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Midnight Son
05-27-2004, 04:03 PM
http://news.ft.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=FT.com/StoryFT/FullStory&c=StoryFT&cid=1084907850631&p=1012571727085

According to a requisition last week by the Army Field Support Command, the service will need 300m to 500m more bullets a year for at least five years, or more than 1.5m a year for combat and training. And because the single army-owned, small-calibre ammunition factory in Lake City, Missouri, can produce only 1.2m bullets annually, the army is suddenly scrambling to get private defence contractors to help fill the gap.

The bullet problem has its roots in a Pentagon effort to restock its depleted war materiel reserve. But it has been exacerbated by the ongoing operations in Afghanistan and Iraq, where rearguard and supply units have been thinly-stretched throughout the countryside, occasionally without active duty combat soldiers to protect them.

The army's formal solicitation acknowledges that its current m anufacturing abilities have been all but exhausted. "Increasing military contingencies have created a situation where the capability to produce small calibre ammunition through conventional methods has been fully exercised," it said.

General Dynamics, the US defence contractor which submitted its proposed solution on Tuesday, said it had pulled together several small bullet suppliers - including Winchester, a unit of Olin Corporation; Israel Military Industries; and Canada's SNC Technologies - to meet the army's gap.

"We're using so much ammunition in Iraq there isn't enough capacity around," said Eric Hugel, a defence industry analyst at Sephens Inc. "They have to go internationally."

Israeli bullets in Iraq? I'm sure that'll be a hit!

Tim Partlett
05-27-2004, 04:39 PM
Maybe they could coat the bullets in pork fat?

Brandon Clements
05-27-2004, 06:27 PM
Hey, my parents met in an Army muntions factory! (Lone Star AAP, made 105mm shells, tank rounds, and grenades in the 60's)

And yeah, from a PR perspective, using Israeli bullets ain't going to win many friends over there. I do have to say that the Desert Eagle is one mean pistol, though.

Bullhajj
05-27-2004, 08:19 PM
I do have to say that the Desert Eagle is one mean pistol, though.

Unless you're playing Far Cry. Then it's just a crappy weapon, slightly better than the machete.

shift6
05-27-2004, 09:01 PM
Maybe they could coat the bullets in pork fat?
Worked for Pershing.

Ben
05-28-2004, 09:11 AM
What's the story here again? I don't think anyone is going to care what ammunition producer we award a bullet contract too.

Midnight Son
05-28-2004, 09:30 AM
Ok, Ben, I splain it to you: Due to sucky planning on the part of the know-it-all civilians in the Pentagon, we are facing a bullet shortage. Got it?

Derek Meister
05-28-2004, 09:31 AM
Quick question from someone who doesn't know the industry enough: are there other US bullet manufacturers who might be able to produce that ammo? Five years seems just long enough for another US company, provided there is on, to expand enough to be given such a contract.

Midnight Son
05-28-2004, 09:36 AM
We could get Walmart to give up their stock.... :lol:

Derek Meister
05-28-2004, 09:44 AM
As I said, I have no knowledge of the American ammunition industry, but I would hope every effort went into creating more work here, rather than overseas.

CindySue22
05-28-2004, 10:32 AM
What is this going to do to varmit hunting? .223 is a popular round for that.

(Or was back when I enjoyed killing small animals for fun.)

Ben
05-28-2004, 11:56 AM
Midnight- Except we aren't facing a bullet shortage, because we bought some more. That's how things work. When you need stuff, you buy stuff.

Midnight Son
05-28-2004, 12:31 PM
What's the use of conversing with you, Ben?

Jason McCullough
05-28-2004, 02:42 PM
Midnight- Except we aren't facing a bullet shortage, because we bought some more. That's how things work. When you need stuff, you buy stuff.

Yes, but like the Humvee armor problem, lack of modern bulletproof vests, and so on, the Army was caught napping.

I don't think it's that big of a deal; for some goddamn reason this happens in every war the US has. It's still depressing, though.

Anaxagoras
05-28-2004, 02:43 PM
Jason, they were dozing, not napping. Napping has such an... unpleasant ring to it.