I can honestly say... (The Guilty Gear X2 #Reload Thread)

[Dave Long]

...I've never been more disappointed that a game was delayed than by the delay for over a week now of Guilty Gear X2 #Reload for Xbox. I want to fight on Live dammit! It didn't even make it in today when it should've been there. I gotta wait til tomorrow at least!

Something is really wrong with me. I better go lie down.

--Dave

[Dirt]

Uh... yeah.

[extarbags]

I do too. I'm hopefully going to get an Xbox soon. You won't be safe for long, Dave!

[Dave Long]

Excellent, extarbags! I wish GGX2#R had the virtual arcade room thing that DoA Ultimate will have because yourself, Mike and I could've had a good time smashing each others heads in that way. As it stands, we'll just have to take turns mauling each other a few matches at a time.

Greg Kasavin! You claimed you were ready for the fighting this fall. I'm calling you out! :)

--Dave

[extarbags]

Yeah, that virtual arcade room sounded super-cool.

All I hope is that Reload doesn't have lag. I'm hoping to get a box from my girlfriend for my birthday next month, but if Reload is even half as laggy as CvS 2 was... man, it's not even worth it.

I vote for making this the official thread for all things Guilty Gear.

[Dave Long]

From what I've read, GGXX is pretty good about the lag. The IGN first impression from last week indicated that it gets worse the farther you are from the person you're playing against, but for a lot of people it would be as good as sitting on the couch right next to them.

Since the three of us that have expressed interest in the game are from the Philly area, I suspect we're going to be ok. Playing against that big talker Kasavin could be tougher though. ;)

--Dave

[extarbags]

Oooooh I'm positively tittering with excitement!

Whom do you play as, Dave?

[Dave Long]

It's been awhile but I played I-No the most on PS2. I might just pick up a different character to learn for this version of the game. I fully expect to get trashed by you. :)

Well, I expect to get trashed until I've had the game for a little while anyway. ;)

--Dave

[Thomas Wilde]

My Jam style will drop all comers!

My gamertag's TvsWanderer.

[extarbags]

http://torchthebridge.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=67

http://www.gamecombos.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=828cadddaa2b539a588d77b5d30baa8 c&forumid=37

[extarbags]

Hey, apparently there's a fighting games tournament in Philly this December.

http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71501

Hmm... I wonder if I can be good enough by then to not get completely embarassed.

[Dave Long]

I have a feeling both Mike and I will join you at that tournament. Heck, even if we get stomped it'll be worth it to be there to see the top players.

Maybe we should go as a team in one of the 3 player team games?

--Dave

[extarbags]

A friend of mine is going too... between us, I'm sure we can come up with a three-man team.

[Dave Long]

Excellent. I'm going to try to box out the 5th of December so nothing gets scheduled that day and I'll be there.

--Dave

[extarbags]

But the tournament is on the fourth!

[Dave Long]

But the tournament is on the fourth!

Details, details. :)

I have kids dammit. They make my brain into mush!

--Dave

[extarbags]

According to a guy I know from another forum, Reload is.... too laggy to be playable on Live :(.

[Mike Cathcart]

According to a guy I know from another forum
I know a unicorn that thinks HL2 is out next week :P

I've heard that GGXX is pretty good on Live if you're not too far from the person you're playing against. You're not far from me so when you get a Live account you can kick my ass for making fun of your imaginary forum friend, OK? :D

[extarbags]

But I must wait for more reviews. If more people than not are saying it's laggy... well then I guess I'm not playing Fable :/.

[BDGE]

I just bought the game myself and played 2 matches online so far. The Optimatch search gave several possible opponents and I chose only the people with 'Excellent' as the connection rate.

Both matches were lag free and I may as well have been fighting someone on the couch next to me. Very impressive.

I will say I am not a fan of the Controller-S d-pad though, my thumbs were REALLY hurting after those 2 matches. Then again I was using Jam and her QC mid-air jet kick juggles will rub your fingerprint right off the skin regardless of the controller in use...

Too bad it seems we are forced to unlock the extra characters through unnecessarily tedious means once again ala PS2. Or hopefully not, I just didn't notice them in the selection unfrotunately except Robo-Ky.

[extarbags]

Kliff and Justice need to be unlocked again, Robo-Ky is now a standard character. He's completely different from the X2 version.

[fuzzyslug]

Guilty Gear now sits near my Xbox. Should we try to get a Live list together for opponents? I know I have trouble finding good Full Spectrum Warrior partners. It'd be great to rectify this with GG, especially given the number of evil 12 year olds who could kick my ass.

Cathcart, find me online. I'll give you more than ample opportunity to revenge your NFL 2k5 loss. I haven't played a 2d fighter in years (GG for the Dreamcast was likely the last one).

[Thomas Wilde]

It took me about twenty minutes to unlock Kliff in Survival Mode. I unlocked EX Jam, with her hcf + P fullscreen instant fireball, and cheated my way to glory.

If I hadn't had an unfortunate run-in with Black Slayer on level 99, I'd've unlocked Justice, too.

[extarbags]

You guys: please try it on Live and tell me if it lags. Seriously... this is a $200 game for me, so I have to be sure!

[fuzzyslug]

I played two separate people -- some random guy on Live and Cathcart -- and I ran into literally zero lag. It was like Cathcart was sitting in my living room. Hey, stop eating my chips.

In both cases, I played about 5 or 6 matches. They played wonderfully. Now, all I need to do is actually get good at the game.

[extarbags]

Ok fine. Screw those lag reports then, I guess... I still want an Xbox.

[BDGE]

Yea, I just spent a good hour playing random people online myself and it's been humming along quite nicely. Some folks on other forums are complaining about hiccups and delay issues, but I just haven't seen it.

Voice chat responds very well also, no drop-outs or cut-offs as I have witnessed.

[Dave Long]

I just got done playing. With Mike and another random guy, it was fine. No discernable lag. With a guy from Arizona, there was lag. It was bad enough that I took a few losses and called it quits with that one. So basically, if you play with people with the "Excellent" signal rating and/or those that live closer to you, it should be a-ok.

You've got at least three of us to fight against. :)

Also, figure that you can pick up other Live games for your Xbox if you get one. You'll probably want Street Fighter Anniversary Collection in January. Dead or Alive Ultimate might be fun too. And then there's the regular Live stuff too.

I'm happy I got the Xbox. Guilty Gear is just one more thing that it did right.

--Dave

[extarbags]

I was thinking about the SF collection. I'll probably pick it up.

DOA: Ultimate's arcade multiplayer mode is super-intriguing... the only problem is that the arcade game it simulates you standing around is Dead or Alive :/.

But ok, maybe it's a regional thing with the lag. Who knows. Anyway, it seems likely that it will be fine, plus I watched my friend playing Fable last night and it looks rad, so the Xbox is back on my want list.

[MrAngryFace]

20 dollars! HOLY SHIT

[MattKeil]

I'll be on, too, as soon as I can bloody find the game around here.

[Wholly Schmidt]

I broke down and picked it up, despite being horrible at the game. I put you on my friends list with this game in mind last night Dave Long, anyone else who wants to play, my gamertag is schmidt, and I'm in SC so at least being on the same coast we might get a decent connection. Worth trying at least.

[Dave Long]

Definitely Wholly... I added you to my friends list last night. I'm game to play with anyone from here when I'm on next. I might be able to get some time in later tonight after my NHL 2K5 game at 11 (provided that happens).

Feel free to send a friend invite if I don't have you yet and/or send me a game invite if you see me online. I was nagging Mike while he played fuzzyslug last night and Mike indicated he could see that while he was playing fuzzy.

--Dave

[extarbags]

My stick came today, so let me just let you guys know.

Playing with a stick is freaking hard as crap when you're used to a controller. Jesus Christ.

[Dave Long]

I just got back from a friend's place where we played fighters with the sticks all night. He's got one of these for the PC...

http://www.slikstik.com/detail.aspx?ID=9

It took me about twenty minutes to adjust but only because I spent a lot of time playing with a stick on the Neo Geo consoles I've owned. I also have a nice HORI stick for the PS/PS2.

Once you adjust though, you'll quickly find that d-pads just don't cut it. I was busting out moves left and right by the end of the night that are usually tough for me to do consistently on the d-pad.

--Dave

[Doug Erickson]

Sweet Lord, that stick's ***$589.00***. I thought my bloody $100 X-Arcade made ME hardcore -- thus, I am shamed!

[Dave Long]

It inspires awe in me every time I visit him. :)

He also has Armor Attack... the 1980 Cinematronics arcade game. That's worth at least $1000. I played for awhile tonight. That's still one great arcade game, especially co-op.

He's got a partially built driving set up too. Adjustable seat... the whole nine yards.

Anyway, that slikstik seems to be worth the dough if you're willing to invest that kind of money. :)

--Dave

[extarbags]

I just got back from a friend's place where we played fighters with the sticks all night. He's got one of these for the PC...

http://www.slikstik.com/detail.aspx?ID=9

It took me about twenty minutes to adjust but only because I spent a lot of time playing with a stick on the Neo Geo consoles I've owned. I also have a nice HORI stick for the PS/PS2.

The Hori Fighting Stick 2, perchance? That's the one I just got.

[extarbags]

Nah, if I was going all out I'd probably just get a nice custom stick from MAS (http://www.massystems.com/ProStick.html).

[dmiller]

I want in. I played 10 or so rounds last night with 'good' connections and it was pretty impressive. I didn't catch a hitch or anything.

My gamertag is foozmelon

[Thomas Wilde]

Are any of you folks still doing this? I finally got the game last week, and I've been merrily wiping the floor with a couple of friends.

[extarbags]

B to the izzump.

I haven't seen any of you guys on Live, ever, so what times/days are people available to play?

I tend to be around most weeknights from 12:30am-2am and most weekdays from, say, 10am to 2:30pm. And most Saturdays all day.

[fuzzyslug]

I'm usually around in the evenings, say around 10:00 pm - 12:00 am on the days I'm playing.

[Dave Long]

Hmmm... my Live time usually comes before midnight but I've been busy with reviews lately so it's been ESPN only. Sorry. :(

I can make some time to play though. Just try to hop on a little earlier if possible! :)

--Dave

[dmiller]

I just got done playing 5 minutes ago on single player. People are far too good at this game than I am. My game time will be more frequent in two weeks so I'll see alot more of you on.

I love this fighter. I'm glad I bought it.

[extarbags]

Hmmm... my Live time usually comes before midnight but I've been busy with reviews lately so it's been ESPN only. Sorry. :(

I can make some time to play though. Just try to hop on a little earlier if possible! :)

--Dave

But I work until midnight every night!

[Dave Long]

I'll make an exception then! :)

Tuesday or Wednesday night maybe?

--Dave

[extarbags]

Oh! Oh! Oh! Double Post!

[extarbags]

Oh! Oh! Oh!

Tuesday night sounds lovely! Tentatively! Something might come up, you never know!

[fuzzyslug]

I might be in Tues. evening as well. I'll look for you. Extrabags, what's your gamertag?

[extarbags]

It's extarbags.

extar, not extra, don't forget.

[extarbags]

I'll be on Live around 12:30, Dave, are we still on?

[Dave Long]

Yeah, I'm going to try to stay up.

--Dave

[extarbags]

Dave! I'm held up at work, I won't be home until closer to one. I'll check for you when I get there, but if you want to just go to bed, that's a-cool with me... sorry to do this to you :/.

[extarbags]

Wow, that was awesome. You've got a pretty decent Sol on your hands.

But why no tension moves?

[Dave Long]

Heh...because I haven't learned them! Believe it or not, that was only maybe the second time I played Sol competitively like that. I'm just a good fireball/dragon puncher and I can quickly put together the rest of the GG stuff to come up with something useful. My I-No needs a lot of work...or a joystick. Definitely easier to fly around and then rain down from above with the joytsticks. :-/

Great fun though! I had a blast. We'll do it again real soon. Awesome stuff. Your Venom totally owned me for awhile there. I thought I was going to go 0 fer the night!

--Dave

[MrAngryFace]

I need to get Live setup, my Baiken is pretty impressive. I moved on to venom tho, but against my friends I use baiken.

[Doug Erickson]

I should play on Live for some practice -- my Dizzy's still pretty eh, but I've got a decent Slayer, despite his dash nerf in #Reload.

DANDY STEP!

[MrAngryFace]

What do you think of Ex Slayer? Ex Baiken rocks pretty hard, At least she doesnt do the 3x tatami automatically now so she isnt as cheese. Or was I thinking of the gold version. Her new moves in Ex are so choice.

[extarbags]

I should play on Live for some practice -- my Dizzy's still pretty eh, but I've got a decent Slayer, despite his dash nerf in #Reload.

DANDY STEP!

If you're talking about bite infinite... dude. Slayer was so broken in X2 because of that.

[extarbags]

Heh...because I haven't learned them! Believe it or not, that was only maybe the second time I played Sol competitively like that. I'm just a good fireball/dragon puncher and I can quickly put together the rest of the GG stuff to come up with something useful. My I-No needs a lot of work...or a joystick. Definitely easier to fly around and then rain down from above with the joytsticks. :-/

Great fun though! I had a blast. We'll do it again real soon. Awesome stuff. Your Venom totally owned me for awhile there. I thought I was going to go 0 fer the night!

--Dave

Yeah, just so you know... that was the first time I ever played Testament :).

[Dave Long]

Heh... I kinda figured you were going to the third string with Testament. It really was a ton of fun. I wish you had the voice on. I enjoy chatting it up while I play. Bub and the rest of the sports league guys are well aware of that. :)

I need to spend some more time with I-No and learn those Tension moves for Sol. Your Venom is cool though. Love the cue ball moves. Those are awesome.

--Dave

[extarbags]

Heh... I kinda figured you were going to the third string with Testament. It really was a ton of fun. I wish you had the voice on. I enjoy chatting it up while I play. Bub and the rest of the sports league guys are well aware of that. :)

I need to spend some more time with I-No and learn those Tension moves for Sol. Your Venom is cool though. Love the cue ball moves. Those are awesome.

--Dave

Thanks, that's who I've been practicing.

I need to find a way to use the Live headset with my no-expansion-slot joystick adapter.

[Jim Preston]

I'm happy I got the Xbox.

--Dave

I never thought I'd read those words. Next you're going to tell me that DaveC is a great guy. :wink: