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07-02-2002, 03:47 PM
...yet another idea that is sure to spur on the Microsoft haters: http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,263367,00.asp
Nice that there's collusion between the virtual monopoly players, Intel and Microsoft, to impose this upon consumers. I'm sure it's for our own good though, heh
07-02-2002, 04:41 PM
Brilliant marketing, by the way, associating your security scheme's name with a statue that was supposed to be protecting a city, but was stolen. Then, of course, the city was sacked thanks to the Trojan Horse.
What is Microsoft trying to tell us?
07-02-2002, 06:45 PM
Oh yes, this is the suck:
"While Levy's article doesn't delve into the technical details of the proposed scheme, a careful reading suggests that Palladium is not so much about security for computer users as about the security of the income streams of Microsoft and large content providers. These companies will be empowered to lock up software and content, making it effectively "self destruct" unless you pay additional money (either "per view" or by subscription)."
Hard to warm up to that.
07-02-2002, 11:31 PM
Totally, watch the way they've spun things and tried to adapt concepts basically for the benefit of copyright holders, to make them seem good for the individual user as well. I'm pretty annoyed with the way MS/Intel/AMD/etc are playing ball with the RIAA/MPAA. They are infringing more and more on fair use rights every day and it seems that they're coming closer and closer to abolishing them completely. That is simply not OK. Hell, I had hundreds of dollars of CDs stolen out of my car a couple months back and couldn't afford to replace them because of the $500 insurance deductable. Luckyly I had MP3s of all the albums that I made legally with which to burn backup audio CDs. I don't bring originals with me in my car anymore. But if the RIAA has their way I wouldn't be able to do this. But I don't see them jumping up to replace my CDs. Frankly, I use to think that the "making a backup" line was pirate BS. But I was wrong, there are legitimate reasons to do such a thing.
07-03-2002, 12:07 AM
I don't care what Microsoft does to people who want to download or copy commercial media because I don't do that anyway. What little media I consume gets bought on physical CDs or DVDs and stays there. I've never seen a reason to litter my computer with that stuff.
However, if they do integrate such a device in an operating system they'd better offer a way to turn it off completely. If that prevents me from downloading/playing/copying commercial media files that I don't want anyway that would be fine with me. But I don't want some background processes constantly monitoring my data streams and gobbling up CPU time for encryption and decryption.
07-03-2002, 12:23 AM
If that prevents me from downloading/playing/ copying commercial media files that I don't want anyway that would be fine with me. But I don't want some background processes constantly monitoring my data streams and gobbling up CPU time for encryption and decryption.
They're getting AMD/INTEL, etc, to implement the scheme in hardware. It will not be something you can turn off. If MS tells you otherwise realise you are being lied to. And don't forget the back door they'll put in for the government.
They have already started. I think windows 98 will be the last microsoft OS I own.
You agree that in order to protect the integrity of content and software protected by digital rights management ('Secure Content'), Microsoft may provide security related updates to the OS Components that will be automatically downloaded onto your computer. These security related updates may disable your ability to copy and/or play Secure Content and use other software on your computer. If we provide such a security update, we will use reasonable efforts to post notices on a web site explaining the update.
That is exactly what I was looking for in the latest windows media player. The ability for a third party to deactivate software for me. I hope it can uninstall all of the spyware that Microsoft allows and promotes to be installed on systems.
I can't wait for Palladium, because beside the above, I have really been looking forward to disappearing email. That will be so valuable. Email that can't be read after a certain date - I imgaine they will disable ctrl-c and the print screen button when you view the mail as well.
Microsoft has purposefully created a giant privacy hole in IE by allowing helper apps to be silently installed and monitor your browsing and create popups. So now they want to come to the rescue?
Hooray, I'm for the other team.
07-03-2002, 07:54 AM
What is up with this idea of disappearing email? Why would anyone want this? I make email disappear all the time by deleting it, but it's my choice.
It's irritating. They're going to shoehorn all this in on the back of providing us with virus protection, and you know what? It probably won't protect us against computer viruses.
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