as I watched.
3) I forgot the rest.

It was one of those things that I wouldn't go out of my way to watch, but would certainly flip to if I was going to have the TV on at the time it was on (I often work on the computer with the TV in the background).

[Brad Grenz]

It's funny how much really good comedic animation is going around right now. Clone High is great, but there's also great stuff on Comedy Central and the Cartoon Network as well. Comedy Central recently picked up a claymation show Gary and Mike, a show called Undergrads and reruns of Clerks. Those all air late a night. And of course there's Southpark as well.

The Cartoon Network, of course, has the Adult Swim line-up of great stuff as well. Futurama, Home Movie, Mission Hill, Harvey Birdman, Sealab 2021, Aqua Teen Hunger Force.

I just can't believe how much is out there right now.

[Captain Cookiepants]

I saw the first ep of Clone High, and I found myself torn between the following thoughts:

1) Joan of Arc is HOT (for a cartoon babe)
2) What determined who would and wouldn't end up similar to and different from their clone-parent? I mean, Gandhi decides to become a party animal, but Lincoln doesn't seem all that far off in terms of demeanor. Kennedy is still a skirt chasing party animal, but Joan of Arc is just your average teenage girl. Did nobody bother to educate Genghis Khan before he got to High School? I realize it's all for the benefit of the jokes, but it kept nagging at me as I watched.
3) I forgot the rest.

It was one of those things that I wouldn't go out of my way to watch, but would certainly flip to if I was going to have the TV on at the time it was on (I often work on the computer with the TV in the background).

1) You'll be happy to know that, while I was searching for show times, I discovered that there are ALREADY porn drawings up of the entire cast. After only two episodes.

2)I'm a big fan of 'nurture over nature', I think a person's personality is the result of his upbringing. Mental problems just exacerbate existing problems. But that's my view.
As for Kennedy, he's just overcompensating for his foster parents: 'You er ah, ever seen that show 'My Two Dads? It's like that...EXCEPT WAY GAYER!!'

3) Happens to me too my friend. At least I think it does.

I agree with you Brad, for some reason they're breaking out the cartoons, loved 'The Critic' and hope someone picks up 'Family Guy'. I think it started with the popularity of 'Adult Swim'.
Oh and you can go ahead and skip '3 South', the other cartoon on MTV, not funny in the least.